"If the Patriots consider trading up in the first round of the NFL Draft, I think Washington's No. 10 spot is a logical place as a starting point. The Redskins are without third- and fourth-round picks, and by moving down seven spots could replenish their mid-round supply."
After the success of Randy Moss in New England. Why wouldn't the Pats want Julio Jones. He's as tall - little Bigger - as fast - can block and plays every down.
Perhaps they would be interested in trading up for him if he is still on the board at #10.
"If the Patriots consider trading up in the first round of the NFL Draft, I think Washington's No. 10 spot is a logical place as a starting point. The Redskins are without third- and fourth-round picks, and by moving down seven spots could replenish their mid-round supply."
That would be a dream scenario. If we do trade back with NE, we would probably get a 2nd rounder (the 60th pick) to go along with their 17th pick. With the 17th pick, I would love to land either Cameron Jordon or JJ Watt, and with our two 2nd rounders I would love any 2 of these four: Wisneiwski, Kapernick, Torrey Smith, Acho. Kapernick and Ponder are the only 2 QBs I like in this draft. Wisneiski is an animal at the G position and can play C. He's a future pro bowler. Torrey Smith should become a solid WR, and Acho would be a nice compliment to Rak.
@ #17 I would choose from Cameron Jordan or Justin Houston. Depending on who we got at 17 will tell us who we need in the 2nd. I think we need OLB, DL, OL and QB.
A combo of Cameron Jordan (1st), Brooks Reed/Akeem Ayers (2nd) and Rodney Hudson (2nd) would be awesome. But then we get no QB. So maybe this combo makes more sense:
skins2357 wrote:@ #17 I would choose from Cameron Jordan or Justin Houston. Depending on who we got at 17 will tell us who we need in the 2nd. I think we need OLB, DL, OL and QB.
A combo of Cameron Jordan (1st), Brooks Reed/Akeem Ayers (2nd) and Rodney Hudson (2nd) would be awesome. But then we get no QB. So maybe this combo makes more sense:
just because I dont think he will last until the 2nd round. I could see another QB like Dalton or Ponder maybe in the 2nd round? I dont know, just an idea
Mike/Bruce - If your going to spring big this year in Free Agency, please spring big on offensive lineman! I cant watch Rabach anymore!
skins2357 wrote:just because I dont think he will last until the 2nd round. I could see another QB like Dalton or Ponder maybe in the 2nd round? I dont know, just an idea
I like your last sentence - that sums up the pre- draft for us fantasy guys.
Hey, if he is your guy and you want him, you can't chance it that he will slide past Seattle in the first round. I understand where you are coming from. It just stands to reason that a guy who could possibly have been the #1 pick last year will be able to pull it back together after sitting on an NFL bench for a year. Despite all the pre-draft knocks on him, I still am a Locker fan, but Dalton is my main QB man.
"If the Patriots consider trading up in the first round of the NFL Draft, I think Washington's No. 10 spot is a logical place as a starting point. The Redskins are without third- and fourth-round picks, and by moving down seven spots could replenish their mid-round supply."
I would love to get their #17 pick in the 1st round and a 2nd rounder.
Who would you pick at 17?
WHO CARES?
Let's try & trade out of the 17th spot too
IF we can add to our draft picks - it's all good! - the more picks we can get in the top 2 or 3 rounds the better
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
"If the Patriots consider trading up in the first round of the NFL Draft, I think Washington's No. 10 spot is a logical place as a starting point. The Redskins are without third- and fourth-round picks, and by moving down seven spots could replenish their mid-round supply."
"If the Patriots consider trading up in the first round of the NFL Draft, I think Washington's No. 10 spot is a logical place as a starting point. The Redskins are without third- and fourth-round picks, and by moving down seven spots could replenish their mid-round supply."
Sounds too good to be true . . . which is what makes me think it is.
Then again, it's been about ten years since we last got a sweet deal in the draft (thank you, Ricky and Ditka!). So maybe it's our turn again to get something decent.
Irn-Bru wrote:Sounds too good to be true . . . which is what makes me think it is.
Then again, it's been about ten years since we last got a sweet deal in the draft (thank you, Ricky and Ditka!). So maybe it's our turn again to get something decent.
Things could get very interesting if the draft happens before free agency as it looks like right now BUT it is never easy to trade down
We are still in a bit of a mess and have a lot of needs but we also need to get a lot of younger players in here in the next 2 drafts
fortunately we have guys in charge right now that are good football people (especially when you consider who we had for the last 10 years here) - we all know they made some mistakes with both players and offensive and defensive schemes but these guys know that they better get things headed in the right direction and soon or they will be gone
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
A New England blogger reaches on a draft trade scenario completely counter to everything the Bill Belichick era New England Patriots have done in his tenure and now there is a thread acting as though it is a real possibility. We need this lockout to go away. People are really starting to reach for things to discuss.
If a top rushing OLB drops to no. 10 Bellicheck will make a push to trade. No way he will do it for a WR. When has Bellicheck done this? Never ever has he traded up for offensive players.
Think about it. The Pats weakness last year was defense. The defense improved but was not as good as years past. Bellicheck is ultimatley a defensive guy he will make a deal if a top defensive player most likely an OLB is available at no. 10. No way he does it for a WR.
The fact is that if the BPA is J Jones, then we are taking him if we cannot get someone else to trade with us - not sure the FO guys think that way
IMO - if there is a QB there they like, I'm sure they'll take him and not try and trade down which is maybe not a bad idea either - we need to COMPLETELY re-build this team and if we can get the QB of the future, I'm all for it
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SkinsJock wrote:The fact is that if the BPA is J Jones, then we are taking him if we cannot get someone else to trade with us - not sure the FO guys think that way
IMO - if there is a QB there they like, I'm sure they'll take him and not try and trade down which is maybe not a bad idea either - we need to COMPLETELY re-build this team and if we can get the QB of the future, I'm all for it
I agree that if a good QB is available we will pull the trigger. However to me this is a very weak class for QBs. There is talent but none of these Qbs have polished and refined there skills like some of the past great QB draft classes.
With that said I think Mike thinks he can snag a QB in the second round and coach him up like Jake Locker.
The safe pick would be on a good offensive tackle, OLB or even a NT.
spudstr04 wrote:
I would love to get their #17 pick in the 1st round and a 2nd rounder.
Who would you pick at 17?
WHO CARES?
Let's try & trade out of the 17th spot too
IF we can add to our draft picks - it's all good! - the more picks we can get in the top 2 or 3 rounds the better
I can go for that - rather than get the Pats #17 how about their later 1st round pick and get more picks?
TCIYM wrote:A New England blogger reaches on a draft trade scenario completely counter to everything the Bill Belichick era New England Patriots have done in his tenure and now there is a thread acting as though it is a real possibility. We need this lockout to go away. People are really starting to reach for things to discuss.
TCIYM wrote:A New England blogger reaches on a draft trade scenario completely counter to everything the Bill Belichick era New England Patriots have done in his tenure and now there is a thread acting as though it is a real possibility. We need this lockout to go away. People are really starting to reach for things to discuss.
Such a killjoy
Don't mean to be but the last time the Patriots traded up was 2006, and before that, 2004. They just don't make a habit of trading up. Not to mention, we have no proof the Redskins are trading down, and no way of knowing what players will be on the board at #10. Too many questions and no answers amounts to unfounded speculation. If the last 20 years have taught me anything it is to be jaded and expect the worst possible outcome in every situation.
SkinsJock wrote:The fact is that if the BPA is J Jones, then we are taking him if we cannot get someone else to trade with us - not sure the FO guys think that way
IMO - if there is a QB there they like, I'm sure they'll take him and not try and trade down which is maybe not a bad idea either - we need to COMPLETELY re-build this team and if we can get the QB of the future, I'm all for it
I agree that if a good QB is available we will pull the trigger. However to me this is a very weak class for QBs. There is talent but none of these Qbs have polished and refined there skills like some of the past great QB draft classes.
With that said I think Mike thinks he can snag a QB in the second round and coach him up like Jake Locker.
The safe pick would be on a good offensive tackle, OLB or even a NT.
OT makes no sense at #10. The only OL picked that early is LT & we have T Will.
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TCIYM wrote:Don't mean to be but the last time the Patriots traded up was 2006, and before that, 2004. They just don't make a habit of trading up. Not to mention, we have no proof the Redskins are trading down, and no way of knowing what players will be on the board at #10. Too many questions and no answers amounts to unfounded speculation. If the last 20 years have taught me anything it is to be jaded and expect the worst possible outcome in every situation.
But those years aren't like this year, particularly when it comes to the Patriots. The Pats are almost too good and have almost too many picks. If they can't trade into the 2012 draft (or if they don't want to because nobody's 100% sure that there's even going to be a 2012 draft), they've got more picks in the top 100 than they likely do roster spots. At that point, it's far more important to get the players they want than what it costs, sort of like what happened when the Chargers traded up to get Eric Weddle and Ryan Mathews. Nothing's worth less than a pick spent on a guy who couldn't make the roster.
Let's try & trade out of the 17th spot too
IF we can add to our draft picks - it's all good! - the more picks we can get in the top 2 or 3 rounds the better
I like your thinking, but honestly given our draft history we really need some of those can't miss high first round picks like Orakpo. We don't have a great history of doing much with guys in the later rounds! hah.
Things could get very interesting if the draft happens before free agency as it looks like right now BUT it is never easy to trade down 
