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Now here this: Colts cut Sanders.

Do we want him?
Can we use him for leadership?
Is he still any good?
Does he have MUCH left in the tank?

INDIANAPOLIS -- Bob Sanders couldn't stay healthy and the Indianapolis Colts couldn't afford to keep investing in the oft-injured safety.

Team owner Jim Irsay released the 2007 NFL defensive player of the year Friday, announcing the decision less than 24 hours after he told reporters he would make a decision about Sanders' future before March 3.

"We thank Bob for all his incredible contributions, from his Super Bowl interception to his defensive player of the year honor," Irsay said in a statement.

The move was not a major surprise. After winning the league's top defensive honor, Sanders signed a five-year, $37.5 million contract but played in only nine regular-season games the next three seasons.

With safety Antoine Bethea signing a four-year, $27 million contract last summer; Melvin Bullitt, Sanders' backup, emerging as a competent starter; and the Colts still trying to sign four-time league MVP Peyton Manning to a new long-term deal, there wasn't enough room to keep Sanders.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6135553

Guy can't stay healthy, it seems. Players don't become more durable the minute they walk in Redskins Park, so I think I'll pass on Sanders.

tribeofjudah wrote:Now here this: Colts cut Sanders.

Do we want him?

We want him and need a player like him.

Can we use him for leadership?

This is the type of player we need more of. He will make others better by his work ethic and leadership

Is he still any good?

He is still as good as any safety out there

Does he have MUCH left in the tank?

Perhaps, as a free safety in our system, he won't be around the line of scrimmage as much which will allow him to stay healty.

Here's the question, you left out - how much will he cost? Will other teams avoid him like the plague that plague of injuries that he has? In that case, he won't cost much - sign him now! If somebody else out their covets him and a bidding war starts - let him go if the cost becomes rediculous.

I would take him but only for a certain price especially with his injury issues. If we pick up him or Otogwe that would be great.

Old vet who's likely to be on the sidelines more than on the field. Something tells me I've heard this before . . .

Mike Brown, former stud Bear SS, was in a similar situation after the 2008 season. He was often injured and released by the Bears because he couldn't stay on the field.

The Chiefs picked him up for 2009. Here are his stats for 2009

At 31 years old -
2009 Kansas City Chiefs 16 Games 16 Games Started 103 Tackles 2.0 Sacks 3 pass defended 3 interceptions

Note - he started all 16 games and and played very well. This does not prove that Bob Sanders will remain on the field for his next team. It does show that an injury prone guy can mangage to pull it together with a little luck

Why did the chiefs not sign him for 2010? They drafted Eric Berry. Plus Mike Brown was going on 32 years old for 2010. Most important he cost too much as a back up.

Bob Sanders is 4 years younger than Brown. Sanders would have to switch to FS but that should not be hard for a cover 2 guy. The major issue would come down to money.

In the words of former DB, Tryon, the Colts have a winning atitude. We could use some of that attitude here. Do I believe we will get Sanders? No, he will cost too much. Someone will overpay.

Here are Mike Browns career stats to prove how injury prone he was:

http://www.nfl.com/players/mikebrown/pr ... =BRO564631

More realiatically, Sanders might end up with the Vikings because Leslie Frazier was a coach under Tony Dungy with the Colts and the Vikings need to upgrade their safety position.

Answering my question about costs to signing him, the article below addresses it by saying the contract could have per game roster bonuses.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... b-sanders/

Irn-Bru wrote:Old vet who's likely to be on the sidelines more than on the field. Something tells me I've heard this before . . .

I agree. He has played in only 48 games in 7 seasons.

Looks like the Jags are taking a look at Bob Sanders.

Buffalo is next on his tour.

Red_One43 wrote:Mike Brown, former stud Bear SS, was in a similar situation after the 2008 season. He was often injured and released by the Bears because he couldn't stay on the field.

The Chiefs picked him up for 2009. Here are his stats for 2009

At 31 years old -
2009 Kansas City Chiefs 16 Games 16 Games Started 103 Tackles 2.0 Sacks 3 pass defended 3 interceptions

Note - he started all 16 games and and played very well. This does not prove that Bob Sanders will remain on the field for his next team. It does show that an injury prone guy can mangage to pull it together with a little luck

Why did the chiefs not sign him for 2010? They drafted Eric Berry. Plus Mike Brown was going on 32 years old for 2010. Most important he cost too much as a back up.

Bob Sanders is 4 years younger than Brown. Sanders would have to switch to FS but that should not be hard for a cover 2 guy. The major issue would come down to money.

In the words of former DB, Tryon, the Colts have a winning atitude. We could use some of that attitude here. Do I believe we will get Sanders? No, he will cost too much. Someone will overpay.

Here are Mike Browns career stats to prove how injury prone he was:

http://www.nfl.com/players/mikebrown/pr ... =BRO564631

Slight difference in that for the Bears, Mike Brown had 4 seasons where he played 16 games in a season, and 1 season where he played 15 games. In fact, that 15 game season was the season right before he left for the Chiefs. There was evidence he could be healthy.

Whereas, Bob Sanders has never played 16 games in a regular season. He has played 7 seasons for the Colts, which made him eligible to play in 112 regular season games. Yet, Sanders had played in only 47 games. That's not even half! By contrast, Mike Green played in more games in his first 3 seasons alone.

And, more problematic, Sanders's past 3 seasons have gone like this:

2008: 6 games played
2009: 2 games played.
2010: DNP

That's a bad trend. This guy is done.

PulpExposure wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:Mike Brown, former stud Bear SS, was in a similar situation after the 2008 season. He was often injured and released by the Bears because he couldn't stay on the field.

The Chiefs picked him up for 2009. Here are his stats for 2009

At 31 years old -
2009 Kansas City Chiefs 16 Games 16 Games Started 103 Tackles 2.0 Sacks 3 pass defended 3 interceptions

Note - he started all 16 games and and played very well. This does not prove that Bob Sanders will remain on the field for his next team. It does show that an injury prone guy can mangage to pull it together with a little luck

Why did the chiefs not sign him for 2010? They drafted Eric Berry. Plus Mike Brown was going on 32 years old for 2010. Most important he cost too much as a back up.

Bob Sanders is 4 years younger than Brown. Sanders would have to switch to FS but that should not be hard for a cover 2 guy. The major issue would come down to money.

In the words of former DB, Tryon, the Colts have a winning atitude. We could use some of that attitude here. Do I believe we will get Sanders? No, he will cost too much. Someone will overpay.

Here are Mike Browns career stats to prove how injury prone he was:

http://www.nfl.com/players/mikebrown/pr ... =BRO564631

Slight difference in that for the Bears, Mike Brown had 4 seasons where he played 16 games in a season, and 1 season where he played 15 games. In fact, that 15 game season was the season right before he left for the Chiefs. There was evidence he could be healthy.

Whereas, Bob Sanders has never played 16 games in a regular season. He has played 7 seasons for the Colts, which made him eligible to play in 112 regular season games. Yet, Sanders had played in only 47 games. That's not even half! By contrast, Mike Green played in more games in his first 3 seasons alone.

And, more problematic, Sanders's past 3 seasons have gone like this:

2008: 6 games played
2009: 2 games played.
2010: DNP

That's a bad trend. This guy is done.

Good points especially the fact the Brown played 4 - 16 game seasons and showing the last three of Bob Sanders.

One point that I heard on the radio that I didn't consider is it is rare to bring in a new guy and switch his position at the same time. Bob would be going from SS to FS. I am sure that he can make the transition, but coaches don't like to fill a need with a transitioning player.

One note, our Landry might end up like Mike Brown and Bob Sanders the way he played last season. I love the way he played but how can one's body hold up to that? Don't ask Mike or Bob!

One of the questions that GM and coaches will look at concerning BOb Sanders is why is he getting hurt so often.

Was he injury prone in college? The answer is no. He had only one injury.

So what is the problem with Bob? Why can’t he stay healthy?

There are two factors to look at when answering this question. The first is that Bob’s best quality is also his biggest liability. Bob uses his body like a human missile. Hence, the nicknames the “Hitman” and the “Eraser."

The problem is that Bob is only 5’8” tall and weighs 206 lbs. Think about the fact that Bob is often hitting guys, at top speed, who weigh 25 to 100 pounds more than him. He literally has to use his whole body to make devastating tackles.

The second problem is not Bob's fault.

The system that Ron Meeks and Tony Dungy employed in Indy used a bunch of guys in the front seven, who were so undersized, that they could not stop the run. Ron Meeks' answer to the problem was to use Bob as a heat seeking missile, to drop running backs in their tracks. He did what the front seven couldn’t do—tackle players and bring them to the ground.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that this approach was going to take a toll on Bob’s body.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2682 ... ob-sanders

A move to FS and playing behind a stronger D line will prolong Bob Sanders' career. Let's look at LaRon Landry. His first three years, he only misses one game. Last season, his fourth, Landry is asked to play in the box and help stuff the run. Like Sanders, the D line was like a sieve for running backs. Landry's fourth year 9 games. Landry didn't just have the Achillies injury. He also had the wrist injury for which he just had surgery. By week 9, he was all banged up. There is no way that Landry can survive a 16 game season under the same conditions next year and he won't have too. We will address the D line in the off-season. Now, back to Bob. With a revamped line and LB corps and Landry stuffing the run at SS. Bob will no longer have to be the missle to plow full steam into RBs play after play. Again, the contract offered to him, would have to be incentive laden toward games played. If someone else offers him something better let him walk.

I would love to see Bob Sanders playing for the Redskins. But, only if the price was right and you might have to put a clause in his contract regarding injuries.

Pinch hitter for LL30, but he would cost too much, we need a true FS, not another converted one (even if he is a cover 2 guy)

We have now heard (3/4/2011) that Bob Sanders will be playing out at San Diego

all the best to him

Adam Shefter reports that Sanders is staying in the AFC and will sign a one-year deal with the San Diego Chargers. Reports that Bob Sanders broke his hand signing the contract and is out for season were immediately dispelled, but his injury history is the reason the deal is for only one year

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/3/4 ... d-chargers