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This is a really tough one even I'm going to have to think about... debating between ey and Pierre.

Plus in addition, I don't know why a lot of people have been hating on ey lately... he has been our most productive offensive player for over 5 years now... and now he has a great QB and supporting cast...

I think Moss will be the beneficiary of the added talent to the WR corps. Without a #1 or maybe even #2 corner on him, he should flourish and continue to get YAC.

Prowl33 wrote:This is a really tough one even I'm going to have to think about... debating between ey and Pierre.

Plus in addition, I don't know why a lot of people have been hating on ey lately... he has been our most productive offensive player for over 5 years now... and now he has a great QB and supporting cast...

I don't think people are hating on ey, I think people expect for Fred Davis to have a good/better/great season after having a pretty nice one last year before the drug stuff.

FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:I think Moss will be the beneficiary of the added talent to the WR corps. Without a #1 or maybe even #2 corner on him, he should flourish and continue to get YAC.

This is thw same thing I've been thinking. I can really see Moss having some big games with they way RG3 can throw the deep ball.

This is hard to project... The starter at TE could get big #'s because they're typically a saftey valve for young QB's. The defense will be spread with WR's, there will be a spy on RGIII and our TE's can beat most LB's. I could see our TE's having a lot of receptions. Davis could get quite a bit of YAC. ey/Davis could see some TD's.

Garcon is going to get a lot of YAC. Especially on broken plays.

If I had to choose one person, it'd be Leonard Hankerson. Hank showed a lot of promise in his very limited action. Even though it was limited, we witnessed a maturation process, growth and productivity. He matured by owning his short comings and working hard in practice (Mike S. staple) to earn starting time. We saw growth in his game, as he was reliable in that short period of time. He must have been running the correct routes, as evident by him being targetted quite a bit and not benched.

But... The biggest thing is, he was a redzone target. Look for RGIII to throw back shoulder passes to our biggest WR. Look for RGIII to break the pocket and throw a high frozen rope to his tallest WR.

Prowl33 wrote:This is a really tough one even I'm going to have to think about... debating between ey and Pierre.

Plus in addition, I don't know why a lot of people have been hating on ey lately... he has been our most productive offensive player for over 5 years now... and now he has a great QB and supporting cast...

He's also been injured a lot lately. There's no hate but you gotta get on the field, especially when you're country 6M+ against the CAP.

FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:I think Moss will be the beneficiary of the added talent to the WR corps. Without a #1 or maybe even #2 corner on him, he should flourish and continue to get YAC.

I doubt it. Mike mentioned Moss almost as an after-thought. When speaking about who would be considered starters both Garcon and Hankerson were mentioned first. Moss was jumbled in with Morgan at the slot position.

ey got my vote because he always was a Pro-Bowl TE working with mediocre QBs in the past.

F. Davis may not even finish the season on the field.

Had to go with Garcon. I think he'll bust out and have a good year.

I had to consider Davis too, for the same reasons Chris stated. My question about him though is if a healthy ey might affect his impact and time on the field?

I don't trust ey not to get hurt or Davis not to get himself in more trouble so I'm going with Garçon.

We got Garcon for a reason. He will have a big year.

Santana will have his career best.. watch wuh meh tell yuh.

They will have no choice but to double team Garcon and IF Santana is in the slot.. ooooh boy.

Santana for President 2016

langleyparkjoe wrote:Santana will have his career best.. watch wuh meh tell yuh.

They will have no choice but to double team Garcon and IF Santana is in the slot.. ooooh boy.

Santana for President 2016

I dig your logic, and I won't be surprised to see Moss tear it up this season. Too many people dismissing him too easily.

The TE position will get the most first downs and cause matchup problems for the opposing DC's

the WRs will get the most yards


passing TDs will be evenly spread between the backs, TEs and WRs



we are going to see a more evenly balanced offense this year with RGIII getting used to the NFL and what Kyle wants to run here

Eddie Royal! He signed with us, right?

I decided I am going with Chris ey... He has only had a couple injuries... and he is fully healthy and recovered now. I see our old pro-bowl TE being the biggest contributor to the team, not that everyone else wont contribute.

You want to talk YAC? Look back at some ey film, this guy is a bulldozer that just runs people over, and he has sticky hands when it comes to catching that ball too. He runs great routes, and can put on a good block.

I say this year he has a career season, and is now entering his prime. Dare I say #1 TE in the NFL in the 2012 season? I honestly think so, maybe not for total yards or TD's because our offense will be spread, but just overall production at the position.

Prowl33 wrote:He has only had a couple injuries...

True but they've lingered and been impactful to his career and ability to contribute.

Prowl33 wrote:and he is fully healthy and recovered now.

That has yet to be determined. The big test is OTA's. He hasn't really put a pounding on that knee yet.

Prowl33 wrote:I say this year he has a career season, and is now entering his prime.

Possible but he's def not entering his prime. He's getting up their in age, an inablity to quickly bounce back from injury is usually a tell-tale sign for NFL players.

Prowl33 wrote: Dare I say #1 TE in the NFL in the 2012 season? I honestly think so, maybe not for total yards or TD's because our offense will be spread, but just overall production at the position.

I hope ey has a banner year but, #1 TE...? No. lol. Gronk, Hernandez? Yes.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Prowl33 wrote:He has only had a couple injuries...

True but they've lingered and been impactful to his career and ability to contribute.

Prowl33 wrote:and he is fully healthy and recovered now.

That has yet to be determined. The big test is OTA's. He hasn't really put a pounding on that knee yet.

Prowl33 wrote:I say this year he has a career season, and is now entering his prime.

Possible but he's def not entering his prime. He's getting up their in age, an inablity to quickly bounce back from injury is usually a tell-tale sign for NFL players.

Prowl33 wrote: Dare I say #1 TE in the NFL in the 2012 season? I honestly think so, maybe not for total yards or TD's because our offense will be spread, but just overall production at the position.

I hope ey has a banner year but, #1 TE...? No. lol. Gronk, Hernandez? Yes.

Someone is kinda being a downer today.

Seriously, 16 votes? Come on people, polls are made to be used so use um!!!

This is a tough prediction to make this early...but...I'm thinking Hankerson is going to have a breakthrough year if he gets (and stays) healthy. Something tells me we will see a lot of 2/3 TE sets near the goal line with Paul, Davis and ey. I wouldn't be surprised to see ey used as a FB again either, especially in goal line situations. There will be a lot more weapons inside the redzone this season; as well as a QB who can take off and get there himself...thats going to open things up. I bet (hope) we see a lot more 6's this year instead of 3's.

Yards: Hankerson
TD: Garcon

It's still early to base this on anything more than speculation, but I'll go with Garçon. I can see him having a big year. I'm really pulling for ey to have a good year, and hope that Fred Davis can keep out of trouble, but I agree with SkinsJock that the WR will see most of the yards while the TE mismatches will maintain drives with first downs.

I certainly look for a balanced attack this year with an offense that's designed to spread the ball around quite a bit. We should really be able to keep defenses guessing with any number of formations from 2 TE sets, as well as 3 or 4 WR options. We should be much harder to game plan against, especially if we can continue the success in the ground game that we were having at the end of last year. Not to mention the x factor that, if needed, our QB can tuck the ball and run with it.

I'm hoping RGIII can connect early on with a couple of those gorgeous bombs so that teams will no longer be able to stack the box or continuously send the house daring us to beat them deep.

One things for sure looking at this survey, there are quite a number of weapons in the arsenal. I'm excited to see a much more potent offense!

Fred Davis will score a lot. I think Garcon racks up a ton of catches and YAC. Neck & Neck

I am thinking ey will have the biggest impact because I think he is finally healed and will stretch the chains when needed, but AA will stretch the field when possible. He has so much speed and never had anyone that could lead a deep pass consistently.

Tough question to answer now. To me it will depend on who our new starter feels most comfortable with during training camp.....who will become RGIII's favorite target .....and who will be the go to guy (could be two different receivers). From that perspective, all of the pass catchers are on a level playing field.

I picked hankerson, but garcon could be that guy as well. From Shanahan's weekend comments, those two apparently will get reps on first team during camp and will have a better chance of forming that bond with RGIII.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Prowl33 wrote:and he is fully healthy and recovered now.

That has yet to be determined. The big test is OTA's. He hasn't really put a pounding on that knee yet.

According to Shanahan, it is.

Who is Fred David?

Based on that report aluded to by JSPB - RGIII is likely to have both ey and Davis

Davis has great ability and hopefully is anxious to show he's learned from his issues - ey has a great ability to get open

If I had to pick I'd take Davis but .....

Hopefully Moss can be used in the slot - that will help the passing game a lot



Having a decent QB changes EVERYTHING - it's hard not to expect a lot more from our passing game this season