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Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:08 pm**

granthpaulsen

Shanahan: ey has a sore knee and is being monitored closely. Said Malcolm Kelly was held out with soreness, too. Kelly said his foot.

RickMaese

Team has been monitoring ey's knee. Shanahan doesn't seem too concerned

Russellmania980

As for Malcolm, he was sore, trainers said to hold him back..ey has some swelling issues. #Redskins

Rich_Campbell

FYI, Shanahan said Kelly's injury was a hamstring/groin, but Kelly told me it was his right foot...so I'll take the player's word.

granthpaulsen

Shanahan on Kelly: "Obviously if you keep on getting hurt, it's not going to help your chances of making the football team." #Redskins

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:39 pm**

Kelly. Dude. Really?

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:46 pm**

CanesSkins26 wrote:
granthpaulsen

Shanahan on Kelly: "Obviously if you keep on getting hurt, it's not going to help your chances of making the football team." #Redskins

At this point in his career, saying "not going to help" is an understatement, to say the least.

Goodbye, Kelly: thanks for the . . . uh . . . well, good luck, anyway. You'll need it.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:16 pm**

Irn-Bru wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
granthpaulsen

Shanahan on Kelly: "Obviously if you keep on getting hurt, it's not going to help your chances of making the football team." #Redskins

At this point in his career, saying "not going to help" is an understatement, to say the least.

Goodbye, Kelly: thanks for the . . . uh . . . well, good luck, anyway. You'll need it.

The Malcolm Kelly injury is a foot injury, not a hamstring or groin as Shanahan had thought. No timetable for return

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:57 am**

I gotta say, the Kelly injury is a shocker. I thought it was totally safe to depend on his health, just like the redskins apparently have for 5 years.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:48 am**

Too good to cut, too frail to play. Too good to cut, to frail to play. Too good to cut, too frail to play, bye bye...

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:12 am**

Sad to see that but it is what it is at this point.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:27 am**

The Hogster wrote:Kelly. Dude. Really?

I've said worse about Kelly in smack so I totally understand.

LLS still

Malcom ImHurtAgain Kelly.. his twitter name should be that. "ImHurtAgain"

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:51 am**

The Hogster wrote:Kelly. Dude. Really?

This pretty much sums it up.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:44 pm**

The Hogster wrote:Kelly. Dude. Really?

why is this guy still around :?:

Posted: **Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:27 am**

I'm going to hold out on my opinion until after the first preseason game.

Posted: **Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:43 am**

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:45 am**

2. Banks (knee) returned to full go, but Kelly (foot) out at least another week per Shanny.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:11 pm**

CanesSkins26 wrote:
2. Banks (knee) returned to full go, but Kelly (foot) out at least another week per Shanny.

Can we just get our money back from this guy? Like.. isn't there something in the contract saying you have to play a certain amount of games? *shrug*.. Nice pickup Vinny.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:30 pm**

langleyparkjoe wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
2. Banks (knee) returned to full go, but Kelly (foot) out at least another week per Shanny.

Can we just get our money back from this guy? Like.. isn't there something in the contract saying you have to play a certain amount of games? *shrug*.. Nice pickup Vinny.

I actually don't blame Vinny for this one. Everyone on the boards was pretty happy with the selection of Kelly, and while there were some injury concerns, I don't think that anyone expected this from Kelly.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:18 pm**

I suspect the most disappointed person about this is Malcolm Kelly...

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:10 pm**

I'm sorry Canes - NOBODY on the boards here has anything to do with selecting players

Kelly looked promising but if he's not playing up to expectations - he was a bad mistake by Cerrato and his group - not anyone here

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:21 pm**

SkinsJock wrote:I'm sorry Canes - NOBODY on the boards here has anything to do with selecting players

Kelly looked promising but if he's not playing up to expectations - he was a bad mistake by Cerrato and his group - not anyone here

Really? People on the boards have nothing to do with selecting plays? Wow, I never knew that :roll:

The point I was making, which clearly you missed, is that the pick of Kelly was widely regarded by fans, as well as the media, as a good pick by the Skins. Kelly had a very good career at Oklahoma and was known as a high character guy. He did have some injury concerns, primarily because of an injury to his knee his junior year, and as a result he slipped to the second round. Vinny did a lot of idiotic things when he was here, but I'm not going to blame him for Malcolm Kelly's hamstring and foot injuries. I take far more issue with his drafting Devin Thomas than I do the selection of Kelly.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:26 pm**

I take issue with EVERYTHING that idiot did - nothing good that he did makes up for all the things that he did here

I liked Kelly coming here - now I think it was a mistake - that is Cerrato's fault NOT mine :roll:

we are fans - we are entitled to say whatever we like

Cerrato was hopeless at what he did

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:18 pm**

Ummm... Kelly is not done yet.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:36 pm**

CanesSkins26 wrote:
langleyparkjoe wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
2. Banks (knee) returned to full go, but Kelly (foot) out at least another week per Shanny.

Can we just get our money back from this guy? Like.. isn't there something in the contract saying you have to play a certain amount of games? *shrug*.. Nice pickup Vinny.

I actually don't blame Vinny for this one. Everyone on the boards was pretty happy with the selection of Kelly, and while there were some injury concerns, I don't think that anyone expected this from Kelly.

I am sure that Shanny doesn't blame Vinny for taking Kelly either, so you are in good company, Canes. Kelly always had a lot of upside to him and still does. That's why Shanny won't just drop him already. The injury concerns were there at the time of drafting, but in the second round sometimes you have to take that chance. Problem was Vinny took three chances and struck out - three strikes Vinny's out. In hindsight, it was a bad pick, but at the time, I couldn't fault any GM for taking him at that position in the second round. Even the Mighty Steelers drew a bust on Limas Sweed.

How does Kelly measure up in his draft class?

WalterFootball.com 2008 Rankings next to name (Of course, this isn't ranking by NFL scouts, but they they did get Desean Jackson right in ranking him #1. This just gives you an idea about where WR was ranked.

2008 Draft order of WRs
2nd RD
7 - Donny Avery - Rams - 2010 injured reserve - 100 catches
3 - Devin Thomas - Vinny - Pathers - Giants - 40 receptions
9 - Jordy Nelson - Packers - 100 catches
4 - James Hardy - Bills - 10 catches
8 - Eddie Royal - Broncos - 187 catches - Shanahan draftee
16- Jerome Simpson - Bengals - 20 catches in 2010 - 21 career
* (Fred Davis TE - Vinny)
1 - DeSean Jackson - Eagles - 171 Catches
6 - Malcolm Kelly - Vinny - 28 catches
2 - Limas Sweed - Steelers - 69 catchers - 64 in 2008
19 - Dexter Jackson - Bucs - out of football
3rd RD
14 - Earl Bennett - Bears - 100 catches
5 - Early Doucet - Cards - 57 catches - catches increase each year
22 - Harry Douglas - Falcons - 45 catches - missed 2009 season
11 - Mario Manningham - Giants - 121 catches
* (Chad Rinehart OT - Vinny)
10 - Andre Caldwell - Bengals - 87 catches
4th RD
12 - William Franklin - Chiefs - out of football
51 - Marcus Smith - Ravens - 0 Catches
* (Justin Tryon CB - Vinny)
25 - Arman Shields - Raiders - out of football
21 - Lavelle Hawkins - Titans - 19 catches
15 - Keenan Burton - Rams - out of football
5th RD
26 - Kenneth Moore - Lions - out of football
NR - Matthew Slater - Pats - 0 catches
6th RD
* (Durant Brooks P - Vinny)
33 - Marcus Henry - Jets out of football
34 - Josh Morgan - 49ers - 116 catches
* (Kareem Moore S - Vinny)
45 - Kevin Robinson - Chiefs - out of football
* (Colt Brennan QB - Vinny)
13 - Paul Hubbard - Browns - NOR 2009 - Bills 1 catch
60 - Jaymar Johnson - Vikings - NOR 2008 & 2010 - 1 catch
44 - Pierre Garcon- Colts 118 catches
7th RD
NR - Justin Harper - Ravens - NOR in 2008 and 2010 - 0 catches
NR - Brett Swain - Packers NOR in 2008 - 6 catches
18 - Steve Johnson - Buffalo Bills - 94 catches - 2010 w/ 82 catches
24 - Adrian Arrington - Saints NOR 2008 and 2009 - 7 catches
* (Rob Jackson DE - Vinny)
36 - Mario Urrutia - Bengals - Out of Football
* (Chris Horton S - Vinny)

Notable Undrafted WRs
61 - Danny Amendola - original team Cowboys - NOR 2008 - Rams 128 catches
46 - Davon Bess - original team - Dolphins 209 catches - Whadabargain!!!

Catches = career
NOR = Not on Roster

SampleScouting report on Kelly.

Malcolm Kelly Scouting Report by Kendall

Pros: Size, Speed, Soft hands, Intelligent route runner. Malcolm is simply a Magician when it comes to ball security and catching skills. I have never seen any receiver catch so many uncatchable balls as Kelly has done, from at the feet to 3 feet behind to fingertip drills he simply snags everything in his path. Match his size his routes and the fact that he was double covered most of his career due to his threat then you see why he as a Jr. is the best Receiver in the draft reguardless of any other pro days.

Cons: Injury he must stay healthy. (prophetic?)

Overall: 6'4" 220 runs 4.4 in teh 40 great vertical leap catches everything thrown his way. 1st rounder should be first receiver taken, whoever gets him needs only a quick counterpart at slot to coimpliment Malcoms ability. In stride he is a threat to score at any moment. He has a lot of Jery ricelike qualities with the potential of a terrell owens physique.

http://www.fantasyfootballjungle.com/nf ... _Kelly/851

http://walterfootball.com/draft2008WR.php

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:39 pm**

I'd ABSOLUTELY love it if Kelly could come through both for himself and also for Mike for seeing something there and keeping him around and giving him another chance

FACT IS - this player should not still be here and it was ANOTHER mistake by the idiot Cerrato and his advisors

KUDOS to Mike and our FO for keeping and "developing" a player that should not, by rights, still be in the NFL :lol:

GOTTA LOVE THIS FO

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:32 pm**

SkinsJock wrote:I'd ABSOLUTELY love it if Kelly could come through both for himself and also for Mike for seeing something there and keeping him around and giving him another chance

FACT IS - this player should not still be here and it was ANOTHER mistake by the idiot Cerrato and his advisors

KUDOS to Mike and our FO for keeping and "developing" a player that should not, by rights, still be in the NFL

GOTTA LOVE THIS FO

You do realize that our current Director of Player Development, who plays a major role in the draft, Scott Campbell, was also the Director of College Scouting during Vinny's tenure too, right? So I'm just curious who they "advisors" are that you are talking about?

Posted: **Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:34 am**

Dan Snyder is still the owner here too :lol:

What does 1 guy who is still here from that stupidity have to do with ANYTHING that is happening here today

If Scott Campbell gave advice to Cerrato and he did not heed it - is that Scott's fault :roll:

OBVIOUSLY this FO knows the cause of the stupid decisions and they are NOT a part of the process here anymore

THANK THE LORD

Posted: **Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:10 pm**

ey better get back on th field too or he's gone...

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