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If we trade down....

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:03 pm
by Redskins1974
I'd like to pick up this guy. I think he would fit into Gibb's offense great. If we don't trade down, my vote's on Sean Taylor...

Prospect Profiles


Ben Troupe
Position: Tight End
College: Florida
Height: 6-4
Weight: 262
Hometown: Augusta, Ga.

Analysis | Agility | High School | Personal

OVERVIEW
Regarded by many as the premier senior tight end in college football, the 2003 finalist for the John Mackey Award (given to the nation's top tight end) provided stellar play during his time with the Gators … Troupe participated in 2,048 plays while starting 20 of 39 contests (including 2000 and 2001 bowls) for Florida … Finished his career with 64 receptions for 958 yards (14.9 avg.) and seven touchdowns.
ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a large, wide frame with good overall muscle definition, a thick upper body, long arms, wide hips and thick thighs … Has good initial quickness off the snap, showing the ability to escape and uncover vs. the jam … Very effective working in the slot, using his size and strength to shield defenders from the ball … Big target who shows urgency and quickness to separate in his routes … Has natural hands to extend and pluck the ball away from the body's frame … Has the speed to create mismatches vs. linebackers and safeties when operating in the short area … Has the body control to adjust downfield in attempts to track the ball over his shoulder … Shows the speed and agility to elude defenders in space and the size to break tackles … Can adjust and pick up blocks downfield, showing good field awareness when helping the ground game … Solid receiver who shows smoothness in his routes.
Negatives: Marginal in-line blocker who will compete, but will fall off blocks late and let defenders get their hands into his frame … Must extend his arms better and generate a stronger hand jolt to pick up the blitz … Has the toughness to get to the ball in traffic and the strength to break arm tackles, but does not attack the defenders as well as he should to gain yardage after the catch (will go down quickly vs. low blocks).

AGILITY TESTS
4.7 in the 40-yard dash … 365-pound bench press … 545-pound squat … 340-pound power clean … 37-inch vertical jump.
HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Butler (Augusta, Ga.) High, playing football for coach David Land … Named to PrepStar's All-America Team and that publication ranked him among the top five tight end prospects in the southeast … Had 29 catches for 405 yards and five touchdowns in 1999 … One of four tight ends named to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Georgia Top 75 Squad.
PERSONAL
Sociology major … Son of Cheryl and John Troupe … Born on Sept. 1, 1982 … Resides in Augusta, Ga.
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:51 pm
by FatPat
If we trade down how about Ben Watson just look at his numbers in the agility tests...that is sick and coaching from Simmons and Bugel he can be a devastating blocker...

Height: 6-3
Weight: 253
Hometown: Rock Hill, S.C.

Analysis | Agility | High School | Personal

OVERVIEW
Regarded as one of the premier tight ends in the country after a stellar junior campaign, Watson was hampered most of his final season with a nagging ankle injury … Fine athlete with tremendous quickness, boasting the fastest 40-yard dash (4.44) of any tight end in college football … Very involved in community service (volunteered for the Habitat for Humanity, Mentoring for Athens/Clarke County Leisure Services, Reading Programs at local elementary schools, Fellowship of Christian Athletes Spokesperson, Boys and Girls Club of Athens, Americas Second Harvest Food Bank and the Volunteer Salvation Army Toys-for-Tots programs) … Began his career at Duke University, catching eight passes for 93 yards (11.6 avg.) and a touchdown in 1999 … Sat out the 2000 season under NCAA transfer rules … In 37 games (26 starts) for Georgia, he made 65 catches for 852 yards (13.6 avg.) and six touchdowns … For his collegiate career, he totaled 945 yards and seven scores on 73 receptions (12.9 avg.).

ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a great frame, with very good muscle development, chiseled upper and lower body, long arms, large hands and thick thighs and calves … Consistent receiver who plays with good effort … Has a sudden upfield burst and above-average lateral quickness to reach the second level and gain position in-line … Has outstanding acceleration and speed, showing the burst and strength to easily play off the jam … Will sink his hips and separate out of his cuts downfield … Knows how to use his size to push off the defensive back and settle in the zone … Has good concentration going up for the ball in traffic … Has the speed and size to create mismatches vs. smaller defenders on deep routes (not used much on deep routes, though) … Able to avoid blocks and uncover quickly … Adjusts well on the move and can pick up the linebackers when blocking in space.

Negatives: Ankle injury needs further medical evaluation … Has a great burst off the ball, but his route running needs improvement (will shuffle his feet and keep his base a little too narrow) … Needs to play with a more aggressive nature (strong, but makes passive hand swipes when blocking for the ground game) … Does not play with good leverage when blocking in-line (leans too much into the defender, slipping off blocks) … His quiet nature makes it appear like he's coasting at times … Has great weight-room strength, but it does not always translate to the football field (gets poor hand placement in his blocks and needs to bring his arms up quicker to lock on, steer and sustain).

AGILITY TESTS
4.44 in the 40-yard dash … 535-pound bench press … 570-pound squat … 380-pound power clean … 40-inch vertical jump … 33¾-inch arm length … 10-inch hands … Right-handed … Wears contacts.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:06 pm
by Redskins1974
Wow - that is pretty sick. I've seen Ben Troupe play. Most notibly when Florida almost upset Miami this past season. He made a spectacular one handed grab to score a touchdown. He looked like a solid blocker as well despite what his bio states.

It will definitely be interesting to see what we do in the draft. Regardless, I think we're in a good position if we remain at #5 or trade down.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:48 pm
by John Manfreda
I would like to get Taylor or Winslow. Winslow had a crappy QB and still put up nasty numbers. In what ever bowl he was in he took a all ACC de and pancaked him on a run play. I want Taylor but if we can't get him, draft Winslow. The combine to me doesn't matter, football is played on the field. Don't get me wrong I like Watson and Thorpe, but Winslow and Taylor are two once in a lifetime players that you can't pass up.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:35 pm
by Skinsfan55
The combine doesn't matter to you? What?!!?

Okay, let's get a running back who runs the 40 in 4.96 seconds and a max bench press of 127 pounds... after all, football is played on the field and the combine doesn't matter anyway

:roll:

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:48 pm
by General Failure
Two words: Mike Mamula

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:31 pm
by ii7-V7
FatPat wrote:… 535-pound bench press …


Wow! Really?!?

Chad

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:38 pm
by skinsfaninroanoke
Shoot - let me see if I can find Randy Starks from Md... he is a monster...

I love him as a pick at DT, and he has actually risen, stock wise, to near the top of every board...

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:40 pm
by riggofan
No more gators!!!!

:)

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:18 pm
by ChiliPalmer
chaddukes wrote:
FatPat wrote:… 535-pound bench press …


Wow! Really?!?

Chad


Big deal, I can bench 535. I do get five reps to do it, right?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:34 pm
by skinsfaninroanoke
sure - but we don't take the bar off your trachea in between - sort of as an incentive for you to get the bar up :)