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Report: Manning Plan A, RG3 Plan B for Skins Citing a person with knowledge of the Redskins' planning, the Washington Post reports the team will go after Peyton Manning "aggressively" before turning to the Rams for the No. 2 overall pick.
Several sources assure the Post that the Redskins are "comfortable with the risks associated with signing Manning" and will "pursue him intently." NFL Network's Michael Lombardi lists the Redskins as his favorites to land Manning, though the Post concedes the Dolphins, Cardinals, and Jets may have a better shot. While the Skins have plenty of money to spend in free agency, we still believe Robert Griffin III is a better fit for the offense as well as the organization as a whole. Source: Washington Post Mar 7 - 11:21 AMPlayer Outlook

http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/2069 ... ntana-moss

if only we had heard this before somewhere...

I think he will be going to Miami. Wait, let me rephrase that. I hope he will be going to Miami.

In a perfect world ...

Peyton Manning will be with the Dolphins

AND

Matt Flynn will be with the Cleveland Browns



Robert Griffin III will be with the Redskins - who will also bring in a FA QB to handle the offense while RGIII gets ready to play

so we still need a free agent QB that can do a better job than Grossman

now that I think about it

we need a free agent QB to come in and handle this offense while RGIII gets ready to play - any QB will do a better job than Grossman

The NY JETS have already inquired about Manning.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-manning/

To think. Someone here thought Free Agency would be like unemployment for Peyton. He's already got Miami, NY, Arizona, Seattle, & allegedly the Redskins in the mix. Let the bidding war begin.

Peyton wins. Hey Jim Irsay "Good Luck" -- no pun intended.

SkinsJock wrote:In a perfect world ...

Peyton Manning will be with the Dolphins

AND

Matt Flynn will be with the Cleveland Browns



Robert Griffin III will be with the Redskins - who will also bring in a FA QB to handle the offense while RGIII gets ready to play

so we still need a free agent QB that can do a better job than Grossman

now that I think about it

we need a free agent QB to come in and handle this offense while RGIII gets ready to play - any QB will do a better job than Grossman

I really think what you said will, happen.

Archie Manning's fantasy: Peyton to the Jets. Giants and Jets in the Superbowl.

Look guys. I take a lot of flack around here for looking at things differently--usually from a practical business standpoint. In this case, consider this angle.

Maybe the Redskins are leaking this "interest" in Peyton Manning to gain some leverage in the Rams deal. If the market for the Rams pick is going to shrink, they will be more inclined to pull the trigger sooner. If the Rams think that the Skins could possibly fall out of the bidding. Then, they might not get as much in a trade with less teams competing for the pick. In business you have to manufacture leverage and/or a market.





Unnamed sources aka AGENTS do this all the time. They leak that they've talked to 5 teams when they really haven't to give the one team they want the impression that they're about to lose out. I don't see Shanahan, who famously didn't even talk to Cutler, allowing this Manning interest to get out unless there was an ulterior motive.

My prediction: The Redskins "intense interest" in Manning is a ruse to increase interest in the bidding for him by Miami, and possibly, Cleveland. This reduces the contenders for RG3, and may help reduce the price demanded by the Rams.

The Hogster wrote:Look guys. I take a lot of flack around here for looking at things differently--usually from a practical business standpoint. In this case, consider this angle.

Maybe the Redskins are leaking this "interest" in Peyton Manning to gain some leverage in the Rams deal. If the market for the Rams pick is going to shrink, they will be more inclined to pull the trigger sooner. If the Rams think that the Skins could possibly fall out of the bidding. Then, they might not get as much in a trade with less teams competing for the pick.

You were watching me prepare my post, weren't you? Admit it.

Countertrey wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Look guys. I take a lot of flack around here for looking at things differently--usually from a practical business standpoint. In this case, consider this angle.

Maybe the Redskins are leaking this "interest" in Peyton Manning to gain some leverage in the Rams deal. If the market for the Rams pick is going to shrink, they will be more inclined to pull the trigger sooner. If the Rams think that the Skins could possibly fall out of the bidding. Then, they might not get as much in a trade with less teams competing for the pick.

You were watching me prepare my post, weren't you? Admit it.

Nice. I was just thinking the same thing.

Keep in mind, also... Bruce Allen learned all about subterfuge from one of the best... his dad.

Countertrey wrote:Keep in mind, also... Bruce Allen learned all about subterfuge from one of the best... his dad.

And his brother George.

Politics as usual.

I am not afraid to say it. I would welcome Manning to the Skins with open arms. I mean whos to say we dont get Manning and RG3? Why not go for the now and the future! Not likely but not impossible.

The no.1 reason why we should bring Manning in. Manning would automatically make the Skins a winning team again. He would change the culture with his play and leadership. We need a star player who can actually get it done. There is no other player I can think of who could instantly bring success. His work ethic is legendary.

The rewards outweigh the risks. How you say?

Well let me see. Just because you bring in Manning does not mean we cant get RG3. If Snyder, Allen and Shanny go all out. Getting Manning and RG3 is not out of the question.

If signed before the draft. Manning could also be used as trade bait. What team wouldnt stop and think about a deal involving Manning?

We need a field general badly. Who better then future hall of famer Peyton?

As for me. I want Peyton Manning and RG3. I think we as fans deserve to get this. Maybe asking for too much? Ah.. maybe? Just a thought.

No team is going to bring in Manning... and use him for trade bait. The team that gets him will do so because they offer the most money. That will mean a big contract. If you want Manning, and don't win him outright... it's because you weren't willing to pay what he wanted, and ultimately, got.

In other words... why would anyone trade for him, when they could have gotten him outright, for the cost of the contract... without having to give up anything else?????

Countertrey wrote:No team is going to bring in Manning... and use him for trade bait. The team that gets him will do so because they offer the most money. That will mean a big contract. If you want Manning, and don't win him outright... it's because you weren't willing to pay what he wanted, and ultimately, got.

In other words... why would anyone trade for him, when they could have gotten him outright, for the cost of the contract... without having to give up anything else?????

Well I did say not likely.

However it is not just a financial matter. Manning is going to choose whatever situation is best for him. Not necessarily the highest bidder.
I think it would be safe to say any team who is planning on signing him will have similar contract offers at least within the same ball park.

Yes I agree any team signing Manning has the intentions of Manning being the starter. I am just saying there are many scenerios that could play out. Some likely and some not likely. Signing manning as trade bait is certainly unlikely. However if you sign Manning "technically" you can use him as trade bait you have that option before the draft. Ah nevermind Manning would probably have a no trade clause. Hypothetically speaking he may not though?

Bottom line is I dont mind bringing in Manning.

Countertrey wrote:My prediction: The Redskins "intense interest" in Manning is a ruse to increase interest in the bidding for him by Miami, and possibly, Cleveland. This reduces the contenders for RG3, and may help reduce the price demanded by the Rams.

If Miami and Cleveland pick up Manning and Flynn in Free Agency, we have no need to trade up. No one else has the ammo to trade up to #2. The Rams don't want RG III. The Vikings don't want him. Cleveland will have solved their need for QB and can pick up Trent Richardson. We'll be sitting pretty.

The Hogster wrote:Look guys. I take a lot of flack around here for looking at things differently--usually from a practical business standpoint. In this case, consider this angle.

Maybe the Redskins are leaking this "interest" in Peyton Manning to gain some leverage in the Rams deal. If the market for the Rams pick is going to shrink, they will be more inclined to pull the trigger sooner. If the Rams think that the Skins could possibly fall out of the bidding. Then, they might not get as much in a trade with less teams competing for the pick. In business you have to manufacture leverage and/or a market.

Unnamed sources aka AGENTS do this all the time. They leak that they've talked to 5 teams when they really haven't to give the one team they want the impression that they're about to lose out. I don't see Shanahan, who famously didn't even talk to Cutler, allowing this Manning interest to get out unless there was an ulterior motive.

I've been thinking the same. Manning just doesn't fit with what we are building. Our offense doesn't fit, the coaching staff doesn't fit, the grass doesn't fit, the weapons don't fit. This has to be a smoke screen. But so is saying that a 2nd rounder is out of the question in a trade for the 2nd pick with the Rams. Just as the Browns are saying they will not trade the 22nd pick.

Really, Manning needs us as much as we need him in these negotiations. He dances with us long enough to get the price down for the 2nd pick, and we dance with him long enough to get him more money with another team. Just don't get caught standing when the music stops.

The Hogster wrote:Look guys. I take a lot of flack around here for looking at things differently--usually from a practical business standpoint

Wow, that's it exactly. I'd been trying to put my finger on it and once again, you just nailed it.

But seriously, given that everyone plays us in their negotiations to get leverage, we'd have to be morons not to use our own rep to our advantage as well. Shannahan doesn't seem the type to be leaking accurate information.

Don't be shocked if Peyton goes to Dallas....

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Don't be shocked if Peyton goes to Dallas....

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Don't be shocked if Peyton goes to Dallas....

Called that one a while back. My top 3 are Arizona, Jets, Cowgirls.

If the Cowgirls I say we put a bounty out on Manning. What the heck, let's rip his helmet off again. Doctors say no additional risk, right?



DarthMonk

You got it, Kaz - There is NO WAY that the fans or media should place any credence at all OR believe what Mike Shanahan says ...

ESPECIALLY in the months of February & March

The Hogster wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Keep in mind, also... Bruce Allen learned all about subterfuge from one of the best... his dad.

And his brother George.

No, that's where he learned what the heck a "macaca" is.

riggofan wrote:

The Hogster wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Keep in mind, also... Bruce Allen learned all about subterfuge from one of the best... his dad.

And his brother George.

No, that's where he learned what the heck a "macaca" is.

Easy, easy. That's the starting line to bumpy road.