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Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

The Redskins will definitely look to trade up with the Rams to acquire the services of Robert Griffin III, but short of that they are in a sticky spot here. They can't logically justify spending the sixth overall pick on a quarterback like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill. Additionally, Trent Richardson is off the board.

I also don't see the Redskins going defense with their first-round pick when there are so many holes on the other side of the ball. This leads me to believe they will take the next-best skill position player in Michael Floyd.

The Notre Dame standout makes grown men look like little children on the outside. His physical ability is awe-inspiring and reminds me a great deal of Calvin Johnson. He can climb the ladder and has soft hands. One of the best parts of Floyd's game is that he already runs pro-ready routes, which will limit his transition to the next level.

If the first five picks play out like I suspect, there is no reason why the Redskins should pass up on Floyd unless they can find a trade partner lower in the first round or trade up for Griffin III.

ArlingtonSkinsFan wrote:http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7467078/mel-kiper-first-mock-draft-year

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ArlingtonSkinsFan wrote:http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7467078/mel-kiper-first-mock-draft-year

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PAPDOG67 wrote:I'm sorry I don't know what people see in Mongomery at the C position. I've heard a lot of people on hear say they're happy with his play and that he's above average. The guy, to me is a career back up and we better be looking to upgrade the C position this off season either in the draft or via FA.

tribeofjudah wrote:Bleacher Report has Skins picking Michael Floyd.

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

The Redskins will definitely look to trade up with the Rams to acquire the services of Robert Griffin III, but short of that they are in a sticky spot here. They can't logically justify spending the sixth overall pick on a quarterback like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill. Additionally, Trent Richardson is off the board.

I also don't see the Redskins going defense with their first-round pick when there are so many holes on the other side of the ball. This leads me to believe they will take the next-best skill position player in Michael Floyd.

The Notre Dame standout makes grown men look like little children on the outside. His physical ability is awe-inspiring and reminds me a great deal of Calvin Johnson. He can climb the ladder and has soft hands. One of the best parts of Floyd's game is that he already runs pro-ready routes, which will limit his transition to the next level.

If the first five picks play out like I suspect, there is no reason why the Redskins should pass up on Floyd unless they can find a trade partner lower in the first round or trade up for Griffin III.

tribeofjudah wrote:Bleacher Report has Skins picking Michael Floyd.

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

The Redskins will definitely look to trade up with the Rams to acquire the services of Robert Griffin III, but short of that they are in a sticky spot here. They can't logically justify spending the sixth overall pick on a quarterback like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill. Additionally, Trent Richardson is off the board.

I also don't see the Redskins going defense with their first-round pick when there are so many holes on the other side of the ball. This leads me to believe they will take the next-best skill position player in Michael Floyd.

The Notre Dame standout makes grown men look like little children on the outside. His physical ability is awe-inspiring and reminds me a great deal of Calvin Johnson. He can climb the ladder and has soft hands. One of the best parts of Floyd's game is that he already runs pro-ready routes, which will limit his transition to the next level.

If the first five picks play out like I suspect, there is no reason why the Redskins should pass up on Floyd unless they can find a trade partner lower in the first round or trade up for Griffin III.

brad7686 wrote:

tribeofjudah wrote:Bleacher Report has Skins picking Michael Floyd.

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

The Redskins will definitely look to trade up with the Rams to acquire the services of Robert Griffin III, but short of that they are in a sticky spot here. They can't logically justify spending the sixth overall pick on a quarterback like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill. Additionally, Trent Richardson is off the board.

I also don't see the Redskins going defense with their first-round pick when there are so many holes on the other side of the ball. This leads me to believe they will take the next-best skill position player in Michael Floyd.

The Notre Dame standout makes grown men look like little children on the outside. His physical ability is awe-inspiring and reminds me a great deal of Calvin Johnson. He can climb the ladder and has soft hands. One of the best parts of Floyd's game is that he already runs pro-ready routes, which will limit his transition to the next level.

If the first five picks play out like I suspect, there is no reason why the Redskins should pass up on Floyd unless they can find a trade partner lower in the first round or trade up for Griffin III.

I could see Floyd jumping if he runs well at the combine. He's a huge target he just needs to prove he can separate. Even if he can't, he could have success just making plays on the ball and running good routes, i.e. Hakeem Nicks. Hopefully he can curtail the drinking.

That situation could get really interesting with people rising and falling, who we end up with if we stay at six. If Floyds in the equation, you have to weigh him against Riley Reiff, who looks like a pretty solid OT, and Claiborne. I'm sure others will sneak into the equation as well. I wouldn't be surprised if WR is addressed in FA just because it's a good year for them. And this draft seems to have some line depth.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

brad7686 wrote:

tribeofjudah wrote:Bleacher Report has Skins picking Michael Floyd.

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

The Redskins will definitely look to trade up with the Rams to acquire the services of Robert Griffin III, but short of that they are in a sticky spot here. They can't logically justify spending the sixth overall pick on a quarterback like Nick Foles or Ryan Tannehill. Additionally, Trent Richardson is off the board.

I also don't see the Redskins going defense with their first-round pick when there are so many holes on the other side of the ball. This leads me to believe they will take the next-best skill position player in Michael Floyd.

The Notre Dame standout makes grown men look like little children on the outside. His physical ability is awe-inspiring and reminds me a great deal of Calvin Johnson. He can climb the ladder and has soft hands. One of the best parts of Floyd's game is that he already runs pro-ready routes, which will limit his transition to the next level.

If the first five picks play out like I suspect, there is no reason why the Redskins should pass up on Floyd unless they can find a trade partner lower in the first round or trade up for Griffin III.

I could see Floyd jumping if he runs well at the combine. He's a huge target he just needs to prove he can separate. Even if he can't, he could have success just making plays on the ball and running good routes, i.e. Hakeem Nicks. Hopefully he can curtail the drinking.

That situation could get really interesting with people rising and falling, who we end up with if we stay at six. If Floyds in the equation, you have to weigh him against Riley Reiff, who looks like a pretty solid OT, and Claiborne. I'm sure others will sneak into the equation as well. I wouldn't be surprised if WR is addressed in FA just because it's a good year for them. And this draft seems to have some line depth.

To me it is just too high for a WR, especially a WR that shows signs of being an alcoholic!

skinsfan#33 wrote:

PAPDOG67 wrote:I'm sorry I don't know what people see in Mongomery at the C position. I've heard a lot of people on hear say they're happy with his play and that he's above average. The guy, to me is a career back up and we better be looking to upgrade the C position this off season either in the draft or via FA.

I think he is adequate. We definitely could do better and we definitely could do worse.

SkinsJock wrote:I just don't see this FO taking a WR or RB with a top 10 pick
We are not exactly a player or two away from having the luxury of fine tuning - which is what those positions are


I really think that we'll see these guys trade down - there are teams that will want a player badly enough at the #6 spot

SkinsJock wrote:I just don't see this FO taking a WR or RB with a top 10 pick
We are not exactly a player or two away from having the luxury of fine tuning - which is what those positions are


I really think that we'll see these guys trade down - there are teams that will want a player badly enough at the #6 spot

brad7686 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:I just don't see this FO taking a WR or RB with a top 10 pick
We are not exactly a player or two away from having the luxury of fine tuning - which is what those positions are


I really think that we'll see these guys trade down - there are teams that will want a player badly enough at the #6 spot

I disagree that WR is fine tuning. There are some good teams that would be crap without their WR's. Detroit, GB, Pittsburgh, NYG, for example.

I recognize immediately that this is going to turn into a qb discussion, so let me just say that Big Ben and Eli have a history of mediocrity without their current receivers. Calvin Johnson is the only person Stafford throws to. And well, Rogers would make due without really good receivers but that group makes them explosive.

SkinsJock wrote:Sorry guys - can not agree with you

good teams are not good teams because of a few good players - good teams need good play from players playing together

The Giants are not a good team because of their receivers - their defense is finally playing together
We beat the Giants twice because they did not have the type of play from their defense that they got last week - can u imagine Rex against that group - hell loook at what they did to A Rogers and that offense

Detroit would be a good team without Calvin - maybe not as good but they would still be a good team

this applies to all good teams



we are close, no question but drafting a great WR will help this team down the road - we need to continue to build on what has been started

WR and RB are luxuries - we will not be doing that

I have nothing against taking Blackmon - we're just not taking a WR or RB at the #6 spot IF we have to take a player at this spot

SkinsJock wrote:Sorry guys - can not agree with you

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:Sorry guys - can not agree with you

You don't know what you're talking about. A good receiver is actually a glaring need that we have. There's no way we pass taking Blackmon because he's a receiver. If we can't get Luck or Griffin and he's there, he'd be an excellent choice. With that high a pick, you have to take a player with talent. We can address needs later in the draft and with free agency and it makes a lot more sense then drafting to fill a need with that high a pick. You pass on the best players and you end up with wash outs who don't fill the need at all.

DarthMonk wrote:

Suppose your philosophy is "Best availible player"... If best availible grades out at 2 selections better than the best player at a position of severe need, what do you do? Ignore your need?

Yes. Either that or you trade down.

Suppose you are intent on picking only players of need...

Generally a bad idea but trade down. Grab the best player but if you have greats already at that position and don't want another trade down. Don't waste the pick on an inferior player just because you "need" that position.

I've said it once and I'll say it again:

Here's the best example I ever heard - from the book America's Game - Page 337:

The 1979 draft found the Dallas Cowboys preparing for the beginning of a new era, with Roger Staubach nearing the end of his career. His understudy Danny White, who'd come over after the demise of the WFL, was the heir apparent, and the young Glenn Carano, an unpolished but physically gifted thrower form the University of Nevada-Las Vegas was seen as a potential diamond in the rough. In the 3rd round, as the Cowboys' selection came up, Tom Landry looked at the Cowboys' master list, and did something he had rarely done in his 19 years of drafting. Instead of taking the top player on the Cowboys' chart, he went "against the board" and selected not the highest-rated player but the next-highest-ranked one, a rangy tight end named Doug Cosbie, who would go on to enjoy a productive career and provide further evidence that the Cowboys were able to find a diamond in the rough.

On the next selection, the 82nd, San Francisco chose the very player who had been on the top of the Cowboys' board, the player Dallas had passed on because, in Landry's words, "We don't really need another quarterback."

His name was Joe Montana.

Thank God they blew that one!

I'll go so far as to say ALWAYS TAKE TALENT OVER NEED IN THE DRAFT. AMASS ALL THE YOUNG TALENT YOU CAN. YOUR SO-CALLED NEEDS CAN BE FILLED BY GUYS WHO WANT TO COME PLAY WITH YOUR TALENT.

This is especially true for the 'Skins since we have SO MANY HOLES TO FILL.

DarthMonk (call me Vinny if you want - good philosophy horribly implemented by him)

DarthMonk wrote:If we end up on the clock at #6 I hope we will have already signed a guy like Bowe and then trade down. We showed last year that this is not as difficult to do as some might think.