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Rocky offered a contract by Skins
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:24 am
by fleetus
Not much more than a rumor at the moment, but it was reported just a few minutes ago on local CBS station.
I'm a little curious about this move because I thought Rocky was not a perfect fit for the 3-4 and they would take this opportunity to look for another ILB to join Fletcher in the middle.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:27 am
by Chris Luva Luva
I thought he played decently last year. #shrug
There's other needs to address before that, IMO.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:35 am
by 1niksder
Need to fill out the 90 man camp roster currently at 77 if you count the reported signings, UDFA, and draft picks. Throw in no OTAs and camps starting less than 6 weeks before the season. Rocky knows the scheme and the players around him
Re: Rocky offered a contract by Skins
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:36 am
by Red_One43
fleetus wrote:Not much more than a rumor at the moment, but it was reported just a few minutes ago on local CBS station.
I'm a little curious about this move because I thought Rocky was not a perfect fit for the 3-4 and they would take this opportunity to look for another ILB to join Fletcher in the middle.
I am curious here, too, but this could be one of those, Rocky, here is our offer. You are free to go out there and shop.
I heard J. Reid say that the coaches felt he played decently, last year. It is tough to recall any outstanding plays he made last year.
Was his average play due to being a poor fit last year or due to learning the position? It would seem that it was the latter. Also, keep in mind with poor NT play, it would be difficult for any ILB learning a new scheme to shine.
Re: Rocky offered a contract by Skins
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:38 am
by 1niksder
Red_One43 wrote:fleetus wrote:Not much more than a rumor at the moment, but it was reported just a few minutes ago on local CBS station.
I'm a little curious about this move because I thought Rocky was not a perfect fit for the 3-4 and they would take this opportunity to look for another ILB to join Fletcher in the middle.
I am curious here, too, but this could be one of those, Rocky, here is our offer. You are free to go out there and shop.
He said he wants to be in Washington... we'll see
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:42 am
by Chris Luva Luva
It makes sense for him to stay and for us to keep him.
Why bring in an unknown, average 3-4 player who doesn't know the system just so that we can say we got a 3-4 ILB?
I'd much rather resign an underrated, team 1st minded guy who wants to be here cus he loves the team, he knows the system and most importantly he's a good player. Fine he's not a 3-4 player but really, he was invisible out there and considering the transition they went thru, that's not a bad thing. He'll improve, he'll resign and next year we can properly upgrade the position instead of just doing it for the sake of doing it.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:26 am
by JansenFan
Chris Luva Luva wrote:It makes sense for him to stay and for us to keep him.
Why bring in an unknown, average 3-4 player who doesn't know the system just so that we can say we got a 3-4 ILB?
I'd much rather resign an underrated, team 1st minded guy who wants to be here cus he loves the team, he knows the system and most importantly he's a good player. Fine he's not a 3-4 player but really, he was invisible out there and considering the transition they went thru, that's not a bad thing. He'll improve, he'll resign and next year we can properly upgrade the position instead of just doing it for the sake of doing it.
That's ridiculous. How can we compete without all-stars at every position?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:34 am
by emoses14
JansenFan wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:It makes sense for him to stay and for us to keep him.
Why bring in an unknown, average 3-4 player who doesn't know the system just so that we can say we got a 3-4 ILB?
I'd much rather resign an underrated, team 1st minded guy who wants to be here cus he loves the team, he knows the system and most importantly he's a good player. Fine he's not a 3-4 player but really, he was invisible out there and considering the transition they went thru, that's not a bad thing. He'll improve, he'll resign and next year we can properly upgrade the position instead of just doing it for the sake of doing it.
That's ridiculous. How can we compete without all-stars at every position?
In light of our record over the last, oh 12 years, I'd say not very well.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:18 pm
by markshark84
I'd very much like to see Rocky back this year. Although not an all-pro, he has been a solid performer for us. He has come across some injuries (which will make him less attractive to other teams), so we may get a decent deal on him in his resign.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:28 pm
by langleyparkjoe
JansenFan wrote:That's ridiculous. How can we compete without all-stars at every position?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:28 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
JansenFan wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:It makes sense for him to stay and for us to keep him.
Why bring in an unknown, average 3-4 player who doesn't know the system just so that we can say we got a 3-4 ILB?
I'd much rather resign an underrated, team 1st minded guy who wants to be here cus he loves the team, he knows the system and most importantly he's a good player. Fine he's not a 3-4 player but really, he was invisible out there and considering the transition they went thru, that's not a bad thing. He'll improve, he'll resign and next year we can properly upgrade the position instead of just doing it for the sake of doing it.
That's ridiculous. How can we compete without all-stars at every position?
You made me laugh, but I totally agree. I like Rocky and I'd love to have him back. I wouldn't be adding zeroes to get him to stay, but unlike Rogers he wasn't burning bridges and I'd like to give him the chance to stay.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:29 pm
by yupchagee
KazooSkinsFan wrote:JansenFan wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:It makes sense for him to stay and for us to keep him.
Why bring in an unknown, average 3-4 player who doesn't know the system just so that we can say we got a 3-4 ILB?
I'd much rather resign an underrated, team 1st minded guy who wants to be here cus he loves the team, he knows the system and most importantly he's a good player. Fine he's not a 3-4 player but really, he was invisible out there and considering the transition they went thru, that's not a bad thing. He'll improve, he'll resign and next year we can properly upgrade the position instead of just doing it for the sake of doing it.
That's ridiculous. How can we compete without all-stars at every position?
You made me laugh, but I totally agree. I like Rocky and I'd love to have him back. I wouldn't be adding zeroes to get him to stay, but unlike Rogers he wasn't burning bridges and I'd like to give him the chance to stay.
+1
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:35 am
by fleetus
stewart Bradley might be an improvement if they signed him. He's 6'3" - 258 lbs and has been the starting MLB for the Eagles past few years. He tore up his knee in 2009 and had concussion issues last year. But might be worth the risk and would add some nice size to compliment London in the middle. Good depth and competition at ILB even if we kept Rocky.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:22 am
by frankcal20
#Redskins source: Team's plan is to let Rocky McIntosh move on to new club and to promote Perry Riley to the starting ILB spot he'll vacate.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:24 am
by 1niksder
frankcal20 wrote:#Redskins source: Team's plan is to let Rocky McIntosh move on to new club and to promote Perry Riley to the starting ILB spot he'll vacate.
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:25 am
by frankcal20
@anthonyfkellyii
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:28 am
by spudstr04
frankcal20 wrote:@anthonyfkellyii
You follow me & vise versa
just added you @WildcatTeacher
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:28 am
by fleetus
frankcal20 wrote:#Redskins source: Team's plan is to let Rocky McIntosh move on to new club and to promote Perry Riley to the starting ILB spot he'll vacate.
Yeah, but you have to have depth and competition at that spot. If there is one thing I've learned about Shanahan over the past year, is that he believes in stiff competition at every position. Perry Riley is a young guy that has accomplished zip in his short career. he needs to earn this position by out-working, out-playing one or two other players. So, I don't think we need to sign a high priced free agent, but maybe one or two young LB's who have upside.
Stewart Bradley fits that mold because he has shown he can rack up well over 100 tackles in a season, but has had a couple of odd seasons due to injury. With his size, he might actually be a better fit in a 3-4. If he can be signed for less than premium prices due to his issues the last two years, he would provide good depth and competition.
(whereas players like Burnett, Tulloch and Ruud would probably command more money and expect to be handed the starting job)
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:29 am
by Red_One43
frankcal20 wrote:#Redskins source: Team's plan is to let Rocky McIntosh move on to new club and to promote Perry Riley to the starting ILB spot he'll vacate.
I have said it many times before. Riley is the real deal and from round 4 a real steal.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:31 am
by 1niksder
Thought that was you.... Only Realtor that I follow
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:23 am
by fleetus
Red_One43 wrote:frankcal20 wrote:#Redskins source: Team's plan is to let Rocky McIntosh move on to new club and to promote Perry Riley to the starting ILB spot he'll vacate.
I have said it many times before. Riley is the real deal and from round 4 a real steal.
Why do you say this? Seriously, I'd like to know. I'd love for him to blossom into a beast at ILB, but the little I've seen of him was mediocre at best. This is to be expected of a 2nd year 4th rounder learning a new defensive system. So, what is your insight to believe Riley is the real deal?
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:54 am
by Red_One43
fleetus wrote:Red_One43 wrote:frankcal20 wrote:#Redskins source: Team's plan is to let Rocky McIntosh move on to new club and to promote Perry Riley to the starting ILB spot he'll vacate.
I have said it many times before. Riley is the real deal and from round 4 a real steal.
Why do you say this? Seriously, I'd like to know. I'd love for him to blossom into a beast at ILB, but the little I've seen of him was mediocre at best. This is to be expected of a 2nd year 4th rounder learning a new defensive system. So, what is your insight to believe Riley is the real deal?
I am glad that you asked. Did you hear how Mike and Shanny gushed when they drafted this guy? Have you listened how they talk about this guy? Do you remember when Riley had those two blocks in the back in the Minnesota game. One cost us a Banks TD. Shanny refused demote him and said that he loves the motor on this guy. To be honest, all along my belief in Riley has been a hunch that Shanny and Haz love this guy so much, they might just let him compete for Rocky's job. So far the rumors, say my hunch was right. It is still early yet.
Take a look at the guys upsides and try to remember every time Haz or Mike spoke about Riley, they didn't just speak, they gushed about the guy.
Perry Riley is an underrated player who was very productive and effective as a starter for 2 years at L.S.U. He is an excellent run stopper who lets nothing get by him on the ground, terrific form tackler, rarely misses tackles, smart player, diagnoses plays very quickly, and is great in pursuit, take pristine angles to the ball, wades through traffic well, and wraps up and take down the ball carrier. On the downside, Riley offers nothing as a pass rusher, and is pretty bad in coverage, both zone and man, he needs to get his hips around quicker, position himself better in zone, and stay with his assigned man. Riley will most likely find his spot as a strong side linebacker in a 4-3 defense, but could potentially play any linebacker position. Riley is a mid round prospect, probably will get picked in the 4th or 5th round.
Look at the adjectives that describe him before the downside description.
underrated
excellent run stopper
terrific form tackler
wraps up well
rarely misses tackles
wades through traffic well
the downsides:
Are probably what you have seen and why he was a 4th round pick. The guy was a rookie last year. He made mistakes. At least from the media he received good reviews in his appearance in the ILB position.
True to Shanny - He believes that he can fix these downsides, but the upsides of this guy are that of a stud starting linebacker.
http://www.nfldraftgeek.com/priley.html
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:29 am
by andre.carter29
Chris Luva Luva wrote:It makes sense for him to stay and for us to keep him.
Why bring in an unknown, average 3-4 player who doesn't know the system just so that we can say we got a 3-4 ILB?
I'd much rather resign an underrated, team 1st minded guy who wants to be here cus he loves the team, he knows the system and most importantly he's a good player. Fine he's not a 3-4 player but really, he was invisible out there and considering the transition they went thru, that's not a bad thing. He'll improve, he'll resign and next year we can properly upgrade the position instead of just doing it for the sake of doing it.
yeah,since he made a geart to the team.