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Not sure after tonights stat line that beck starts vs giants........I think Rex wins!

Doc's interview with trent on staying in there until 2nd half, Trent slipped and said that the starting QB was in there.... Hehehe I think he slipped, he tried to recover by saying whether it's rex or beck LoL, but it was a slip hehehehe

I don't think it's Becks numbers. He played with backups. But, the fact that Grossman didn't play tonite is what signals that maybe Grossman is the guy. It's still a friggin mystery though.

I'd rather go with Beck.

I'm really hoping it's Beck. I have less that no confidence in Grossman at all. I don't have a lot of confidence in Beck, but I do have more in him than I do in Grossman.

Grossman and Beck both are terrible.

The Hogster wrote:I don't think it's Becks numbers. He played with backups. But, the fact that Grossman didn't play tonite is what signals that maybe Grossman is the guy. It's still a friggin mystery though.

I'd rather go with Beck.

Shanny said Grossman had thrown 27 passes more than Beck as the reason Beck played and Grossman didn't.

I'd rather it be Beck, but if Grossman was in there I'd be ok with it.

I like that Beck be training with Drew Brees, and getting tips from him and other tutelage.

SKINFAN wrote:Doc's interview with trent on staying in there until 2nd half, Trent slipped and said that the starting QB was in there.... Hehehe I think he slipped, he tried to recover by saying whether it's rex or beck LoL, but it was a slip hehehehe

Doesn't matter what he said. He doesn't know who will start.

RedskinsRule56 wrote:Grossman and Beck both are terrible.

I completely agree with you.

jeremyroyce wrote:

RedskinsRule56 wrote:Grossman and Beck both are terrible.

I completely agree with you.

If Mike agreed with that assessment he'd do something about it

IF Mike keeps one or both of these QBs then I'd say he does not agree with either of you

btw - Mike has forgotten MORE than either of you will EVER know about QBs in the NFL

Neither may be any good but they are NOT both terrible

goes to show how much you guys can tell about QBs





I don't really care much about what you both think about this franchise
it's V obvious that neither of you is much of an evaluator of NFL players

I am looking forward to rubbing it in a little this season though

Great or Terrible is really irrelevant at this point. We're a week and a half away from having to go into battle for real with one of these guys at the helm of this team. My hope is that Mike and Kyle are looking at this in a "Who is the most likely to give us positive results and not negative results?" viewpoint.

I'm not claiming to be any level of expert on Quarterbacks or Quarterbacking but to my wholely untrained eyes, I think that John Beck is the guy who is most likely to give this team a positive result in the offense. He seems to make more positive plays and less negative ones than Rex does.

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:I'm not claiming to be any level of expert on Quarterbacks or Quarterbacking but to my wholely untrained eyes, I think that John Beck is the guy who is most likely to give this team a positive result in the offense. He seems to make more positive plays and less negative ones than Rex does.

You're probably no TV watching expert either, because from what was shown on TV tonight, Beck CLEARLY regressed against the Bucs. Rexy outplayed him, without ever taking a snap during the game.

Beck has a stronger arm, more athleticism and makes quicker decisions. Grossman has his moments, but he is a known quantity. He is not getting much better from this point forward. Beck has upside and may blossom with some starts.

I think Grossman gives us a better chance to win in the first 3 or 4 games. Beck gives us a better chance to win the last 3 or 4 games and be a better team going into next season. If Beck doesn't get it done, then we know we need to draft a QB next year.

fleetus wrote:Beck has a stronger arm, more athleticism and makes quicker decisions. Grossman has his moments, but he is a known quantity. He is not getting much better from this point forward. Beck has upside and may blossom with some starts.

I think Grossman gives us a better chance to win in the first 3 or 4 games. Beck gives us a better chance to win the last 3 or 4 games and be a better team going into next season. If Beck doesn't get it done, then we know we need to draft a QB next year.

I'm pretty sure we already know that.

spudstr04 wrote:

fleetus wrote:Beck has a stronger arm, more athleticism and makes quicker decisions. Grossman has his moments, but he is a known quantity. He is not getting much better from this point forward. Beck has upside and may blossom with some starts.

I think Grossman gives us a better chance to win in the first 3 or 4 games. Beck gives us a better chance to win the last 3 or 4 games and be a better team going into next season. If Beck doesn't get it done, then we know we need to draft a QB next year.

I'm pretty sure we already know that.

we are CERTAINLY adding a QB - next draft or through free agency

Beck will get a chance to show if he can play QB at this level - he is NOT showing that he's CLEARLY better than Grossman


The season is almost here - many here are getting a little antsy and defensive when anyone points out why we are better but are not yet ready to challenge for a playoff spot

GIVE ME A BREAK - we were in terrible shape just 2 seasons ago and we are getting better

we need a QB AND depth along both lines

Mike & Bruce have done a good job but this team needs another season, another draft & a couple more free agents
we are going to be a playoff contender next year

spudstr04 wrote:

fleetus wrote:Beck has a stronger arm, more athleticism and makes quicker decisions. Grossman has his moments, but he is a known quantity. He is not getting much better from this point forward. Beck has upside and may blossom with some starts.

I think Grossman gives us a better chance to win in the first 3 or 4 games. Beck gives us a better chance to win the last 3 or 4 games and be a better team going into next season. If Beck doesn't get it done, then we know we need to draft a QB next year.

I'm pretty sure we already know that.

You may think YOU know it. I'm pretty sure WE (Shanahans and B. Allen) have some faith in Beck's upside. It is pretty obvious in how they talk about him and the fact they didn't bring anyone in for competition. Time will tell.

Tedy Bruschi said that the fact Grossman was on the sideline was a sign he was the starter. I dunno about that, just giving Beck more reps IMO. I'd like to see Beck start.

Skinsfan55 wrote:Tedy Bruschi said that the fact Grossman was on the sideline was a sign he was the starter. I dunno about that, just giving Beck more reps IMO. I'd like to see Beck start.

Yeah, I heard that too. Sorry to say I don't agree with you, Teddy. I think Shanahan was getting Beck thoroughly warmed up for his start against the G-strings.

This competition is still borderline. Beck's hunger and worth ethic is going to put him atop of Rexy. If Rexy in his third year had a showing similiar to Beck with just 1 year... That says a lot.

IMO the decision has been made and Shanny is just being Shanny not showing his hand till gameday. I realize that doesn't make sense because they both are essentially the same type, but it's shanny.

Deadskins wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:Tedy Bruschi said that the fact Grossman was on the sideline was a sign he was the starter. I dunno about that, just giving Beck more reps IMO. I'd like to see Beck start.

Yeah, I heard that too. Sorry to say I don't agree with you, Teddy. I think Shanahan was getting Beck thoroughly warmed up for his start against the G-strings.

Heard that and immediately thought, "you're an idiot." Seemed pretty sure of himself for someone with 0 inside knowledge of the team.

I think we have to look at what is known about both of these QBs. We KNOW Rex is two QBs in one, one good QB, and one very bad QB. Little is known about Beck that he hasn't shown in the preseason games. So do you go with an up and down guy, or a guy who so far only has potential?

Even before the game Sonny Jurgensen said that he expects Rex to be the starter. I doubt he was basing that assessment just on what's happened on the field.

CanesSkins26 wrote:Even before the game Sonny Jurgensen said that he expects Rex to be the starter. I doubt he was basing that assessment just on what's happened on the field.

I hadn't heard that. Sonny would know.

Deadskins wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:Even before the game Sonny Jurgensen said that he expects Rex to be the starter. I doubt he was basing that assessment just on what's happened on the field.

I hadn't heard that. Sonny would know.

Yea, he mentioned it on the pregame show. Kevin Sheehan asked Larry Michael about it again this morning on 980 and Michael said that both he and Sonny expect Rex to be the starter. I bet we find out on Wednesday or Thursday.