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I'm not sure I want to post this, but this was on First Take this morning.

http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2012-art ... iance.html

Haters gon hate....!!!

Everyone is FREE to live their lives according to their wishes (minus hurting, killing, slaying others).

LEAVE RGIII alone in regards to his choices.............. come on man!!!

Caught this on ESPN while I was eating lunch today, really couldn't believe the discussion.

I think this stuff is a lot more important to people of Rob Parker's generation than it is to young guys like RGIII. Probably a good thing. Hopefully ten years from now, you'll never hear the phrase "black quarterback" again.

I was hoping it was a joke but.....

remember the question: "How long have you been a black quarterback" as asked of Doug Williams?

Snopes says this report was FALSE............ whatev. I don't know what to believe on this one.

I think he. . .

I'm not sur. . .

what?

That is proof that stupidity does not discriminate. That is the single most ignorant, dumb, and racist thing anyone can say regardless of race.

Rob Parker--you sir are an idiot.

Good thing I stopped watching ESPN months ago (besides MNF). Bunch of idiots

If ESPN were to be consistent with how they deal with these types of situations created by their employees, Rob Parker will be fired from ESPN by the end of the week.

just......wow!!!

Fire this NOW!! Does he realize that he just created a scenario where Stephen A. Smith was a voice of reason in one, quietly spoken sentence at the end.


STEPHEN A. SMITH!!!!

That is the most racist, moronic, short sighted, conceited, and calculated thing I've heard in a while.

Well I did call ESPN after Skip Bayless said that white fans would turn on RGIII at some point and their spokesmen that I talked to said their guys were on the air to say controversial things. I don't really watch ESPN except for live events. I read about this elsewhere and that's how I found out about it.

The Hogster wrote:That is proof that stupidity does not discriminate. That is the single most ignorant, dumb, and racist thing anyone can say regardless of race.

Rob Parker--you sir are an idiot.

Thank you. Jimmy the Greek's career disappeared the instant such racist crap spewed from his mouth... frankly, this is far worse, as it is personal.

ESPN needs to step up. Racism is racism.

tribeofjudah wrote:remember the question: "How long have you been a black quarterback" as asked of Doug Williams?

Snopes says this report was FALSE............ whatev. I don't know what to believe on this one.

Seriously? Did you actually watch the clip?

Countertrey wrote:

tribeofjudah wrote:remember the question: "How long have you been a black quarterback" as asked of Doug Williams?

Snopes says this report was FALSE............ whatev. I don't know what to believe on this one.

Seriously? Did you actually watch the clip?

yup, many times with my own ears....I thought snopes was a reliable source, but they seem to have an angle....hahaha

It's par for the course. The sports world has been so desperate to find a counter-point to RGIII's greatness; a way to try to tear him down or "take him down a peg" that this comes as no surprise to me.

They've tried the tired old "he runs a gimmicky college offense" thing. Some went so far as to say that NFL defenses would figure him out by the second half of the season. Well, here we are and RGIII and his gimmicky offense have put up 30+ points in three of their last four games.

They have routinely questioned his toughness. They treat every hit he takes like he's some delicate flower. I have never seen them show so much concern for a QB's safety as a general theme. I mean, if the guy has been sacked 7-8 times in a game or is already hurt maybe, but with RGIII it's been since game 1 and before, after and during every game. I've tried to avoid ESPN just because I don't feel like hearing the "we-told-you-so" chorus.

Now this? He's not "black enough"? And with Skip Bayless right there on the panel? The man who accused us of being racists and secretly wanting Kirk Cousins to be QB because he's white?

I loved Bayless' contribution to the conversation "we'll, did you see his hair?" (Or whatever he said)

It's like a white racist and a black racist both arguing why RGIII doesn't belong in their camp.

"Oh he's not black enough. He's got a white fianceė"

"Yeah, but he's got dreads, that's not a white hairstyle"

"Yeah, but I think he voted republican"

Ridiculous...

Countertrey wrote:

The Hogster wrote:That is proof that stupidity does not discriminate. That is the single most ignorant, dumb, and racist thing anyone can say regardless of race.

Rob Parker--you sir are an idiot.

Thank you. Jimmy the Greek's career disappeared the instant such racist crap spewed from his mouth... frankly, this is far worse, as it is personal.

ESPN needs to step up. Racism is racism.

Within weeks of that Jimmy The Greek incident, NBC News did a primetime feature that essentially took his position. Not defending him at all here, I just find the irony distasteful.

ESPN should fire this guy. Period. They ran Rush Limbaugh out of there for saying that Donovan McNabb didn't work hard enough and that the reason he was thought so highly of was that liberal reporters wanted him to do well. Well, once he got here we saw what his work ethic was like. The VIkings saw the same thing. If ESPN will run Limbaugh off for something that was essentially accurate, they should have kicked this guy out before the end of the workday.

Burgundy&Wha? wrote:They ran Rush Limbaugh out of there for saying that Donovan McNabb didn't work hard enough and that the reason he was thought so highly of was that liberal reporters wanted him to do well.

Come on now, that's not *exactly* what Rush said. (I'm not even sure what you're talking about regarding Rush and McNabb's work ethic.) What he said was McNabb wasn't that good and the "liberal media' was propping him because they wanted to see a black QB do well. You know, affirmative action at the NFL level. Here's the EXACT statement that got him canned:

"I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there's a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."

That was a stupid hire from the jump and little surprise that fat idiot said something stupid and offensive.

tribeofjudah wrote:remember the question: "How long have you been a black quarterback" as asked of Doug Williams?

Urban myth. Never happened.

Deadskins wrote:

tribeofjudah wrote:remember the question: "How long have you been a black quarterback" as asked of Doug Williams?

Urban myth. Never happened.

Yup... totally twisted... and pretty much screwed the guy's career.

And what is really sad is when you hear reporters, esp black ones, say, "Why do we have to call black QBs black?" Then when you jus call him a QB....its like, he's a BLACK QB, why do we have to take the black part out of it? I'm like...WTF????

Burgundy&Wha? wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

The Hogster wrote:That is proof that stupidity does not discriminate. That is the single most ignorant, dumb, and racist thing anyone can say regardless of race.

Rob Parker--you sir are an idiot.

Thank you. Jimmy the Greek's career disappeared the instant such racist crap spewed from his mouth... frankly, this is far worse, as it is personal.

ESPN needs to step up. Racism is racism.

Within weeks of that Jimmy The Greek incident, NBC News did a primetime feature that essentially took his position. Not defending him at all here, I just find the irony distasteful.

ESPN should fire this guy. Period. They ran Rush Limbaugh out of there for saying that Donovan McNabb didn't work hard enough and that the reason he was thought so highly of was that liberal reporters wanted him to do well. Well, once he got here we saw what his work ethic was like. The VIkings saw the same thing. If ESPN will run Limbaugh off for something that was essentially accurate, they should have kicked this guy out before the end of the workday.

Jimmy the Greek was talking fantasy. I was an apprentice historian -- intended to go to grad school in history until "fate" push me towards computers. There were suggestions, and attempts to document "slave breeding"...some historians guessed that the in older slave states, the tobacco states like Virginia, some plantation owners sold slaves to the newer cotton areas like Alabama and Mississippi. An idea that would have made economic sense if slave-owners thought with the same economics that 20th century business-owners use.

But they didn't. The slave-owners seem to have wanted to imitate their idea of a Eurpean aristocracy...where money was less important than show and "manners" and having a big house with Greek-style columns. Mark Twain said that the old south was drunk on images from Sir Walter Scott ("Life on the Mississippi"). Eugene Genovese said the same thing, in more detail but with less snap than Twain.

Further, none the "slave breeding" historians suggested that slaves were purposely bred for athletics, or even for strength. See Herb Gutman's "Black Family in Slavery and Freedom"; Gutman found that slaves married for pretty much the same reasons everyone else did. Slave families could be taken apart in some circumstances -- if, for instance, the owner went broke and the planation was sold. But there is little evidence that masters arranged marriages to create a "master race" of slave / athletes...or had the power to try.

Jimmy the Greek was fired because he made up garbage.

Roll back a few decades, and many boxers were Italians. The Rockies: Marciano and Graziano, for instance. Nobody has suggested that Italians were bred to box.

This guy is a knuckle head for BRINGING this up. He said:

Is RGIII "down with the cause?" "he's Republican" "his fiance is white"...? He just wants to dig deeper about RGIII.

SO WHAT........??? what's your point?

Here's comments from Levine, a radio figure:

Frederick Douglass was "Down with the cause" of Abolition...
He was Republican
His second wife was white (after his first wife died)


SO WHAT.............Mr Man.....??? Rob put himself in hot water here....

Well, regarding Douglass being a Repub...back then the Repubs were more the party of civil rights, and the Dems were more the racist party, so that part doesn't quite hold water.

The funny thing is, I've seen those same inaccurate sentiments echoed on this very forum.