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These guys look like the real deal. I'm watching them play the Mets right now and I like what I see. This team should be in the playoffs this year.

ATX_Skins wrote:These guys look like the real deal. I'm watching them play the Mets right now and I like what I see. This team should be in the playoffs this year.

I've waited so long for this. I saw the All-Star game in '69 at RFK. They say we didn't draw but we nearly topped a million when that meant something - while sucking. Now we have possibly the best pitching staff in the majors. If we can score just a little we will take the division and be scary in the postseason.

Go Nats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DarthMonk

This is the first season when I allowed myself to think about overall record. Before, I just hoped that the Nats would win about half their games, so I might have a 50/50 chance of seeing a win when I went to the stadium.

That stadium started as Griffith, about 1953 or '54, so I've seen a lot ovf losing teams.

And you are so right...given a half-decent team, as in 1960 or 1969, the Senators (or "Nats" if you prefer) will draw. Take a look at the 1960 team, which would ghave drawn a million fans in a stadium that had more than about 15,000 seats with a view of the field -- baseball capacity, about 25,000...including the bleachers and seats behind pillars.

As of today, April 12, Nats are 5 wins and 2 losses, even without Morse and Storen. This team will get better and better...

Are we kicking tail or what? Let's keep this goin', baby.

DarthMonk

DarthMonk wrote:Are we kicking tail or what? Let's keep this goin', baby.

I give it a week.

Deadskins wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:Are we kicking tail or what? Let's keep this goin', baby.

I give it a week.

I'm willing to bet we win 85 plus and think 90 is very realistic. We went 80-81 last year.

DarthMonk

Maybe worth a wild-card.

They'll lose in the first round to the Penguins...

Countertrey wrote:They'll lose in the first round to the Penguins...

Countertrey wrote:They'll lose in the first round to the Penguins...

Still mad that they traded Gil Coan for Roy Sievers?

As of 5:30 today, April 24, the team is 12 wins and 4 losses. Staff has the best ERA in baseball. Best relief pitcher and best power hitter are out until about the end of July. The 19-year-old super-kid, this generation's Harmon Killebrew, is having trouble hitting left-handed pitchers, so he's working on it in AAA. And when Chien Ming Wang returns, the team has no room for another top-tier starting pitcher.

So far, so good, and the rest of the season might even be better.

Nope... but I'm real fried about trading Rodriguez and Brinkman for the rights to Denny McClain...

The Nationals had built the National League’s best record on a steady diet of incredible pitching, one-run leads, antacid pills and chewed-off fingernails. Wednesday, after Jordan Zimmermann punched up their latest sparking start, the Nationals beat the San Diego Padres, 7-2, their largest margin of victory this season. In the first 13 victories, the team never won by more than four runs.

Weigh InCorrections?Recommend Tweet Personal Post .If the Nationals (14-4) wanted to add another nip-and-tuck win, Zimmermann made it possible. He allowed one run in six innings on four hits and no walks, which actually raised his ERA to 1.33, which actually ranks third among Nationals starters.

Before he allowed a home run in the fifth, Zimmermann extended the Nationals’ starting rotation’s scoreless streak to 26 innings, their longest such stretch since baseball returned to Washington. In 14 of 18 games this season, their starters have allowed two or fewer earned runs.

Just compared: as of tonight's victory over the Reds, the 2012 Nats have the same record after 33 games as the 1925 Nats: 21 - 12. They won the pennant in '25.

welch wrote:Just compared: as of tonight's victory over the Reds, the 2012 Nats have the same record after 33 games as the 1925 Nats: 21 - 12. They won the pennant in '25.

In the 1924 World Series, the Washington Senators beat the New York Giants in seven games. This was the second extra-inning World Series-deciding game (1912) and the last until 1991. The winning team of the 1991 World Series was the very same franchise, then (and now) known as the Minnesota Twins.

Walter Johnson, after pitching his first 20-victory season (23) since 1919, was making his first World Series appearance, at the age of 36, while nearing the end of his storied career with the Senators. He lost his two starts, but the Nats battled back to force a Game 7, giving Johnson a chance to redeem himself when he came on in relief in that game. Johnson held on to get the win and give Washington its first and only championship. The seventh game is widely considered to be one of the most dramatic games in Series history.

Johnson struck out twelve Giants batters in Game 1 in a losing cause. Although that total matched Ed Walsh's number in the 1906 World Series, it came in twelve innings. Johnson only struck out nine in the first nine innings.

In Game 7, with the Senators behind 3–1 in the eighth, Bucky Harris hit a routine ground ball to third which hit a pebble and took a bad hop over Giants third baseman Freddie Lindstrom. Two runners scored on the play, tying the score at three. Walter Johnson then came in to pitch the ninth, and held the Giants scoreless into extra innings. With the score still 3–3, Washington came up in the twelfth. With one out, and runners on first and second, Earl McNeely hit another grounder at Lindstrom, and again the ball took a bad hop, scoring Muddy Ruel with the Series-winning run.

~wiki

DarthMonk

DarthMonk wrote:The winning team of the 1991 World Series

The Braves were robbed!

Back to the Nats.

I watched the game last night. Obviously not their best pitcher (Wang) on the mound but the offense was out of control. 3 HR's lots of solid hitting and now the Nats are 4 games up in first place. Harper had his second 3 hit game, kid's on fire.

FYI, Stasburg is pitching tonight.

From the time I met CT back in elementary school until this year, I had never checked the standings to see if the Senators / Nats were near first place. Now...ha!!!

For all those years of Herbie Plews, Ralph Lumenti, Clint Courtney, all those strikeouts by Don Lock, now it is sweet.

I remember when Bob Short announced that he was scuttling off to someplace near Dallas, and George Allen announced that this season, 1971, the Redskins would make the playoffs. Everyone thought Old George was crazy, since the Skins had not been in a playoff game since the mid-40s...

"Baseball has insulted the Nation's Capital", George said, and the Redskins are going to lift this city". Crazy George, we said.

"The future is now", he said. And it was and has been for 40 years. Hail to the Redskins, let's go Nasty Nats!

They had a 3 game skid against the Yankees then the one hangover game against the Rays. I see them winning this next one then battling this weekend playing the Orioles.

welch wrote:From the time I met CT back in elementary school

You've known Countertrey since elementary school?

I was at Saturday's game vs Bmore. DC represented in the stands very nice. Had the whole family with me and the atmosphere was pretty good, also had the baby so couldn't stay past the 6th but glad we beat um.

Nationals need to step up the hitting big time. Everything else is in place. Problem is, hitting costs money. Money The Nats may not want to spend.

Deadskins wrote:

welch wrote:From the time I met CT back in elementary school

You've known Countertrey since elementary school?

Almost. I am slightly older (must admit), but we rode the same South Dakota Ave bus to Bunker Hill Elementary School. We both had Mrs. Cole, who taught us to read. CT lived on one side of South Dakota; I lived on the other. Probably stood at the same bus-stop. In fact, my sister had her tonsils out at the same hospital where CT was born, I think.

Hence, whenever things get too grim, or boring, I can insist that I told him the Redskin's QB should be Eddie LeBaron, while he backed Al Dorrow or maybe Jack Scarbath. (Everybody here should know Eddie LeBaron, but you have to love pain to remember Jack Scarbath and Al Dorrow.)

welch wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

welch wrote:From the time I met CT back in elementary school

You've known Countertrey since elementary school?

Almost. I am slightly older (must admit), but we rode the same South Dakota Ave bus to Bunker Hill Elementary School. We both had Mrs. Cole, who taught us to read. CT lived on one side of South Dakota; I lived on the other. Probably stood at the same bus-stop. In fact, my sister had her tonsils out at the same hospital where CT was born, I think.

Hence, whenever things get too grim, or boring, I can insist that I told him the Redskin's QB should be Eddie LeBaron, while he backed Al Dorrow or maybe Jack Scarbath. (Everybody here should know Eddie LeBaron, but you have to love pain to remember Jack Scarbath and Al Dorrow.)

He took my milk money... regularly. I have a calcium deficiency to this day. And, he sat on me until I said "SCARBATH!!" Bastage.

(you have to admit... Scarbath is one bad ass name)

Anyways... The Nats play the Rockies tonight so I'm fully expecting us to take a few games.

Countertrey wrote:

welch wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

welch wrote:From the time I met CT back in elementary school

You've known Countertrey since elementary school?

Almost. I am slightly older (must admit), but we rode the same South Dakota Ave bus to Bunker Hill Elementary School. We both had Mrs. Cole, who taught us to read. CT lived on one side of South Dakota; I lived on the other. Probably stood at the same bus-stop. In fact, my sister had her tonsils out at the same hospital where CT was born, I think.

Hence, whenever things get too grim, or boring, I can insist that I told him the Redskin's QB should be Eddie LeBaron, while he backed Al Dorrow or maybe Jack Scarbath. (Everybody here should know Eddie LeBaron, but you have to love pain to remember Jack Scarbath and Al Dorrow.)

He took my milk money... regularly. I have a calcium deficiency to this day. And, he sat on me until I said "SCARBATH!!" Bastage.

(you have to admit... Scarbath is one bad ass name)

What scares me most is that Jack Scarbath was a Heisman runner-up, and I think the Redskins had the second or third pick in the draft...someplace near the top. Don't want to start thinking about parallels, even if it might be nearly 60 years later.

And I never took your milk money!!