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So just read from Todd McShay that the Bengals might be interested in trading up to get Trent Richardson. They have the 17th and the 21st picks in the first round.

If Skins identify Tannehill as their guy, Bengals might make a nice trading partner. They could get a lineman (decastro?) or receiver (floyd, jeffries) at 17, and then pick up Tannehill at 21.

I checked the draft pick trade value chart, and the Skins pick is worth 1,600 points, and the two Cincy pick are worth 1,750...

Intriguing if Trent Richardson makes it to 6.

The Hogster wrote:Intriguing if Trent Richardson makes it to 6.

If he doesn't then Blackmon or RG3 would probably still be on the board. If RG3 isn't there then i would jump at that trade scenario.

Very interesting...

Skeletor wrote:So just read from Todd McShay that the Bengals might be interested in trading up to get Trent Richardson. They have the 17th and the 21st picks in the first round.

If Skins identify Tannehill as their guy, Bengals might make a nice trading partner. They could get a lineman (decastro?) or receiver (floyd, jeffries) at 17, and then pick up Tannehill at 21.

I checked the draft pick trade value chart, and the Skins pick is worth 1,600 points, and the two Cincy pick are worth 1,750...

That would be optimal, assuming we have no shot at RGIII, and Decastro and Tannehill would be a nice score. Tannehill most definitely would have to sit and learn for a while as he is raw. If this is what transpires, then and only then am I ok with bringing Manning in here. I wouldn't mind Osweiler either over Tannehill. If Cincy wants the deal to be a little more even because of the difference in the value chart, throw them one of our 4th rounders and say take it or leave it.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Intriguing if Trent Richardson makes it to 6.

If he doesn't then Blackmon or RG3 would probably still be on the board. If RG3 isn't there then i would jump at that trade scenario.

+1

I have been an advocate of a scenario like this. Tanenhill is going to be an excellent QB in my opinion. And, it wouldn't hurt to add 3 players in the Top 38 picks instead of 1 or 2.

And, before the Gaggle of RG3 supporters ask for my head, let it be known that I love RG3 and believe he's going to be a great pro as well. But, I understand that these "trade up" scenarios have a lot of moving parts beyond our control. As a result, we can't sit around yelling trade up every day as if it's a birth right.

I think this is a trade you ahve to have in your back pocket and as with any trade, adjust on the fly. This trade could happen for Richardson or Claiborne. The Bengals need both positions badly filled, and I think it becomes very likely if there are no trades in the top 5. This is how I see it going.

Luck - Ind
Kalil - STL
Reiff - Min
RGIII - Cle

That leaves Richardson, Blackmon, and Claiborne for TB. So in this scenario, Richardson or Claiborne or both fall to us. I'm not sold on Tannelhill though. His tape is just not that impressive. Point me to video that proves otherwise, but I feel like I've watched a ton already.

Heck yeah. If RGIII isn't there for us, and we can trade the #6 for two first round picks, I'm all over it. Let's hope we have some options like this come draft day.

Skeletor wrote:So just read from Todd McShay that the Bengals might be interested in trading up to get Trent Richardson. They have the 17th and the 21st picks in the first round.

If Skins identify Tannehill as their guy, Bengals might make a nice trading partner. They could get a lineman (decastro?) or receiver (floyd, jeffries) at 17, and then pick up Tannehill at 21.

I checked the draft pick trade value chart, and the Skins pick is worth 1,600 points, and the two Cincy pick are worth 1,750...

TAKE IT !!!!

sold

I agree. Get Tannehill with 17. At 21 and 38 get a WR & OL.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Intriguing if Trent Richardson makes it to 6.

If he doesn't then Blackmon or RG3 would probably still be on the board. If RG3 isn't there then i would jump at that trade scenario.

Yes, this would appear to give us options. Options that we are in desperate need of.

I like it.

this must be too good to be true... not a single dissenter yet!

fredp45 wrote:I agree. Get Tannehill with 17. At 21 and 38 get a WR & OL.

you do understand that we're going to get a good WR thru free agency right?
when you look at what we have and you add that player, why are we drafting another WR so high

we are also most likely adding a really good player(s) to the offensive line, but we'll need depth there for sure

taking a RB in the top 10 is moronic; trading UP into the top ten for a RB is ultramonic. the Bungles've had some good drafts recently but i guess if any team were dumb enough to do such a thing it could still be them.

die cowboys die wrote:taking a RB in the top 10 is moronic; trading UP into the top ten for a RB is ultramonic. the Bungles've had some good drafts recently but i guess if any team were dumb enough to do such a thing it could still be them.

I don't disagree with you. They were pretty competitive last season though. Maybe they're thinking they can afford to go after a real home run hitter RB to put them over the top or something.

Whatever - I'd be happy to see the Skins benefit from a move like that!

This is the ideal situation we would be looking for. I am of the opinion that either RGIII or Richardson (but not both) will be available at the #6 pick.

That trade would be ideal. We need to get as many high quality players as possible in this upcoming draft. This is the precise way to do so.

I also totally agree with die cowboys die. Anyone dumb enough to draft an RB in the top ten may also just be stupid enough to make that trade.

I'm totally on board with this sort of move.

We had an excellent draft last year. If you follow it up with this scenario, it opens alot of options for next years draft.(2013)
That way, if you needed to trade picks away for that 1 missing peice that puts you over the top, it doesn't kill the future. (QB,MLB,CB)

die cowboys die wrote:taking a RB in the top 10 is moronic; trading UP into the top ten for a RB is ultramonic. the Bungles've had some good drafts recently but i guess if any team were dumb enough to do such a thing it could still be them.

Normally I would agree with you, but you make exceptions for the best RB to hit the draft since Adrian Peterson, especially when you grabbed your franchise QB and WR the year before. Richardson is a bonafide stud and does not have a lot of mileage on him either. RB is a big need for the Bengals as well.

PAPDOG67 wrote:

die cowboys die wrote:taking a RB in the top 10 is moronic; trading UP into the top ten for a RB is ultramonic. the Bungles've had some good drafts recently but i guess if any team were dumb enough to do such a thing it could still be them.

Normally I would agree with you, but you make exceptions for the best RB to hit the draft since Adrian Peterson, especially when you grabbed your franchise QB and WR the year before. Richardson is a bonafide stud and does not have a lot of mileage on him either. RB is a big need for the Bengals as well.

I hope they aree with you. Trading two first round picks for a RB would just be absolutely nuts! I hope they do it.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

PAPDOG67 wrote:

die cowboys die wrote:taking a RB in the top 10 is moronic; trading UP into the top ten for a RB is ultramonic. the Bungles've had some good drafts recently but i guess if any team were dumb enough to do such a thing it could still be them.

Normally I would agree with you, but you make exceptions for the best RB to hit the draft since Adrian Peterson, especially when you grabbed your franchise QB and WR the year before. Richardson is a bonafide stud and does not have a lot of mileage on him either. RB is a big need for the Bengals as well.

I hope they aree with you. Trading two first round picks for a RB would just be absolutely nuts! I hope they do it.

That would never ever happen under shanahan. New topic

die cowboys die wrote:taking a RB in the top 10 is moronic

In the last 10 years, here are the RBs taken in the top 10:

Reggie Bush
Cadillac Williams
Cedric Benson
Ronnie Brown
LaDainian Tomlinson
Darren McFadden
Adrian Peterson

That's at least as good a hit/miss ratio for solid contributors, with all pro players mixed in, as you will find in any other position where teams draft in the top 10.

So, I call bull crap on that rule of thumb.

trading UP into the top ten for a RB is ultramonic.

I'd say that depends a lot more on team needs and the talent available.

In general it's not a great idea — in the same way that drafting a guard or middle linebacker in the top 10 is not a good idea — because you can often find the talent in later rounds and because a good offensive system/line will benefit an RB more than other positions. But clearly the teams that do it have benefited more often than not.