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Mara's Crew
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:48 pm
by Countertrey
Was apparently working the game in Baltimore today... fortunately, they did a crappy job.
Can someone explain HOW the officials can conceivably justify reversing that touchdown????
Can someone explain that ludicrous unneccessary roughness call on Reed????
Re: Mara's Crew
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:54 am
by Redskin in Canada
Countertrey wrote:Was apparently working the game in Baltimore today... fortunately, they did a crappy job.
Can someone explain HOW the officials can conceivably justify reversing that touchdown????
Can someone explain that ludicrous unneccessary roughness call on Reed????
AGREED. Worst officiating by regular refs this week.
And Godahell may still fine Reed before the end of the week. Watch my words.

Re: Mara's Crew
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:47 pm
by 1niksder
Countertrey wrote:Was apparently working the game in Baltimore today... fortunately, they did a crappy job.
Can someone explain HOW the officials can conceivably justify reversing that touchdown????
Can someone explain that ludicrous unneccessary roughness call on Reed????
You already the know the answer... it's the same way you punish your rivals for circumventing the Salary Cap in a un-capped year.

Re: Mara's Crew
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:48 pm
by Countertrey
1niksder wrote:Countertrey wrote:Was apparently working the game in Baltimore today... fortunately, they did a crappy job.
Can someone explain HOW the officials can conceivably justify reversing that touchdown????
Can someone explain that ludicrous unneccessary roughness call on Reed????
You already the know the answer... it's the same way you punish your rivals for circumventing the Salary Cap in a un-capped year.

Perhaps true... but the FACT is, Ed Reed's hit was both legal and clean. You want to make an example of him, you wait until he does something that's actually prohibited by candy azzed rule. I hated seeing Cruz shaken up, as I think he is a class act, but come on.
That Touchdown was a score as clear as day... not down until well into the EZ, and clearly in bounds. It required some significant manipulation of the facts to make that call.
Re: Mara's Crew
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:14 pm
by DarthMonk
Countertrey wrote:1niksder wrote:Countertrey wrote:Was apparently working the game in Baltimore today... fortunately, they did a crappy job.
Can someone explain HOW the officials can conceivably justify reversing that touchdown????
Can someone explain that ludicrous unneccessary roughness call on Reed????
You already the know the answer... it's the same way you punish your rivals for circumventing the Salary Cap in a un-capped year.

Perhaps true... but the FACT is, Ed Reed's hit was both legal and clean. You want to make an example of him, you wait until he does something that's actually prohibited by candy azzed rule. I hated seeing Cruz shaken up, as I think he is a class act, but come on.
That Touchdown was a score as clear as day... not down until well into the EZ, and clearly in bounds. It required some significant manipulation of the facts to make that call.
Since going to the ground was integral to the catch he had to maintain control upon impact regardless. You may not like the rule but the no-catch = no TD call was correct.
LOOSE BALL
Article 3
A Loose Ball is a live ball that is not in player possession, i.e., any kick,
pass, or fumble. A loose ball
that has not yet struck the ground is In Flight. A loose ball (either during or after flight) is considered in
possession of team (offense) whose player kicked, passed, or fumbled. It ends when a player secures
possession or when the down ends if that is before such possession. (For exception, see 9-5-1-Exc. 3).
... then ...
PLAYER POSSESSION
Article 7 A player is in possession when he is in firm grip and control of the ball inbounds (See 3-2-3).
To gain possession of a loose ball (3-2-3) that has been caught, intercepted, or recovered, a player must have
complete control of the ball and have both feet or any other part of his body, other than his hands,
completely on the ground inbounds, and maintain control of the ball long enough to perform any act
common to the game. If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part
of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.
This rule applies in the field of play and in the end zone.
The terms catch, intercept, recover, advance, and fumble denote player possession (as distinguished from
touching or muffing).
... and finally ...
Note 1: A player who goes to the ground in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball (with
or without contact by an opponent) must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting
the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches
the ground before he regains control, there is no possession. If he regains control prior to the ball touching
the ground, it is a catch, interception, or recovery.
I have seen many coaches and announcers display ignorance of this rule. The refs enforced this rule properly yesterday in the end zone ruling against the Ravens.
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/pu ... e_Book.pdf
Even after Moss' toe-dragging TD yesterday against the Eags the ref correctly made sure he maintained control through impact with the ground long after going out of bounds. A dozen steps in bounds can be involved if a guy is stumbling as part of the catch attempt.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:38 pm
by SkinnDeep
Such bs. I agree.
Re: Mara's Crew
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:18 am
by Deadskins
DarthMonk wrote:Even after Moss' toe-dragging TD yesterday against the Eags the ref correctly made sure he maintained control through impact with the ground long after going out of bounds
Moss never went down. What are you talking about?
Re: Mara's Crew
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:45 am
by DarthMonk
Deadskins wrote:DarthMonk wrote:Even after Moss' toe-dragging TD yesterday against the Eags the ref correctly made sure he maintained control through impact with the ground long after going out of bounds
Moss never went down. What are you talking about?
He stumbled and the ref was watching to make sure. The ref did not simply immediately throw his arms up. That's my point. 2 feet (etc.) plus in the endzone does not automatically equal TD, that's all.
Up early. Merry Christmas.
Re: Mara's Crew
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:10 am
by Redskin in Canada
Redskin in Canada wrote:Countertrey wrote:Was apparently working the game in Baltimore today... fortunately, they did a crappy job.
Can someone explain HOW the officials can conceivably justify reversing that touchdown????
Can someone explain that ludicrous unneccessary roughness call on Reed????
AGREED. Worst officiating by regular refs this week.
And Godahell may still fine Reed before the end of the week. Watch my words.

As I predicted:
Ed Reed fined $55K by NFL for illegal hit on Victor CruzReed hasn't been thrilled with the way the NFL has ruled on his hits. Cruz said after the game that he believed the hit was legal.
At least it didn't draw another suspension.
No kidding.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:12 am
by Irn-Bru
Unbelievable.
Or, that's what I would say under ordinary circumstances. This was pretty much predictable. The Mara/Goodell alliance is too much to take.
Re: Mara's Crew
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:13 am
by Irn-Bru
Redskin in Canada wrote:Reed hasn't been thrilled with the way the NFL has ruled on his hits. Cruz said after the game that he believed the hit was legal.
At least it didn't draw another suspension.
No kidding.

I bet Mara could be quoted as saying Reed is "lucky" he didn't get the suspension. These guys are drunk on power.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:11 am
by yupchagee
Does anybody know what Mara has on Badell? Pictures?
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:35 pm
by Irn-Bru
yupchagee wrote:Does anybody know what Mara has on Badell? Pictures?
He's his boss.
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:45 pm
by Deadskins
yupchagee wrote:Does anybody know what Mara has on Badell? Pictures?
A strap-on?
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:51 pm
by ACW
Deadskins wrote:yupchagee wrote:Does anybody know what Mara has on Badell? Pictures?
A strap-on?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:12 am
by 1niksder
Link
NFC Wild Card: Seahawks at Redskins, 4:30 p.m. (Fox)
Pete Morelli is the referee, who is in his 16th year and 11th as referee. This is his 12th postseason assignment (6 Wild Card Playoffs, 4 Divisional Playoffs, and 2 Conference Championships).
Yr. Crew College Occupation
R 135 Pete Morelli 16 St Mary’s high school principal
U 71 Ruben Fowler 7 Leavy Huston-Tillotson retired firefighter
HL 8 Dana McKenzie 5 Morelli Toledo claims adjuster
LJ 9 Mark Perlman 12 Leavy Salem teacher
FJ 89 Jon Lucivansky 4 Morelli Minnesota high school associate principal
SJ 97 Tom Hill 14 Winter Carson Newman teacher
BJ 133 Steve Freeman 12 Triplette Mississippi State custom home builder
Alternates: Jeff Triplette (backfield), Adrian Hill (linesman), Dave Wyant (deep)
Replay official: Tommy Moore
Replay assistant: Bud Alexander
Supervisor: Neely Dunn
Observer: Jim Duke
All three worked the game that Dana McKenzie said DeAngelo Hall threatened to kill him.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:42 am
by Deadskins
1niksder wrote:LinkNFC Wild Card: Seahawks at Redskins, 4:30 p.m. (Fox)
Pete Morelli is the referee, who is in his 16th year and 11th as referee. This is his 12th postseason assignment (6 Wild Card Playoffs, 4 Divisional Playoffs, and 2 Conference Championships).
Yr. Crew College Occupation
R 135 Pete Morelli 16 St Mary’s high school principal
U 71 Ruben Fowler 7 Leavy Huston-Tillotson retired firefighter
HL 8 Dana McKenzie 5 Morelli Toledo claims adjuster
LJ 9 Mark Perlman 12 Leavy Salem teacher
FJ 89 Jon Lucivansky 4 Morelli Minnesota high school associate principal
SJ 97 Tom Hill 14 Winter Carson Newman teacher
BJ 133 Steve Freeman 12 Triplette Mississippi State custom home builder
Alternates: Jeff Triplette (backfield), Adrian Hill (linesman), Dave Wyant (deep)
Replay official: Tommy Moore
Replay assistant: Bud Alexander
Supervisor: Neely Dunn
Observer: Jim Duke
All three worked the game that Dana McKenzie said DeAngelo Hall threatened to kill him.

You just know that Mara will make us beat both Seattle and the refs. I just find it unbelievable that the NFL would assign Dana to this game. They removed a replacement ref because of an assumed bias. I don't see how this is any different. We need to start a tweet campaign to get him removed.
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:45 am
by 1niksder
Deadskins wrote:You just know that Mara will make us beat both Seattle and the refs. I just find it unbelievable that the NFL would assign Dana to this game. They removed a replacement ref because of an assumed bias. I don't see how this is any different. We need to start a tweet campaign to get him removed.
Conflict avertedIt appears that DeAngelo Hall's favorite ref won't work Sunday's Redskins playoff game after all.
Dana McKenzie, who was involved in a confrontation with Hall during the Redskins' 27-12 loss at Pittsburgh on Oct. 28, had been assigned to the Seahawks-Redskins game, according to The Free Lance-Star.
But now he won't, although the others in that officiating crew still will work the game, The Free Lance-Star said. McKenzie will handle Colts-Ravens in Baltimore instead.
Back in October, Hall was ejected from the game and later fined $30,000. The altercation began because the former Deep Creek and Virginia Tech standout complained after a play in which there was a lot of contact between himself and Pittsburgh receiver Emmanuel Sanders.
....
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:32 pm
by DarthMonk
I have not rewatched the game yet, I was a little buzzed when I watched it live, and I generally do not like to blame refs.
Having said all that it seemed like we got abused. I feel like I saw Garcon get thrown to the ground at least twice by his facemask right in front of a ref with no call. I'm sure I saw Moss get tackled clearly before a ball hit him in the hands right in front of a ref. When teams realize they can do stuff like that they keep doing it. I also remember a drive being extended because Hall chucked a guy at the line of scrimmage.
Ultimately, a healthy Griff crushes them anyway but these seemed like horrible calls/non-calls.
Anyone?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:48 pm
by langleyparkjoe
DarthMonk wrote:I have not rewatched the game yet, I was a little buzzed when I watched it live, and I generally do not like to blame refs.
Having said all that it seemed like we got abused. I feel like I saw Garcon get thrown to the ground at least twice by his facemask right in front of a ref with no call. I'm sure I saw Moss get tackled clearly before a ball hit him in the hands right in front of a ref. When teams realize they can do stuff like that they keep doing it. I also remember a drive being extended because Hall chucked a guy at the line of scrimmage.
Ultimately, a healthy Griff crushes them anyway but these seemed like horrible calls/non-calls.
Anyone?
That's really one of the perks of NOT going to the game as you get to see so many things on TV that we can't while there. Plus the wife and I were so a taaaaaaaaaaaad-bit intoxicated so you already know how that worked out Darth.
Of course a smart person like myself didn't even think of recording it.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:44 pm
by Deadskins
DarthMonk wrote:I have not rewatched the game yet, I was a little buzzed when I watched it live, and I generally do not like to blame refs.
Having said all that it seemed like we got abused. I feel like I saw Garcon get thrown to the ground at least twice by his facemask right in front of a ref with no call. I'm sure I saw Moss get tackled clearly before a ball hit him in the hands right in front of a ref. When teams realize they can do stuff like that they keep doing it. I also remember a drive being extended because Hall chucked a guy at the line of scrimmage.
Ultimately, a healthy Griff crushes them anyway but these seemed like horrible calls/non-calls.
Anyone?
There were dozens of non-calls to help the Shehawks. I knew we would have to beat both Seattle and the refs. Unfortunately, that's hard to do when your QB is gimpy and the OC takes the football out of your RB's hands. RG3's INT should have been PI. The CB tackled Garcon, and the safety was able to make an easy play on the ball underneath.