Should the Redskins cut Gano?

Redskinsfansince81 · Post by **Redskinsfansince81** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:10 pm

And what argument can you make for him staying if they shouldn't cut him?

He only made 68% of his field goals. A good professional should make
around 80-82%.
He missed field goals in games that could have a made a difference in the outcome of the game.

TCIYM · Post by **TCIYM** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:26 pm

Gano had the worst percentage of any kicker with more then 15 attempts. He should be forced to earn a job next season at the very least.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:40 pm

We should keep him... I like how animated he gets when he misses, and is looking for someone to blame.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:45 pm

Why not keep him here until we find a replacement. We brought in other kickers at the end of the year but no one panned out. Also, history has shown that it takes 3 years for kickers to work out their kinks. Let him stay, see what you've got over more than one year and if he can't show improvement next year, then cut him or bring someone else in early in the season. Either way, can't always throw away young talent. That's been the issue for a long time with this franchise. Work through it and coach the kid up.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:45 pm

I don't know. I think we endured a year of his kicking. I think we should hold on to him and see if he learned anything, can improve in the offseason. Definitely should bring in some competition for him though.

SKINFAN · Post by **SKINFAN** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:45 pm

Countertrey wrote:We should keep him... I like how animated he gets when he misses, and is looking for someone to blame.

that was soooo skins 08-09, we are different now

TeeterSalad · Post by **TeeterSalad** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:45 pm

Yes please. Why does it seem like it's is so difficult for this team to find a reliable kicker?

Gano is ranked 38th in FG Pct. How do you keep a guy like that around?

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:49 pm

Frank notes:

history has shown that it takes 3 years for kickers to work out their kinks.

This is absolutely true... There's a stubby kicker in Phily, whom, had we been more patient, would have spent an entire career here.

TeeterSalad · Post by **TeeterSalad** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:07 pm

Countertrey wrote:Frank notes:
history has shown that it takes 3 years for kickers to work out their kinks.
This is absolutely true... There's a stubby kicker in Phily, whom, had we been more patient, would have spent an entire career here.

I don't think Gano will ever be as good as Akers, no matter how many seasons he plays here. I just don't see any kicker that cannot consistenly make 20-35 yard feild goals sticking around. If we are trying to build a competetive team we need a kicker that can be depended on for those (what should be) "gimme" kicks.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:12 pm

Kicking is very similar to golf (the motion that is). Sure they are gimmie's but it's like when your ball is right off the green. You've got 120 yds to fly the ball - perfect PW or Lob Wedge depending on your range of club. When the pressures on or you feel it's an easy shot, most of us amateurs flub it. Look at pro golfers for that matter - a good portion do not put it where it needs to be. Kicking is mostly mental. If you're kicking in the NFL, you've got the leg strength. That's not the issue, it's the mental part and confidence, repetition and ability to handle the pressure is the key to making kicks. It's not as easy as some think. Hell I hear all the time on the college boards that since we don't have a kicker, bring in a soccer play and he can do it. It's not that easy and that's why good dependable kickers stay on teams for most of the time, their entire career.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:39 pm

TeeterSalad wrote:
Countertrey wrote:Frank notes:
history has shown that it takes 3 years for kickers to work out their kinks.
This is absolutely true... There's a stubby kicker in Phily, whom, had we been more patient, would have spent an entire career here.
I don't think Gano will ever be as good as Akers, no matter how many seasons he plays here. I just don't see any kicker that cannot consistenly make 20-35 yard feild goals sticking around. If we are trying to build a competetive team we need a kicker that can be depended on for those (what should be) "gimme" kicks.

Yeah its apparently very easy to find those guys.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:07 pm

TeeterSalad wrote:I don't think Gano will ever be as good as Akers, no matter how many seasons he plays here. I just don't see any kicker that cannot consistenly make 20-35 yard feild goals sticking around. If we are trying to build a competetive team we need a kicker that can be depended on for those (what should be) "gimme" kicks.

I always wonder why that is. Most major colleges have no problem usually having decent kickers and their careers are a lot shorter. I wonder why kicking is so different in the pros that you can't at least sign an OK kicker whenever you need one. Gano is so bad.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:12 pm

Redskinsfansince81 wrote:And what argument can you make for him staying if they shouldn't cut him?

He only made 68% of his field goals. A good professional should make
around 80-82%.
He missed field goals in games that could have a made a difference in the outcome of the game.

He's got the leg for it and was good on kickoffs this year. We just need to find a way to develop his ability to deal with pressure. I say do two things:

(1) During the summer camps bring in another kicker with some direct competition, and
(2) Do a drill that John Madden used to put his kickers through. At the end of practice, line up the entire team on the goal line looking at the kicker some 40-50 yards out. If he makes the kick, the practice ends. If he misses, then the team has to do serious wind sprints.

I wouldn't be too sad if we let Gano go this offseason. What's one more year with a terrible kicking situation? I feel like we've had one for as long as I've been a Redskins fan.

TeeterSalad · Post by **TeeterSalad** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:12 pm

riggofan wrote:
TeeterSalad wrote:
Countertrey wrote:Frank notes: This is absolutely true... There's a stubby kicker in Phily, whom, had we been more patient, would have spent an entire career here.
I don't think Gano will ever be as good as Akers, no matter how many seasons he plays here. I just don't see any kicker that cannot consistenly make 20-35 yard feild goals sticking around. If we are trying to build a competetive team we need a kicker that can be depended on for those (what should be) "gimme" kicks.
Yeah its apparently very easy to find those guys.

Well theres at least 31 other kickers that played this season that did better than Gano from 20-39 yards out; that would be a good place to start looking.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:53 pm

Should the Redskins cut Gano? - the only way that Gano has another attempt at a FG or PAT at FedEx is if he's on another team

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:58 pm

The kid has a pretty good leg. You can't teach that. You can teach the guy to be more consistent in his approach, with the right coaching, of course. The K position has been a revolving door seemingly since Mosely retired. We had a few good years of Lohmiller, than he stunk. I would give this kid a shot. I know he missed 10+ FG this year, which is nothing to sneeze at, but he also hit 3 GW OT FG, which might be something to build on.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:53 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
TeeterSalad wrote:I don't think Gano will ever be as good as Akers, no matter how many seasons he plays here. I just don't see any kicker that cannot consistenly make 20-35 yard feild goals sticking around. If we are trying to build a competetive team we need a kicker that can be depended on for those (what should be) "gimme" kicks.
I always wonder why that is. Most major colleges have no problem usually having decent kickers and their careers are a lot shorter. I wonder why kicking is so different in the pros that you can't at least sign an OK kicker whenever you need one. Gano is so bad.

College kickers are allowed to use a 1 inch tee for scoring attempts... not so in the NFL... It makes a difference.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:39 pm

I agree C'Trey BUT the fact is this kid has a very good leg and yet he missed a number of kicks that he should make - this is the NFL and these guys are getting paid a lot of money to kick FGs and that is all they have to do - that is all they have to work on

I'm sorry - this guy looked really promising but you cannot have a kicker that misses a number of fairly easy kicks - some, but not a number of them

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:58 pm

Countertrey wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
TeeterSalad wrote:I don't think Gano will ever be as good as Akers, no matter how many seasons he plays here. I just don't see any kicker that cannot consistenly make 20-35 yard feild goals sticking around. If we are trying to build a competetive team we need a kicker that can be depended on for those (what should be) "gimme" kicks.
I always wonder why that is. Most major colleges have no problem usually having decent kickers and their careers are a lot shorter. I wonder why kicking is so different in the pros that you can't at least sign an OK kicker whenever you need one. Gano is so bad.
College kickers are allowed to use a 1 inch tee for scoring attempts... not so in the NFL... It makes a difference.

Ah, thanks!

chiefhog44 · Post by **chiefhog44** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:49 pm

My Gano, err I mean Gut says no

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:43 pm

He isn't impressing me any. I say good riddance.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:31 pm

SkinsJock wrote:I agree C'Trey BUT the fact is this kid has a very good leg and yet he missed a number of kicks that he should make - this is the NFL and these guys are getting paid a lot of money to kick FGs and that is all they have to do - that is all they have to work on

I'm sorry - this guy looked really promising but you cannot have a kicker that misses a number of fairly easy kicks - some, but not a number of them

SJ... I was answering a question... seriously. Not "defending" Gano.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:44 pm

no worries - I was not trying to make you see it any differently either

I was a Gano supporter - I thought he had a great leg and would be a reliable FG kicker PLUS he put a lot of kick-offs deep

we both need a change UNLESS Danny Smith "sees" something there - this guy does have a good leg but he has to be a lot more consistent

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:53 am

If we were going to replace him I think we would have done so before now. We might bing in another kicker for competition in camp, but I believe Shanahan is going to stick with him.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:32 am

Skinsfan55 wrote:If we were going to replace him I think we would have done so before now. We might bing in another kicker for competition in camp, but I believe Shanahan is going to stick with him.

Well... I won't dispute that it's worth a gamble. He has a bigtime leg... and has shown that he can kick in the clutch...

His issue is consistency. That, no doubt, resides soley in his head. Maybe it can be fixed... maybe it can't. Competition might help.

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