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Rogers Talks About Time with Redskins

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:48 pm
by CanesSkins26
SANTA CLARA, Calif. – As Carlos Rogers slumped into his locker Thursday afternoon at the San Francisco 49ers’ training facility, he looked around and slowly grinned that full-on, top-to-bottom white-tooth grin that was once prominent in Washington, but is only now reappearing. “This would be like a normal day in Washington,” he said, surveying the media corps, which has ballooned considerably given the 49ers’ appearance in Sunday’s NFC championship game against the New York Giants.

“But I’m chill, man,” Rogers said. “Real chill.”

It is almost too easy a task to track down former Redskins and ask them to compare their current situations to those in Washington. Others have left Ashburn and found success elsewhere – Brandon Lloyd in Denver and St. Louis, Ryan Clark in Pittsburgh, Andre Carter in New England, on and on.

Rogers is the latest, and currently greatest, example. The ninth overall pick in the 2005 draft by Joe Gibbs’s Redskins, he made eight interceptions in six years in Washington, dropped countless more, was occasionally benched by former defensive coordinator Greg Blache, and wasn’t as consistent as current coach Mike Shanahan would have liked. On a one-year deal with the 49ers, perhaps the best defensive team in the league, he had six interceptions, was versatile enough to use both outside and in the slot, earned his first Pro Bowl berth, and is about to play for the right to go to the Super Bowl.

So sit back, 2,400 miles away from Ashburn, chill – and smile.

“I needed a fresh start,” Rogers said. “I wanted that, my last two years, out of Washington.”

Rogers’s final two seasons with the Redskins were after Gibbs and former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams were gone. Rogers doesn’t remember those times – the chaos of Jim Zorn’s final season as head coach, then the tumult of Shanahan overhauling the roster and the mind-set – fondly. He said he was tired of it all, “everything that goes on around there.”

“Coach Zorn, he didn’t really have control of that team,” Rogers said. “He just was that coach that they all of a sudden picked as a fill-in. He wasn’t the coach that they really wanted. That’s why he was gone after two years.

“With Coach Shanahan there, all that stuff sounds good – his record, his track record. But I wasn’t a big fan of that whole thing that was going on in Washington.”

Why? He sighed.

“It was probably more me just wanting to be out of there,” Rogers said. “It probably didn’t have nothing to do with them. I was just ready to leave.”

So he left, though not for the kind of deal he once envisioned – a one-year contract worth $2.125 million, with a $2.125 million signing bonus. The 49ers, entering training camp, were a team in transition as well, with new coach Jim Harbaugh hiring a new staff and installing both a new system and a new attitude. The easy question, then: Compare his former organization to his new one.

“This is more solid from the top to the bottom,” Rogers said. “You got ownership – great ownership – that interacts with the players. The GM’s the same way. The coach is a head coach. He understands us. He played in this league. He’s been in the same team meetings that we’re in. He understands what it takes to get a player going, what’s too much for a player, how to push those right buttons. And it’s been working, because we got everybody in.”

That was not the way it was in Washington, Rogers said, nor is it to this day. During an interview Thursday, he repeatedly referred to “stuff going on” with the Redskins, the general day-to-day drama that defined the team for much of his tenure, the unsettled environment Shanahan is trying to eliminate.

“People say I wasn’t happy,” he said. “It’s just because I spoke out. But it was the truth. It was the truth. And I’m gone. So what is it now? It’s still stuff going on. I know the guys on the team, so many guys is ready to leave. So many guys.”

Rogers, though, is ready to stay in San Francisco. He said he has talked to the coaching staff about wanting to return, and they want him back, but he will leave contract talks to his agent, and after the season. His importance to the 49ers’ success – an NFC-low 14.3 points allowed per game – has been acknowledged all year. Harbaugh called him a “get-him-down tackler.” Defensive coordinator Vic Fangio said Rogers’s versatility makes San Francisco more dangerous, especially because he essentially plays what looks like a linebacker spot in the 49ers’ nickel package.

“He’s kind of the guy that keeps it all together up front there,” Fangio said.

With that has come praise, from near and far. Rogers said numerous opposing coaches – “Coaches I’ve never even said a word to,” he said – have approached him during pregame warm-ups to congratulate him on a fine season. New Orleans’s Sean Payton was the latest, chatting in the hours before the 49ers dispatched the Saints from the playoffs last week.

“It’s so crazy when you’re in an organization, where other coaches and other players see how good you are, see the potential, and your own organization that you’ve been with for six years don’t do the right stuff to get that out of a player,” Rogers said. “I’ve had so many coaches saying: ‘You’ve had an incredible year. I know you’re glad to be out of Washington because there’s so much stuff going on.’ It was amazing, just the respect factor.”

Rogers looked around his locker room, where teammate after teammate conducted interviews before Sunday’s game. Win that one, and he’s in the Super Bowl. Lose it, and he goes to Hawaii for the Pro Bowl on Jan. 29. He smiled again.

“I wanted this in Washington,” Rogers said. “I didn’t want to be bouncing around from team to team. It didn’t work out in Washington. I got another chance, and it’s working out.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/giants-vs-49ers-carlos-rogers-discovers-there-is-life-after-the-redskins/2012/01/20/gIQAkXnnDQ_story.html

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:21 pm
by SkinsJock
Thanks Canes - far as I'm concerned that about says it all

this guy actually was more interested in getting out than he was in trying to play and practice as hard as he could

I hope that the 49ers win a Super Bowl - he'll be wrong in thinking they couldn't have done it without him


we do not need any players that don't want to be here

all the best - se ya


I could care less about this guy

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:40 pm
by frankcal20
He's a hell of a player and how smart of him for only signing a one year deal. You know that he's going to get his payday now. Let's just see if he can keep it up after the pockets get heavy.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:42 pm
by The Hogster
I wonder what guys want out now? Let them leave.

Re: Rogers Talks About Time with Redskins

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:51 pm
by Deadskins
I know the guys on the team, so many guys is ready to leave. So many guys.

That's bothersome. I wonder if it's true.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:06 pm
by Irn-Bru
Interesting things communicated by Rogers in that interview.

I have to disagree with whoever wrote it that it's "too easy" to pick out names of players who've had success once they could break free from Washington. If it's so easy, then why pick a guy who left 7 years ago, a receiver who's played on 3 different teams (and been cut from 2), and an aging DE that didn't fit the system here? How is that "too easy"?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:54 pm
by frankcal20
couldn't you say everyone is "aging?"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:23 pm
by Hooligan
No mention of why he couldn't hold onto a football while he was here. I think someone here once said they tried getting his autograph during training camp, but he kept dropping the pen.

I'm sure it was the rest of the team's fault, right Carlos?

Re: Rogers Talks About Time with Redskins

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:14 pm
by DarthMonk
Deadskins wrote:
I know the guys on the team, so many guys is ready to leave. So many guys.

That's bothersome. I wonder if it's true.


The only line in the article that really mattered to me.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:24 pm
by gibbsfan
The Hogster wrote:I wonder what guys want out now? Let them leave.


+1

Re: Rogers Talks About Time with Redskins

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:19 pm
by SkinsJock
Deadskins wrote:
I know the guys on the team, so many guys is ready to leave. So many guys.

That's bothersome. I wonder if it's true.


ya think :shock:

any player that wants out just needs to stop making any effort like Rogers did - think about it - Rogers did not want to be here - he's now in Frisco - we're better off and he's better off

we do not need players that cannot or will not do what they're being paid to do

What's wrong with just having players that want to play & practice as hard as they can - be the best they can be

please explain that part to me - I'm missing something :lol:

Re: Rogers Talks About Time with Redskins

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:23 pm
by SkinsJock
DarthMonk wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
I know the guys on the team, so many guys is ready to leave. So many guys.

That's bothersome. I wonder if it's true.

The only line in the article that really mattered to me.


do you really place ANY credence on what this guy is saying - really?
ya gotta be kidding me - do ya think this guy has an axe to grind?

give me a break - hopefully any player that wants out just stops practicing and playing - he'll be gone in a heartbeat :lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:33 pm
by CanesSkins26
The Hogster wrote:I wonder what guys want out now? Let them leave.


Grant Paulsen was saying on 980 that Landry is one of those guys.

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:23 am
by TimSkin
CanesSkins26 wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I wonder what guys want out now? Let them leave.


Grant Paulsen was saying on 980 that Landry is one of those guys.



Let him leave in FA then......He's a great talent but always hurt and Gomes played pretty good in his spot. I love dirty 30 but it's his choice if he wants to leave. Also with Rogers saying all these players want to leave well then why didn't Santana bolt last year also????? He could have very easily gone somewhere else for the same amount of dough but he stayed. We need more guys with attitudes like Moss and Fletch(who we hopefully resign for a few more years) Anyways just thought I would throw in my 2 cents

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:47 am
by frankcal20
CanesSkins26 wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I wonder what guys want out now? Let them leave.


Grant Paulsen was saying on 980 that Landry is one of those guys.


If I'm the Skins, I get a gauge on what type of compensation folks would offer, tag him and then trade him. I think we could possibly do something in STL being that Greg Williams is now their D-Cord and he drafted Landry.

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:08 am
by Kilmer72
TimSkin wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I wonder what guys want out now? Let them leave.


Grant Paulsen was saying on 980 that Landry is one of those guys.



Let him leave in FA then......He's a great talent but always hurt and Gomes played pretty good in his spot. I love dirty 30 but it's his choice if he wants to leave. Also with Rogers saying all these players want to leave well then why didn't Santana bolt last year also????? He could have very easily gone somewhere else for the same amount of dough but he stayed. We need more guys with attitudes like Moss and Fletch(who we hopefully resign for a few more years) Anyways just thought I would throw in my 2 cents


I wasn't impressed with Gomes. He did ok for a rookie. He also got run over way too many times. If Landry leaves I am ok with it unless he lands a job with an NFC East opponent. He will probably land in the pro bowl and be injury free for the rest of his career if he leaves.

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:13 am
by SkinsJock
I like Landry, but, if he's not TOTALLY committed to playing here I hope he's not playing here

I hope he plays really great somewhere else and ends up in the HOF

We do not need ANY players that are not REALLY, TOTALLY committed to the players and coaches around them

this is a win win situation - the player gets to go where he wants and we get players that want to be here

Re: Rogers Talks About Time with Redskins

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:16 am
by DarthMonk
SkinsJock wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
I know the guys on the team, so many guys is ready to leave. So many guys.

That's bothersome. I wonder if it's true.

The only line in the article that really mattered to me.


do you really place ANY credence on what this guy is saying - really?


Just a little. If true, it sucks. If false, no worries.

SkinsJock wrote:ya gotta be kidding me -


Nope.

SkinsJock wrote:do ya think this guy has an axe to grind?


Probably.

SkinsJock wrote:give me a break -


OK. Break given.

SkinsJock wrote:hopefully any player that wants out just stops practicing and playing - he'll be gone in a heartbeat :lol:


+1

Actually, what would be waaaaaaaaaaay better is if such a guy asked Shanny for a meeting and simply said "I want out."

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:07 pm
by Countertrey
My view on Carlos' ramblings...

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:20 pm
by SkinsJock
I'm with you DM - I just cannot stand players that moan about their 'status' or situation with an NFL franchise
then when they leave the team they claim they never really tried very hard

as far as our franchise is concerned - I hope these coaches evaluate each and every player
ANYONE that does not want to be here should be let go


this franchise is going to be one that players want to be a part of .... AND soon
I hope we get rid of those that don't want to help here

just a guess

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:57 pm
by yajexyage
I don't believe a word carlos says but if true I'd guess..
Hall
Landry
Rocky

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:23 pm
by Irn-Bru
Countertrey wrote:My view on Carlos' ramblings...


Brilliant! I couldn't have put it any better than this.

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:29 pm
by Irn-Bru
What this interview tells us is that Carlos was getting in his own way. Things are going well for him in SF now, but anyone who displayed that kind of immaturity anywhere in the NFL is always a kind of ticking time bomb. Nevertheless, good for him for turning his career around. Obviously it's too bad we can't benefit from it, but given his attitude we are better off with him elsewhere.

Rogers is probably right that there are a few grumbling players who can't wait to move on. If Landry is one of them, then I hope we get rid of him, and soon.

Where I think Carlos is full of bull is the "so many guys" bit. Shanahan's already introduced a big turnover on the roster, with more players to come. Aside from Landry, the "so many guys" are probably marginal contributors on their way out anyway.

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:37 pm
by tribeofjudah
Laron Landry better .....WISE UP.....and check himself and fix himself


..........before he WREX himself......hahaha

I want LL back in DC, but that's not up to me.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:56 am
by chiefhog44
This interview coincidently is during the same week Steve Jackson was canned. Safties coach talkin about Landry's desire to get the hell out two weeks prior. This during the same season Fletcher blew up at Landry for a missed assignment. This during the season the Skins sidelined Landy after he lit the medical staff up for a misdiagnosis.

coincidence of so much noise in one season for one player?

Landry is done here folks.