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What moves do you think we plan on making in free agency? Its a pretty talented and healthy free agency class this year. What positions should we focus on, who specifically should we get for those positions?

With free agency around the corner, I think its very hard to predict the draft until it hits, who knows what all these teams get, and how that may change the price of that #2 pick, among other things.

Aite Prowler... you made the post so go ahead and attach a list of this years free agent players bro! Give us info and we'll discuss it!

Yes, I know its not Prowler, but you've been nicknamed in the Joebonics dictionary.

Now get to work!!

Prowl33 wrote:What moves do you think we plan on making in free agency? Its a pretty talented and healthy free agency class this year. What positions should we focus on, who specifically should we get for those positions?

With free agency around the corner, I think its very hard to predict the draft until it hits, who knows what all these teams get, and how that may change the price of that #2 pick, among other things.

I'm hoping we do this:

1) Finish the trade for RG3 before free agency so we know it's done.

2) Treat free agency more like the draft and focus on solid players that fill the roster and don't break the bank, with maybe 1 or 2 big signings since we have the cap. I'd like to see use spend the bigger signings on an O-lineman (LT or RG) and a WR.

3) Draft for talent and not position with the few picks we have left over the next two years.

langleyparkjoe wrote:Aite Prowler... you made the post so go ahead and attach a list of this years free agent players bro! Give us info and we'll discuss it!

Yes, I know its not Prowler, but you've been nicknamed in the Joebonics dictionary.

Now get to work!!

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KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Prowl33 wrote:What moves do you think we plan on making in free agency? Its a pretty talented and healthy free agency class this year. What positions should we focus on, who specifically should we get for those positions?

With free agency around the corner, I think its very hard to predict the draft until it hits, who knows what all these teams get, and how that may change the price of that #2 pick, among other things.

I'm hoping we do this:

1) Finish the trade for RG3 before free agency so we know it's done.

2) Treat free agency more like the draft and focus on solid players that fill the roster and don't break the bank, with maybe 1 or 2 big signings since we have the cap. I'd like to see use spend the bigger signings on an O-lineman (LT or RG) and a WR.

3) Draft for talent and not position with the few picks we have left over the next two years.

100% on board with this. It would cost us a bit more to complete the trade before Free agency, but I think it would work to our advantage to lure free agents here. It would be much easier to grab a top notch WR if we had our QB situation settled with Griff

I think a solid WR through FA is a priority. Maybe Vincent Jackson.

Also, I see Ben Grubbs looks like he might test the waters. I could see the Danny beating Baltimore out to replace Lichtensteiger.

Maybe Brandon Carr from the Chiefs?

Ok i'll take a stab at it.

WR-either one of these 2
Pierre Garcon - young guy with a long career ahead. put up really good numbers with a really bad team and bad QB.
Dwayne Bowe- Game changing receiver, very physical with a knack at getting to the ball
if not these too also look at (Colston, Jackson, Lloyd)

OL -Carl Nicks, Ben Grubbs

DB - Cortland Finnegan

We can probabky pick up some other consistent players for depth, but thats the big names i would like to see

Prowl33 wrote:Ok i'll take a stab at it.

WR-either one of these 2
Pierre Garcon - young guy with a long career ahead. put up really good numbers with a really bad team and bad QB.
Dwayne Bowe- Game changing receiver, very physical with a knack at getting to the ball
if not these too also look at (Colston, Jackson, Lloyd)

OL -Carl Nicks, Ben Grubbs

DB - Cortland Finnegan

We can probabky pick up some other consistent players for depth, but thats the big names i would like to see

NO to Lloyd!!

Prowl33 wrote:Ok i'll take a stab at it.

WR-either one of these 2
Pierre Garcon - young guy with a long career ahead. put up really good numbers with a really bad team and bad QB.
Dwayne Bowe- Game changing receiver, very physical with a knack at getting to the ball
if not these too also look at (Colston, Jackson, Lloyd)

I keep forgetting about Garcon. Good one. Bowe is going to get tagged, but I'd be up for Colston too. I don't think we'll see Lloyd in a Redskins helmet again.

D-Jax is an option as well.. Ill see if I can find a decent list since prowler aint doin his hw

* I know DeSean isn't as tall as some of those guys mentioned and his sissy fit was frowned upon.. BUT he has utter hatred for the pukes and fecals w the skins being not nearly as hated. The chance to stick it to them in the division twice a year and make a name in the B&G is a good notion. Another plus side besides his blazing speed- as a Brandon Banks supporter (w about forty ko/punt tds on Madden) - he also allows us to trade BB (st Louis?) and free up a roster spot.
Might not be a great idea but his ability to beat dbs can't be over looked

http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html

Here's a link. Bein on my cell itd be a royal pita to make up a good list. They got em all by position if anyone is bored.

chiefhog44 wrote:It would cost us a bit more to complete the trade before Free agency, but I think it would work to our advantage to lure free agents here

Good point on the luring free agents. I agree having Griffin would help do that.

Normally it's true that trades are better made on draft day when the team is on the clock so you know the player you want is available, but in this case since it's the #2 pick and #1 and #2 are both going to be elite QB's, I think it's better for both us and the Rams to do the deal before free agency because it would give us both the advantage in Free agency of knowing where we stand for the draft. In this case, if Griffin's not there, we know Luck would be. Either way we know we're drafting a QB.

Let me counter that argument by saying, wouldn't it make sense to wait to see where the FA QB's go...like to the Browns to see that there won't be as much compensation required. That's why it's better to wait to see who's where and who's available. You have all the info then vs pure speculation.

frankcal20 wrote:Let me counter that argument by saying, wouldn't it make sense to wait to see where the FA QB's go...like to the Browns to see that there won't be as much compensation required. That's why it's better to wait to see who's where and who's available. You have all the info then vs pure speculation.

I can't see it. Who would we be interested in on the free market ahead of doing the Griffin deal? I see all of them as people we pursue if and only if we can't get Griffin. Who do you have in mind exactly? The only issue I see is we sign a QB who's an upgrade, then we do get Griffin.

I think he meant Flynn goes here Payton there thus taking team a and b out of the bidding and possibly lowering the total # of picks we give up to st Louis for RGIII.
That's how I read it at least

exactly

riggofan wrote:I think a solid WR through FA is a priority. Maybe Vincent Jackson.

Also, I see Ben Grubbs looks like he might test the waters. I could see the Danny beating Baltimore out to replace Lichtensteiger.

Maybe Brandon Carr from the Chiefs?

Yep a true number 1 wide out. Moss is slipping a little he is getting old. I want him here for a couple of more years or how ever long he can keep going. He and Gaf need help. I wouldn't mind a bruiser running back but I fear we wont get one. Linebackers. We need someone to back up the middle linebacker spot. Someone still young with size. Safety. We need another free safety.

cowboykillerzRED wrote:I think he meant Flynn goes here Payton there thus taking team a and b out of the bidding and possibly lowering the total # of picks we give up to st Louis for RGIII.
That's how I read it at least

OK, I see. On the flip side, if we don't sign a QB then the Rams could know they have us by the gonads and raise the price knowing if we don't Griffin we are in serious trouble at QB.

Not at all actually. It's supply vs demand. Right now, Griffin is the supply and there is great demand in the market place. If you reduce the demand (ie - less teams with QB needs) then the price for said supply will be reduced b/c there are less interested parties.

frankcal20 wrote:Not at all actually. It's supply vs demand. Right now, Griffin is the supply and there is great demand in the market place. If you reduce the demand (ie - less teams with QB needs) then the price for said supply will be reduced b/c there are less interested parties.

I understand what you are saying. Very much like scalping tickets. Usually, tickets sell out and you can find them at skyrocket prices months out from scalpers. They start really dropping in price as you get close to the show. If you're like me, you usually wait and go to the show to buy them for face or lower. But, like scalping, it's very unlikely that you're going to sit in as an ideal location as you would have if you paid the extra money, and sometimes, you show up to buy on the day of and you can't find any tickets at all

I think you pay to make sure you get what you want in this situation. Don't play any games. Just my opinion.

frankcal20 wrote:Not at all actually. It's supply vs demand. Right now, Griffin is the supply and there is great demand in the market place. If you reduce the demand (ie - less teams with QB needs) then the price for said supply will be reduced b/c there are less interested parties.

I see it exactly opposite, since there are many teams interested in RG3 and only one RG3 to go around ... so long as there are alternatives out there (like Manning and Flynn), that might keep some of them from being overly aggressive with offers to trade up. But, as those FA's sign and are taken out of play, that #2 pick becomes more and more valuable as alternatives are eliminated.

Clearly, whoever signs Manning and Flynn would obviously take those two teams out of the running, but that leaves everyone else needing a QB that much more desperate with fewer options other than lose out, or trade up.

The Redskins would do well to recognize early, their own desperate situation (and I think signs point to that being the case, thank God) and be aggressive early, and try and lock down that pick so that they can then refocus on other FA positions. And with the #2 locked up and a guarantee of either Luck or RG3 on the team, that will make it easier to sign a top FA WR too.

The closer we get to draft day, the more the desperation builds, the higher the price tag for that #2 pick will be. The longer this lasts, the more oportunity for a bidding war ... even if it's just involves two or three teams.

Prowl33 wrote:Ok i'll take a stab at it.

WR-either one of these 2
Pierre Garcon - young guy with a long career ahead. put up really good numbers with a really bad team and bad QB.
Dwayne Bowe- Game changing receiver, very physical with a knack at getting to the ball
if not these too also look at (Colston, Jackson, Lloyd)

OL -Carl Nicks, Ben Grubbs

DB - Cortland Finnegan

We can probabky pick up some other consistent players for depth, but thats the big names i would like to see

I think its almost a lock for

Lloyd: New England (Mcdaniels)

finnegan: Rams (fisher- relationship)

frankcal20 wrote:Not at all actually. It's supply vs demand. Right now, Griffin is the supply and there is great demand in the market place. If you reduce the demand (ie - less teams with QB needs) then the price for said supply will be reduced b/c there are less interested parties.

All the Rams need is two teams on draft day to need a qb and want trade up to #2 in order to drive up the price.

This is a free agency topic people not a RG3 topic!!!

Whoever mentioned needing a RB I think is incorrect. I believe we have 3 good and capable running backs that can get us 120yards a game with a decent pass game and decent o-line. A heftier back would be nice, but if we have good receivers and tight ends, then passing close to the goal line could be the better option anyway.

I think we only have two real RBs on the roster. I'm sure Hightower is a FA and think he may end up in Pitt.

If I'm a betting man, I'll take the bet the Skins get their WR's in FA but I don't think it's going to be Jackson based on the TYPE of players we've brought in last year especially after DMac and Haynesworth. So no Jackson with his DUI's and contract hold outs in season's past.