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Deadskins wrote:DOGSRBACK wrote:Guess what the Redskins would be without RG3
The Browns?
DarthMonk wrote:I liked this a lot from Hogwash:Deadskins wrote:DOGSRBACK wrote:Guess what the Redskins would be without RG3
The Browns?
crazyhorse1 wrote:Cappster wrote:Thank you, Crazyhorse1, for providing yet another post with a positive outlook. Our defense was solid last year and I don't believe you address all of the different variables that come into play when evaluating a defense.
We ranked 6th in points allowed
We ranked 5th in first downs allowed
We ranked 7th in 3rd down percentage
Those are key stats that are hard to ignore CH1. The thing that killed us last year is the inability to force turnovers. Now what can we do better this year to become an impact defense? Pass Rush. Our secondary arguably played better than any other last year, but the opportunities for turnovers were scarce as the opposing QB had all day to throw. I don't believe any is hailing our defense from last year as a truly "great" defense, but they were solid nonetheless.
You are precisely right about the lack of turnovers last year killing us. We were sub par in regard to an element of defense in which a single play can mean a 14 flip, as well as an morale crushing shift in momentum. When our D's are good at it, we never tire of hailing it as the most important element of a defense. Most top teams in the NFL, year after year, are among league leaders in creating turnovers.
The Redskin D last year looked far better on paper than it actually was. For instance, it was fairly highly rated against the run and pass in re. to yards allowed primarily because other teams would get ahead of us, know we couldn't score, and just burn time with short yards runs the whole second half or fouth quarter. Even when teams moved unstoppably against us and destroyed our chance of winning, they were actually enhancing our D stats on paper in regard to average gain, total yards allowed, etc. If they had been forced out of their prolonged stalls, which was the D's job to do, they would have doubtless gained many more yards against us, but would have possibly opened a door for us to win. So, they played it safe and dull and just killed time by running the ball down our throats a few yards at a time-- saving our stats on paper but making us look and feel helpless.
We were, in fact, one of the weakest short yardage defenses in Redskin uniforms in recent years when the game was on the line. In several games we failed to stop sustained drives of straignt on vanilla plays in the clutch and eliminated the offense's chances of getting us back in game or hanging up a win. That, coupled with utter failure to create turnovers greatly assisted our offense to its collapse. That's why getting a stopper like Haynesworth became a multi-million dollar priority. That's also why a so-called top rated defense needed to spend its top pick on a guy who can potentually cause turnours, stop the run, stop the pass, and stop drives by picking up sacks.
In regard to points allowed, the stat looks better on paper than the field because all of the above.
As for our good-looking numbers in regard to allowing first downs-- obvious. Team that used short yardage tactics against us burned so much time in the process that first downs were relatively few per game. If the first downs achieved against us had been by the pass, there would have been many more first downs, but our chances for turnover would be improved and our chances at winning magnified. We have and had a good coverage defense.
First rule of defense: stop the run first. We didn't in the clutch and benefited on paper because statistical measurements of performances have inherent flaw. The FO knows that.
Those who call me an idiot for my view of the defense as a just average unit last year, might well reflect that my view is totally supported by actual FO personnel decisions, not contradicted by them.
Raise your hands-- all of you who were or are surprised that the Skins virtually ignored the offense in regard to additions and reinforcements while blowing their wad on defensive players for the coming season.
You, not me, are football idiots. You think with your feelers instead of feel with your thinkers. You grasp at feel good-myths and want to be developed by Zorn, who will love you. Why not change your avatars. Fios could go from a cup to a picture of Elton John with tears streaming down his big, pink sunglasses and singing Candle in the Wind.
langleyparkjoe wrote:I just spoke with RG3.. he said thanks for the support and prayers. He also said he's already starting jogging around his living room so he's on track already to practice next month. He did mention that he'd quit if FedexField's turf isn't fixed. Also, apparently DannyBoy snores on his flights.
Later!
Lombardi took over as HEAD COACH for a horrible Packer team (it had just gone 2-10, 3-9, 3-9, 6-6, 2-9-1, 4-8, 6-6, 4-8, 3-9, 1-10-1; that's 34-84-2).TexasCowboy wrote:I'll await your I don't know anything about winning or football rhetoric
^^^ There you have it folks - the single most ignorant post in the history of this board. There is now no way TC can expect anyone to take any of his posts seriously.TexasCowboy wrote:I say he is every bit AS worthy
a very worthy "contestant" - now I know how Norval Turner makes a HOF .... maybeDarn it Monk. You beat me to this. LOLDarthMonk wrote:Lombardi took over as HEAD COACH for a horrible Packer team (it had just gone 2-10, 3-9, 3-9, 6-6, 2-9-1, 4-8, 6-6, 4-8, 3-9, 1-10-1; that's 34-84-2).TexasCowboy wrote:I'll await your I don't know anything about winning or football rhetoric
They instantly went 7-5.
He then proceeded to win 5 NFL titles in 7 years and remains the only coach to win 3 in a row.
He then took over a horrible Redskin team (it had just gone 3-9, 1-9-2, 1-12-1, 5-7-2, 3-11, 6-8, 7-7, 5-6-3, 5-9; that's 36-74-8).
They instantly went 7-5-2. Lombardi then died of cancer.
Meanwhile, Norv Turner got 2 rings as an assistant. He then went on to compile the WORST HEAD COACHING RECORD IN HISTORY for any NFL coach of 200+ games. This includes taking over a 14-2 Charger team stacked with 18 Pro Bowlers and 9 first team All-Pros and the NFL's #1 offense. When they fired him they had just gone 7-9, had the NFL's #20 offense, and zero Pro Bowlers.
You have posted that Norv Turner is as deserving of enshrinement as Vince Lombardi then doubled down on that when I gave you a chance to back off.
Do you maintain that Norv Turner is as deserving of enshrinement as Vince Lombardi ?
^^^ There you have it folks - the single most ignorant post in the history of this board. There is now no way TC can expect anyone to take any of his posts seriously.TexasCowboy wrote:I say he is every bit AS worthy
Did you notice the person who he thought Stoudt backed up in Pittsburgh? Rothlisberger. Stoudt's last season as a Steeler Quarterback was 83. Big Ben was born in 1982.TexasCowboy wrote:
Notice how he can't answer the question cause he know the answer it?
there is no place that validates his delusion, That Norv had to win 1 on his own.
In order
to falidate what he clearly earned
so to answer his ignorant question
* Yes Stoudt is a winner by virtue of the fact he won 2 rings, as Rothlisberger's backup Stoudt, wasn't some clip board carrying tout barer as this clown would like
to think he is. So here's a burning question and let's see if this time he can answer
the question instead of dodging it
* If the Cardinals didn't think highly of him, and didn't see him as a backup with 2 rings, Then why would the Cardinals take a chance on him???
The answer awaits.
I like how Monk thinks my answer is going to somehow change, after he's rewordedDarthMonk wrote:Lombardi took over as HEAD COACH for a horrible Packer team (it had just gone 2-10, 3-9, 3-9, 6-6, 2-9-1, 4-8, 6-6, 4-8, 3-9, 1-10-1; that's 34-84-2).
They instantly went 7-5.
He then proceeded to win 5 NFL titles in 7 years and remains the only coach to win 3 in a row.
He then took over a horrible Redskin team (it had just gone 3-9, 1-9-2, 1-12-1, 5-7-2, 3-11, 6-8, 7-7, 5-6-3, 5-9; that's 36-74-8).
They instantly went 7-5-2. Lombardi then died of cancer.
Meanwhile, Norv Turner got 2 rings as an assistant. He then went on to compile the WORST HEAD COACHING RECORD IN HISTORY for any NFL coach of 200+ games. This includes taking over a 14-2 Charger team stacked with 18 Pro Bowlers and 9 first team All-Pros and the NFL's #1 offense. When they fired him they had just gone 7-9, had the NFL's #20 offense, and zero Pro Bowlers.
You have posted that Norv Turner is as deserving of enshrinement as Vince Lombardi then doubled down on that when I gave you a chance to back off.
Do you maintain that Norv Turner is as deserving of enshrinement as Vince Lombardi ?
^^^ There you have it folks - the single most ignorant post in the history of this board. There is now no way TC can expect anyone to take any of his posts seriously.
I also like the fact, that if we go based on this* It is not my job to know who he backed up? took an educated guess, got it wrong,flamethrower wrote: Did you notice the person who he thought Stoudt backed up in Pittsburgh? Rothlisberger. Stoudt's last season as a Steeler Quarterback was 83. Big Ben was born in 1982. Also Stoud's career record was 9 wins and 10 losses. 1 post season appearance that he lost.
His record after leaving the Steelers was a remarkable 0 wins and 4 losses in 3 years with the Cardinals.
There was one. But, some mod locked it. Not to worry I started another one.Countertrey wrote:There is a thread in Smack that includes this topic. ALL discussion regarding Norv Turner HOF fantasies will be limited to that thread. The incessant, repetitive posts that add nothing to the forum are disruptive, and are not welcome outside .
Thanks.
Playoffs...Playoffs??
Postby The Hogster ยป Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:33 am
The Washington Redskins, and its players must focus solely on the game in front of them. This week, it's Dallas. But, we fans aren't held to that singular focus. We are able to glean hope from the possibilities that can take shape over the coming weeks.
So here, goes. The Washington Redskins are not only alive and well in the playoff race. But, they have a clear path to win an NFC East title. As fate would have it, as long as the Skins win their games against division rivals, they have a great chance to hoist some hardware at the end of the year.
The Skins are 4-6 right now. Third place. Behind the Cowboys 5-5 and the Giants 6-4. With a win over the Cowboys, the Redskins would be alone in 2nd place.
The NY Giants play a surging Green Bay Packers team this Sunday. If the Packers pull out an expected win, and the Skins beat Dallas. That would set up an enormous game the following week at HOME versus the NY Giants for the Division lead.
It has been a while since the Redskins have had a home game in December that means something. Check out the standings. The Skins also hold tiebreakers over the division if they continue to win. It all starts with this one game--which just so happens to be against the Cowgirls on National TV. Hail to the Redskins. Let's get this done.