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Bull...Greenbay got ROBBED by refs...
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:50 pm
by tribeofjudah
Hey Mr. Goo-to-hell..............that was a PICK by GB...fire these dumb refs and get this game back on track.........
Re: Bull...Greenbay got ROBBED by refs...
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:20 am
by Redskin in Canada
tribeofjudah wrote:Hey Mr. Goo-to-hell..............that was a PICK by GB...fire these dumb refs and get this game back on track.........
Three consecutive bad calls against the Pack in the second to last drive by Seattle,
1. Roughing the passer? Are you kidding me?
2. Pass interference by the defense? It was pass interference by the offense!
3. Pass interference against the Pack and they make the interception only to get robbed.
I hope this is the tipping point that makes the owners ashamed and instruct their puppet to bring veteran officials back.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:53 am
by RayNAustin
I watched the game, and this was clearly a travesty .... I would support a NFLPA strike next week .... a walk out in support of the regular officials against these Billionaire Buffoons that refuse to protect the integrity of the game, while they demand integrity from the players that they are jeopardizing with these nincompoop zebras.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:18 am
by HEROHAMO
The collection of bad calls is ridiculous. The old refs we had maybe one to two games with reasonably questionable calls. Currently we have every game in which there are four to five highly questionable calls.
This commissioner talks about preserving the integrity of the game? What a crock! Bring back the old refs and get rid of Gosh awful!
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:20 am
by Bob 0119
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D0HiBEzPVP8
Just...wow...how do you blow that call on National television?
First no call for Offensive pass interference on Tate
It's clear that Jennings has landed on Tate with both hands around the ball and the ball to his (Jennings') chest while Tate has his arms around Jennings.
So to sum up; Jennings caught the ball. Tate caught Jennings=touchdown?
Two refs standing side by side, one with his hands up signaling touchdown, the other waving his hands signaling interception, after further review (YES THEY ACTUALLY REVIEWED IT) and still you come up touchdown?
How the hell did you come up with that call? I mean seriously it just defies all logic.
And it's not like it was a meaningless touchdown, the score was Green Bay 12 Seattle 7. The call decides the game and you still screw it up?
I'm sorry for rambling and repeating myself but I just can't believe it...
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:28 am
by blowwad
Just heard on espn that this was the same crew that officiated the redskins/rams game. Anyone here surprised?
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:38 am
by RayNAustin
Bob 0119 wrote:http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D0HiBEzPVP8
Just...wow...how do you blow that call on National television?
First no call for Offensive pass interference on Tate
It's clear that Jennings has landed on Tate with both hands around the ball and the ball to his (Jennings') chest while Tate has his arms around Jennings.
So to sum up; Jennings caught the ball. Tate caught Jennings=touchdown?
Two refs standing side by side, one with his hands up signaling touchdown, the other waving his hands signaling interception, after further review (YES THEY ACTUALLY REVIEWED IT) and still you come up touchdown?
How the hell did you come up with that call? I mean seriously it just defies all logic.
And it's not like it was a meaningless touchdown, the score was Green Bay 12 Seattle 7. The call decides the game and you still screw it up?
I'm sorry for rambling and repeating myself but I just can't believe it...
I agree on all points. The non-call for offensive pass interference would have made the Interception-Touchdown call moot. Then the touchdown call was BRAIN DEAD. Clearly, it was an interception, no room for doubt. But the real problem ... besides these hobo scab refs .... is that replay review rules were obviously written by lawyers and not football people.
It's a conglomeration of nonsense about what can be and what cannot be reviewed. How's about making it simple .... make everything reviewable, as it should be? Then, if you can see an obvious error on replay, correct it!!! How hard is that?
Given that this was inside 2 minutes, and a scoring play, which is automatically reviewable, what idiot or idiot rules would support that outcome?
Totally outrageous.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:15 am
by Deadskins
Bob 0119 wrote:http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D0HiBEzPVP8
Your link is for a mobile phone. Here is a computer link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0HiBEzPVP8
A tie goes to the offense, but that was no tie.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-t ... le=HP11_cp
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:34 am
by Deadskins
Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 5 of the NFL rulebook discusses a simultaneous catch.
"If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control," the rule states.
The rulebook also states when a simultaneous catch is ruled, you can't review who made the catch. You can only review if it was complete or incomplete.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... le=HP11_cp
OK, that last line means that the refs didn't have the option of overturning the call. Obviously, that is a stupid rule. They should just make everything reviewable. You should even be able to challenge calls that were not made. The goal of replay is to get the calls right, isn't it? You still only have two challenges, so it wouldn't slow the game down any.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:47 am
by ACW
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:33 am
by Bob 0119
Any argument about the scab officials being as good as the regular officials dies with that play if nothing else
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:44 am
by KazooSkinsFan
Bob 0119 wrote:Any argument about the scab officials being as good as the regular officials dies with that play if nothing else
No one has argued they are now "as good." So you're arguing with no one.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:59 am
by tribeofjudah
How could this have happened, you ask?
1. refs are totally incapable and intimidated
2. had they made the RIGHT call - they all would have been scalped by the fans
3. Can we say: Home Field Advantage?
It AIN'T right guys.......it JUST AIN'T RIGHT....!!!
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:00 am
by Deadskins
tribeofjudah wrote:How could this have happened, you ask?
1. refs are totally incapable and intimidated
2. had they made the RIGHT call - they all would have been scalped by the fans
3. Can we say: Home Field Advantage?
It AIN'T right guys.......it JUST AIN'T RIGHT....!!!
We didn't get that home field advantage from the exact same officiating crew.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:05 am
by tribeofjudah
Gamblers beware: don't lose your $$$ to these refs.
I feel sorry for those who LOST money on this game...
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:14 am
by KazooSkinsFan
tribeofjudah wrote:Gamblers beware: don't lose your $$$ to these refs.
I feel sorry for those who LOST money on this game...
The more bonehead play was by Jennings than the refs. Had he not gone for the ego interception and just knocked the ball down, it was game over. Going for the ego in a crowd invites a simultaneous catch opportunity. While I agree it was a bad call, it only happened because Jennings made even a dumber play to set it up.
For those who defend Kyle and Morgan because their mistakes happened only after official mistakes, check and mate. For the rest, at least be honest, he clearly could have and should have driven the ball into the ground. Coaches should save that play and show it to their d-backs for that reason.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:31 am
by blowwad
KazooSkinsFan wrote:tribeofjudah wrote:Gamblers beware: don't lose your $$$ to these refs.
I feel sorry for those who LOST money on this game...
The more bonehead play was by Jennings than the refs. Had he not gone for the ego interception and just knocked the ball down, it was game over. Going for the ego in a crowd invites a simultaneous catch opportunity. While I agree it was a bad call, it only happened because Jennings made even a dumber play to set it up.
For those who defend Kyle and Morgan because their mistakes happened only after official mistakes, check and mate. For the rest, at least be honest, he clearly could have and should have driven the ball into the ground. Coaches should save that play and show it to their d-backs for that reason.
Perhaps Jennings had watched the Detroit/Tennessee game from Sunday...
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:34 am
by tribeofjudah
Deadskins wrote:tribeofjudah wrote:How could this have happened, you ask?
1. refs are totally incapable and intimidated
2. had they made the RIGHT call - they all would have been scalped by the fans
3. Can we say: Home Field Advantage?
It AIN'T right guys.......it JUST AIN'T RIGHT....!!!
We didn't get that home field advantage from the exact same officiating crew.
I know...and it JUST AIN'T RIGHT
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:42 am
by tribeofjudah
One way to prevent this is to BLOW OUT the other team. Don't leave fate to a last minute play and some inept refs. Easier said than done.
Many games come down to the wire - and stuff like this ensues.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:54 am
by Bob 0119
KazooSkinsFan wrote:Bob 0119 wrote:Any argument about the scab officials being as good as the regular officials dies with that play if nothing else
No one has argued they are now "as good." So you're arguing with no one.
The NFL seems to be
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:55 am
by Bob 0119
Deadskins wrote:tribeofjudah wrote:How could this have happened, you ask?
1. refs are totally incapable and intimidated
2. had they made the RIGHT call - they all would have been scalped by the fans
3. Can we say: Home Field Advantage?
It AIN'T right guys.......it JUST AIN'T RIGHT....!!!
We didn't get that home field advantage from the exact same officiating crew.
Of course we did. We had that officiating crew in St. Louis...
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:08 am
by KazooSkinsFan
Bob 0119 wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:Bob 0119 wrote:Any argument about the scab officials being as good as the regular officials dies with that play if nothing else
No one has argued they are now "as good." So you're arguing with no one.
The NFL seems to be
OK, fair enough. I thought you meant the discussion on the site. I have been the most "pro" replacement, and even I didn't argue they have been as good as the regulars, I thought that was what you were referring to.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:43 am
by grampi
RayNAustin wrote:I watched the game, and this was clearly a travesty .... I would support a NFLPA strike next week .... a walk out in support of the regular officials against these Billionaire Buffoons that refuse to protect the integrity of the game, while they demand integrity from the players that they are jeopardizing with these nincompoop zebras.
I agree, and McCarthy should file a formal complaint against the league over the final play....a play that was solely responsible for the Packers losing the game, a play where the wrong call was clearly made and it's indisputable, a call the league cannot defend...in the meantime, the Packers need to put this behind them and move on...not an easy multi-task...
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:10 am
by Deadskins
grampi wrote:McCarthy should file a formal complaint against the league over the final play....a play that was solely responsible for the Packers losing the game, a play where the wrong call was clearly made and it's indisputable, a call the league cannot defend.
That's where you're wrong.
Deadskins wrote:Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 5 of the NFL rulebook discusses a simultaneous catch.
"If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control," the rule states.
The rulebook also states when a simultaneous catch is ruled, you can't review who made the catch. You can only review if it was complete or incomplete.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... le=HP11_cpOK, that last line means that the refs didn't have the option of overturning the call. Obviously, that is a stupid rule. They should just make everything reviewable. You should even be able to challenge calls that were not made. The goal of replay is to get the calls right, isn't it? You still only have two challenges, so it wouldn't slow the game down any.
The regular refs have made game costing blown calls too, in even more important games (the Tom Brady tuck rule comes to mind), and the league defended those calls. Several years back the 49ers were given a game saving call against the G-strings in a playoff game, and the league issued an apology, but that was little consolation to the G-strings (I did like that one
). These things happen, so I don't see where this really changes anything. They need to fix the replay system, so that any aspect of any play can be reviewed.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:40 am
by ACW
Deadskins wrote:tribeofjudah wrote:How could this have happened, you ask?
1. refs are totally incapable and intimidated
2. had they made the RIGHT call - they all would have been scalped by the fans
3. Can we say: Home Field Advantage?
It AIN'T right guys.......it JUST AIN'T RIGHT....!!!
We didn't get that home field advantage from the exact same officiating crew.
They reffed the Rams game, not the Bengals game.