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Source: #Redskins brass dining with former Bucs coach Raheem Morris...He and Kyle were on assistants in Tampa together @wtop

Per @GWallaceWTOP - Raheem would be a great addition to #Redskins staff, but who gets the boot or can they just add him and move forward?

Maybe as the new DB coach?

What is he now? I'd guess maybe sp teams coach but shanny seemed to back him.. Then again there is all the blocked fgs and coverage being not as good as it was at times.

I'm jus glad the season is barely over and they are already all about the business.

Where did u find this info? I like reading updates like this and the signing of our PS qb clemons iirc his name... If u can't say or have the inside scoop keep us posted!

1niksder wrote:

Source: #Redskins brass dining with former Bucs coach Raheem Morris...He and Kyle were on assistants in Tampa together @wtop

Per @GWallaceWTOP - Raheem would be a great addition to #Redskins staff, but who gets the boot or can they just add him and move forward?

Maybe as the new DB coach?

I would think that he could get a job as a DC. Maybe Shanahan isn't happy with Haslett?

I dont think hasletts out I think bob slowiks on the chopping block

It has to be for DB coach.

I'd agree with Chris - Haslett has done better this year

here's a link http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports. ... 8/34202540


btw - Is Kyle old enough to drink?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:It has to be for DB coach.

a change which we clearly could use. Gotta believe that we can squeeze more out of the DBs than they have.

! Seems like a quality guy.

We went from 31st to 13th in total team defense under Haslett this year so seems like his job should be safe.

+ we were top ten D MOST of the year.. Vick gashing us didn't help us stay there.

This might be one of the best moves on D all offseason- w JJ healthy and assuming we keep all FA s maybe draft a CB our db play is the most suspect... I think we have good players especially when all are healthy so this guy hopefully can back that claim w some good coaching and help get Has' D to the stingy all around turnover machine he envisions

- The defense is better than most give them credit for.

- They rarely if ever get to play with a lead.

- They were without Laron Landry for most of the year. They were without a healthy Atogwe for most of the year. They lost arguably their best rookie defensive player for the entire year.


Despite all that, they improved to #15 and were top 10 at some points.

emoses14 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:It has to be for DB coach.

a change which we clearly could use. Gotta believe that we can squeeze more out of the DBs than they have.

+1

Chris Luva Luva wrote:- The defense is better than most give them credit for.

- They rarely if ever get to play with a lead.

- They were without Laron Landry for most of the year. They were without a healthy Atogwe for most of the year. They lost arguably their best rookie defensive player for the entire year.


Despite all that, they improved to #15 and were top 10 at some points.

Not to mention their QB was one of the league leaders in turnovers.

per Grant Paulsen
He was interviewed to coach the DB's

1niksder wrote:per Grant Paulsen
He was interviewed to coach the DB's

I listen to Coach and Doc on the way home. Doc raised an interesting point about Raheem, he'd be a good liaison between the players and older coaches. He's a guy that the players would be comfortable reaching out to. So in addition to being a quality coach, he could help as a mentor. That's def an intangible quality and would be useful here.

Personnel-wise we have a good defense. Haslett is awful. He blitzes every play and refuses to change. We would be top 5 again if he was not here. And if we could get a safety to stay healthy for more than a couple days.

brad7686 wrote:Personnel-wise we have a good defense. Haslett is awful. He blitzes every play and refuses to change. We would be top 5 again if he was not here. And if we could get a safety to stay healthy for more than a couple days.

I cannot disagree with this post more.

brad7686 wrote:Personnel-wise we have a good defense. Haslett is awful. He blitzes every play and refuses to change. We would be top 5 again if he was not here. And if we could get a safety to stay healthy for more than a couple days.

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Chris Luva Luva wrote:

brad7686 wrote:Personnel-wise we have a good defense. Haslett is awful. He blitzes every play and refuses to change. We would be top 5 again if he was not here. And if we could get a safety to stay healthy for more than a couple days.

I cannot disagree with this post more.

I cannot disagree with this post more.

Meaning, I agree with Brad. Of course I'm biased, becasue I never wanted Has because he has never been a good DC. Have no idea why we wanted him.

With that being said, can you really justify canning the DC when the D improved and not canning the OC when the O didn't improve.

If I was going after a DC it would be Spags (if for anything else, to keep him out of Philly or NY). I wouldn't even consider RMorris for the DC spot.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

brad7686 wrote:Personnel-wise we have a good defense. Haslett is awful. He blitzes every play and refuses to change. We would be top 5 again if he was not here. And if we could get a safety to stay healthy for more than a couple days.

I cannot disagree with this post more.

I cannot disagree with this post more.

Meaning, I agree with Brad. Of course I'm biased, becasue I never wanted Has because he has never been a good DC. Have no idea why we wanted him.

With that being said, can you really justify canning the DC when the D improved and not canning the OC when the O didn't improve.

If I was going after a DC it would be Spags (if for anything else, to keep him out of Philly or NY). I wouldn't even consider RMorris for the DC spot.

So you agree that (1) personnel wise we have a good defense, (2) Haslett is awful, (3) Haslett can do nothing other than blitz every play, (4) is unable to change (presumably from blitzing every play, but that's unclear from brad's post), (5) that we would be a top 5 defense (again) simply if Haslett were not here and we could get a safety (presumably any one of them and not specifically the 2 who were supposed to be starting) to stay healthy?

Really?

Cause the rest of your post seems to suggest that the only thing you have an issue with is Haslett being here because you think he isn't good enough and you admit our D got better (which must mean he decidely isn't awful). So I'll put the question affirmatively, do you believe that it would be in the best interest of this organization to can haslett and bring in someone new, with a whole new system start our defense over, again?

I'm kind of a fan of a 3rd year with the same HC, OC and DC for a change(yes, I realize everyone and their mother thinks Kyle blows, but I'll wait to see what he can do with a little more in the cupboard first). When was the last time we had that? Norv, the year we hosted a playoff game? Who knows, we might actually get a different result then what we've become accustomed to with the "what have you done for me lately, you're fired" approach.

emoses14 wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

brad7686 wrote:Personnel-wise we have a good defense. Haslett is awful. He blitzes every play and refuses to change. We would be top 5 again if he was not here. And if we could get a safety to stay healthy for more than a couple days.

I cannot disagree with this post more.

I cannot disagree with this post more.

Meaning, I agree with Brad. Of course I'm biased, becasue I never wanted Has because he has never been a good DC. Have no idea why we wanted him.

With that being said, can you really justify canning the DC when the D improved and not canning the OC when the O didn't improve.

If I was going after a DC it would be Spags (if for anything else, to keep him out of Philly or NY). I wouldn't even consider RMorris for the DC spot.

So you agree that (1) personnel wise we have a good defense, (2) Haslett is awful, (3) Haslett can do nothing other than blitz every play, (4) is unable to change (presumably from blitzing every play, but that's unclear from brad's post), (5) that we would be a top 5 defense (again) simply if Haslett were not here and we could get a safety (presumably any one of them and not specifically the 2 who were supposed to be starting) to stay healthy?

Really?

Cause the rest of your post seems to suggest that the only thing you have an issue with is Haslett being here because you think he isn't good enough and you admit our D got better (which must mean he decidely isn't awful). So I'll put the question affirmatively, do you believe that it would be in the best interest of this organization to can haslett and bring in someone new, with a whole new system start our defense over, again?

I'm kind of a fan of a 3rd year with the same HC, OC and DC for a change(yes, I realize everyone and their mother thinks Kyle blows, but I'll wait to see what he can do with a little more in the cupboard first). When was the last time we had that? Norv, the year we hosted a playoff game? Who knows, we might actually get a different result then what we've become accustomed to with the "what have you done for me lately, you're fired" approach.

The only problem I really have with Has are his adjustments. They generally are awful. I like the blitz, but for that to work you need linebackers that can cover better than ours can.

brad7686 wrote:Personnel-wise we have a good defense. Haslett is awful. He blitzes every play and refuses to change. We would be top 5 again if he was not here. And if we could get a safety to stay healthy for more than a couple days.

I agree with this. Haslett is simply not a good coach, and his career track record backs that up. He should go back to coaching in the UFL since he's actually qualified for that.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

brad7686 wrote:Personnel-wise we have a good defense. Haslett is awful. He blitzes every play and refuses to change. We would be top 5 again if he was not here. And if we could get a safety to stay healthy for more than a couple days.

I agree with this. Haslett is simply not a good coach, and his career track record backs that up. He should go back to coaching in the UFL since he's actually qualified for that.

By career track record do you mean like in 2001 when he was NFL COACH OF THE YEAR?

I don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other on Haslett. Just seems like a stretch to say the man is "simply not a good coach".

CanesSkins26 wrote:

brad7686 wrote:Personnel-wise we have a good defense. Haslett is awful. He blitzes every play and refuses to change. We would be top 5 again if he was not here. And if we could get a safety to stay healthy for more than a couple days.

I agree with this. Haslett is simply not a good coach, and his career track record backs that up. He should go back to coaching in the UFL since he's actually qualified for that.

Curious: do you really look at the Skins' 2011 defensive roster and results and think that better coaching could have yielded wildly better results? I'm not sold on Haslett, but in practical terms, player by player, it's hard to blame Haslett or Slowik for poor safety play. It's been that way ever since Clark was allowed to leave.

Paralis wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

brad7686 wrote:Personnel-wise we have a good defense. Haslett is awful. He blitzes every play and refuses to change. We would be top 5 again if he was not here. And if we could get a safety to stay healthy for more than a couple days.

I agree with this. Haslett is simply not a good coach, and his career track record backs that up. He should go back to coaching in the UFL since he's actually qualified for that.

Curious: do you really look at the Skins' 2011 defensive roster and results and think that better coaching could have yielded wildly better results? I'm not sold on Haslett, but in practical terms, player by player, it's hard to blame Haslett or Slowik for poor safety play. It's been that way ever since Clark was allowed to leave.

It's not just this year. Look at his entire career, when has he ever fielded an elite defense? If he is so great why was he in the UFL when we hired him?

Is there anyone on this staff that you think is any good Canes?

given that there's a good chance that you're going to have to watch them coaching here for another season
is there any chance of this franchise being worth watching? - in your opinion, of course