Redskins tight end Fred Davis must have enjoyed his stint as a lawyer earlier in the offseason.
Davis represented himself in a lawsuit against a celebrity broker accusing him of harassing her, but he was in a less formal setting on Tuesday when discussing the multiple failed drug tests that led to his suspension for four games last season. Davis took issue with the idea that he continually failed drug tests by arguing that he was set up to fail the tests because of the way marijuana remains in the system after smoking it.
“So, it’s one of those situations where you guys are all like, ‘Oh, you failed it again and again,’” Davis said on 1o6.7 The Fan in D.C., via Sarah Kogod of the Washington Post‘s D.C. Sports Bog . “No, it was three weeks in a row they test you, and anybody who smokes weed knows that weed isn’t going to be out of your system in a month. So, of course they’re gonna say it’s repeated.”
One could counter that not smoking marijuana would keep you from the first failed test and the consequences of such a testing schedule, but there’s no point in rearguing something that’s already happened. Now is the time for Davis to stop talking about the circumstances of his suspension and turn all of his attention toward the season so he can put up the kind of performance that gets him the long-term deal that eluded him this offseason.
On that front, Davis said that it’s been almost a year since he’s smoked marijuana so he’s already one step ahead of staying on the field than he was this time last year.
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Scottskins wrote:You have to smoke pretty often for it to stay in your system for three weeks...
This is correct. If you smoke for a month you will in turn test positive for almost a month. One time use showing up for 3 weeks is a ridiculous claim.
I don't see a claim for one-time use ... at least not in the quotations from the original post or link. His "claim" seems to be no use after the first positive test.
If you get tested on a Sunday and then get tested on the next two Sundays then that's 14 or 15 days. It is quite feasable that a large man with many fat cells could store enough chems in his body to test positive all 3 times without further use after the first test.
Working out has effects. On one hand the fat cells release the chems. On the other hand they release the chems into .... the urine!
Though slightly off topic I'd have to agree with Morgan Freeman:
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The potency is a big factor as well as the nano grams they are starting a failed test at. 5 is normal but if its lower Lord knows how long it can stay in the system.
I'd say he was blazing in during the lockout, hasn't been busted before, then had to test sooner then he was told- or so was reported. Failed the first and his body didn't metabolize it fast enough to keep from failing the rest. What isn't disclosed is if the nano grams he first failed at were going down in previously failed tests which would indicate non use.
For the record I know for a fact if you smoke an eighth of an oz, not a supper big amount but in one sitting isn't recommended for light weights, of some BOMB azzz chronic.. failing drug tests that start at 5 nano grams for over 2 months is not only possible but happens.
That's what I was arguing last year... I mean he's ballin pretty hard for his early twenties I'm sure he got the good good... You know the snoopdog shizzle! Lmao
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Scottskins wrote:You have to smoke pretty often for it to stay in your system for three weeks...
This is correct. If you smoke for a month you will in turn test positive for almost a month. One time use showing up for 3 weeks is a ridiculous claim.
Actually, if you smoke it regularly, your body has an easier time disposing of the residue as it is used to ridding itself of the chemical already. Smoking it once usually takes longer as your body is not familiar with flushing the chemicals out of your body. Nonetheless, if he did fail three tests, three weeks in a row, it was stupid for the NFL to test him that way. I heard that he failed in the summer then failed again later on in the season. Either way Freddie needs to know that if he pops negative on a pee pee test for drug use, it will cost him financially. If he gets caught repeatedly, it will cost him his career.
I don't care whether he smoked every day for a month before that first test or had tried it for the first time the day before. It seems reasonable to believe him that he didn't smoke between tests and they were simply adding up negative tests from the same violation. I really don't like that policy on the NFL's part.
Reminds me of a speed camera in DC I "discovered" by getting a ticket in the mail . . . and then another . . . and then another — all three speeding incidents occuring before I had gotten the first ticket and knew it was there. And then they fined me extra for each instance like I was flaunting them.
The potency is a big factor as well as the nano grams they are starting a failed test at. 5 is normal but if its lower Lord knows how long it can stay in the system.
I'd say he was blazing in during the lockout, hasn't been busted before, then had to test sooner then he was told- or so was reported. Failed the first and his body didn't metabolize it fast enough to keep from failing the rest. What isn't disclosed is if the nano grams he first failed at were going down in previously failed tests which would indicate non use.
For the record I know for a fact if you smoke an eighth of an oz, not a supper big amount but in one sitting isn't recommended for light weights, of some BOMB azzz chronic.. failing drug tests that start at 5 nano grams for over 2 months is not only possible but happens.
That's what I was arguing last year... I mean he's ballin pretty hard for his early twenties I'm sure he got the good good... You know the snoopdog shizzle! Lmao
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Scottskins wrote:You have to smoke pretty often for it to stay in your system for three weeks...
This is correct. If you smoke for a month you will in turn test positive for almost a month. One time use showing up for 3 weeks is a ridiculous claim.
It really depends on your body fat. But if you are a regular smoker, and have a regular amount of body fat, then you will test positive for two months plus. But you can also drink a gallon of water in the couple of hours leading up to the test, and dilute your urine enough to fall under the requisite parts per million. An athlete like Davis has a pretty low body fat count. He obviously was a regular smoker prior to the first test, but I can believe he quit after the first positive, and the other two were residual positives.
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Chris Luva Luva wrote:I love it when the self righteous posters come out.
Hmmm, I don't see anybody being self righteous so far. I know that, personally, I am for *legalize it.* There are rules in place by Freddie's employer that dictate that he cannot smoke pot and get caught. I have the same rules for where I work and that is why I make the choice to do without it rather than ruining my career. Except that he makes millions more than I do!
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Here are a few self righteous posters for you:
Back on topic ...
Dope is not a PED. I suppose testing for it was collectively bargained. I'd call that a mistake by the NFLPA in a vacuum but who knows what give-and-take was involved there?
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Scottskins wrote:You have to smoke pretty often for it to stay in your system for three weeks...
This is correct. If you smoke for a month you will in turn test positive for almost a month. One time use showing up for 3 weeks is a ridiculous claim.
Actually, if you smoke it regularly, your body has an easier time disposing of the residue as it is used to ridding itself of the chemical already. Smoking it once usually takes longer as your body is not familiar with flushing the chemicals out of your body. Nonetheless, if he did fail three tests, three weeks in a row, it was stupid for the NFL to test him that way. I heard that he failed in the summer then failed again later on in the season. Either way Freddie needs to know that if he pops negative on a pee pee test for drug use, it will cost him financially. If he gets caught repeatedly, it will cost him his career.
This may be accurate, I will look it up. I am going off of what the drug screeners tell us about weed from work. The guys that get nailed for steroids sometimes say they hadn't taken it in 6-9 months, then again, they always deny taking them in the first place.
Cappster wrote:Actually, if you smoke it regularly, your body has an easier time disposing of the residue as it is used to ridding itself of the chemical already. Smoking it once usually takes longer as your body is not familiar with flushing the chemicals out of your body.
That's just totally false.
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My girlfriends daughters dad is a bigwig drug counselor here in town. She works at the rehab center and got busted (using regularly on weekends), used the flushing stuff you can buy and tested positive for 6 weeks. It didnt start going down for a month. I think she had been smoking for a year. Weekly testing should tell you what kind of user they are by how long it takes to drop. Assuming they quit lol. Thats the info he provided anyway...
His career, and thus the ability to make millions of dollars a year could be jeopardized by the drug testing he knows is part of the NFL. An NFL player's career is fairly short, and it could end abruptly at any time. Isn't there enough reason to abstain from something as simple as smoking? Come on, Fred... Smoking any time while under contract with a team is f-ing stupid.
I heard Fred on sure when he said that they tested him three weeks in a row and almost choked on my soda trying to get out BS! There is no easy the NFLPA agreed to a testing procedure that would automatically get someeone suspended fur a year for smoking pot.
If you smoked right befor the test you could fail for tests in a month w/o smoking again (provided you were a fat, habitual weed toker).
I didn't believe Fred then and I still don't. He failed the first test at the beginning of training camp last year. If you were to believe him, he failed three in a row. That would mean he failed 3 or 4 test befor the season started. So why did it take the NFL 13 weeks to get around to suspending him?
Not saying he is lying, I'm just saying I don't believe him and the 3 month delay on handing out the punishment cos of makes me think mt gut feeling is correct.
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skinsfan#33 wrote:I heard Fred on sure when he said that they tested him three weeks in a row and almost choked on my soda trying to get out BS! There is no easy the NFLPA agreed to a testing procedure that would automatically get someeone suspended fur a year for smoking pot.
If you smoked right befor the test you could fail for tests in a month w/o smoking again (provided you were a fat, habitual weed toker).
I didn't believe Fred then and I still don't. He failed the first test at the beginning of training camp last year. If you were to believe him, he failed three in a row. That would mean he failed 3 or 4 test befor the season started. So why did it take the NFL 13 weeks to get around to suspending him?
Not saying he is lying, I'm just saying I don't believe him and the 3 month delay on handing out the punishment cos of makes me think mt gut feeling is correct.
Because there was no CBA prior to the first failed test, and players weren't given time to get clean, and then re-tested in a short period of time the NFLPA got involved and appealed the suspensions. Eleven players or so were all looking at 4 game off but the NFLPA got the penalties knocked down, but know ruling had been announced then two of those idiots pissed hot AGAIN and were looking at sitting for a year. In the end the league agreed not to suspend those that failed twice the fours they should have and knocked Trent and Fred's one year off to a four game suspensions.
That would account for the time between the positive test and the suspensions. I can't see them testing them back to back to back like Davis wants us to believe.
They put them in a program after the first positive, I doubt they'd continue with testing that could have punitive results right after putting them in the program. Testing to monitor the level of usage, maybe but why test them to see if they are dirty if they were dirty last week.
Being the numbers geek that I am... that just don't add up.
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Thought we were pretty much done with this weed topic.....as far as I am concerned it would have been better if Davis would have just said something along lines of "Hey, I inhaled and got caught, and paid the price. It won't happen again".
I got popped on a piss test in the Navy a long, long time ago. I also claimed it was my first time smoking, when in reality I was pretty much constant smoker and had been since my teens. So....when I hear someone get caught at something, then say "well, it was my first time".....I am suspicious of that. On the positive side, I quite after that test....and have not smoked again mainly due to my job requirements. So, hopefully Davis and Williams have done the same.
To me, the past is just that....let's see what happens now. Hopefully Fred has done some maturing in his lifestyle....
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