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Patriots will need more from Haynesworth
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:29 am
by 1niksder
Patriots will need more from Haynesworth
One of the more head-scratching things about the Patriots' defense in going over the television copy of the Patriots' win over the Chargers was the lack of an impact by DT Albert Haynesworth.
He was the most impactful defensive player in the season-opening win against the Dolphins, with two run stuffs, two hurries, and 1.5 knockdowns (two holding penalties drawn are included in those numbers).
Against the Chargers, Haynesworth didn't have one impactful play. He didn't even show up on the stat sheet.
Haynesworth wasn't terrible or anything -- he competed fine (although his final two plays were a little suspect) -- you just expect an obviously talented player to have some sort of an impact.
They expect some sort of impact from AH

WHY, didn't they see him play last year?
Haynesworth's two final plays were his poorest. He was knocked to the ground for the seventh and eighth time in the game and didn't make much of an attempt to get up. Check the footage at 14:13 of the fourth quarter to see what I'm talking about. Here's a screen grab.
That play did come five plays after he came out of the game to be stretched, so maybe Haynesworth has an injury. But it didn't look good.
He had fallen and didn't get up? Who would have thunk it? I bet there has to be film of him doing this in his past.
It's not a injury...... it's Fat Albert
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:45 am
by Countertrey
Albert? Short on effort? Who could think such a thing???
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:04 am
by SkinsJock
Belicheat is caught between the rock and a hard place here
He can't cut the fat slug - that would be admitting he is not that good an evaluator OR coach
Bill has to hate playing the lazy, fat body that doesn't give a damn & who can't even run onto the field he's so out of shape
gotta love it

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:25 am
by Deadskins
Albert does have his moments, though. I don't he's worth the cost, either in dollars or locker-room morale, because he takes so many plays off. But I don't think Belicheat is in that tough of a spot.
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:10 am
by Countertrey
Yeah... I don't see Belichick as hamstrung in any way. If anyone in the league is likely to pull the plug on a name player, it's him.
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:24 am
by KazooSkinsFan
SkinsJock wrote:He can't cut the fat slug - that would be admitting he is not that good an evaluator OR coach
Of course he can cut him, this is just silly
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:43 pm
by SkinsJock
I'd love him to cut the fat slug & he should - giving Haynesworth was a mistake
small but - Bill the cheat is still a great coach - maybe just a good evaluator
Haynesworth is not helping the defense and Bill just needs to admit he was wrong
Bill's not going to lose any sleep over it - AND he's still a cheat
no big deal at all - just love the small 'victories'
it's the tall poppy syndrome - just love cutting the tall ones off, just for spite

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:25 am
by KazooSkinsFan
SkinsJock wrote:I'd love him to cut the fat slug & he should - giving Haynesworth was a mistake
small but - Bill the cheat is still a great coach - maybe just a good evaluator
Haynesworth is not helping the defense and Bill just needs to admit he was wrong
Bill's not going to lose any sleep over it - AND he's still a cheat
no big deal at all - just love the small 'victories'

it's the tall poppy syndrome - just love cutting the tall ones off, just for spite

Fat Albert isn't competing with the starters to be on the roster, he's competing with the lowest backup on the roster. I can see keeping a guy who can make three awesome plays a game and is winded the rest over a guy who's only going to see the field if three guys get injured.
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:53 pm
by Irn-Bru
My eyes glazed over at this guy's repeated use of the word "impactful." Just dreadful writing.
But more on point, I'm not sure what it was New England fans were expecting. A change of scenery and playing for one of the best teams in the league was always going to boost Haynesworth a little bit. But when has the guy ever showed that he had the raw desire to be the best? He's always been pure talent without the work ethic, focus, or desire to make something special happen.
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:17 am
by SkinsJock
Irn-Bru wrote:My eyes glazed over at this guy's repeated use of the word "impactful." Just dreadful writing.
But more on point, I'm not sure what it was New England fans were expecting. A change of scenery and playing for one of the best teams in the league was always going to boost Haynesworth a little bit. But when has the guy ever showed that he had the raw desire to be the best? He's always been pure talent without the work ethic, focus, or desire to make something special happen.
that's the thing - when fat boy was brought in, all the expectations were for a lot more than what they're now seeing
to Kaz's point - NE have a guy that is 'competing' for the chance to make a couple of plays - he's not exactly breaking the bank here
this is NOT the Haynesworth that the media expected they would see under Bill's guidance
Fat slug's got talent - he's just not capable of playing much each week
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:59 pm
by Irn-Bru
I didn't watch the game, but I don't see Haynesworth's name in the game stats on NFL.com. Not even an assist on a tackle. Did he even play?
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:18 pm
by 1niksder
Irn-Bru wrote:I didn't watch the game, but I don't see Haynesworth's name in the game stats on NFL.com. Not even an assist on a tackle. Did he even play?
NopeThe New England Patriots are without three starters on defense — defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth, safety Patrick Chung, and rookie starting cornerback Ras-I Dowling — in Sunday’s game against the Buffalo Bills.
Haynesworth has a bad back, Chung injured his thumb in last Sunday’s win against San Diego, and Dowling has a hip injury. Haynesworth and Chung were declared out on Saturday.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:00 pm
by Irn-Bru
And now he's not even travelling with the team to Oakland this week.
One-quarter of the year will be gone and Haynesworth will have contributed a whole 2 tackles and zero sacks to the Pats D. I guess there's still time for him to make something of an impact, but . . . at the very least it's not looking good.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:18 pm
by SkinsJock
shhh - Bill is keeping him on the roster as a VERY secret weapon

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:11 am
by tribeofjudah
worthless...... probably faking an injury so he doesn't have to work...LOL