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I'm Done. I'm Out. After three decades watching and rooting for this team, I can't stand it any longer. The absolute, sheer, complete and total lack of talent and/or interest of the players, coaches, management and owner of the Washington Redskins has finally shown through fully enough that I can no longer continue to waste my time, money, energy, and interest on this team.

I will be sending registered letters to Daniel Snyder, Bruce Allen, and Mike Shannahan tomorrow informing them of this.

I wish the best to you all, the fans who continue to brave the great abyss that the Washington Redskins have become; but I cannot continue to be among you and I cannot wish anything other than failure, despair, and disgrace to what this franchise has become.


Scott *****
Spencer, MA

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:I'm Done. I'm Out. After three decades watching and rooting for this team, I can't stand it any longer. The absolute, sheer, complete and total lack of talent and/or interest of the players, coaches, management and owner of the Washington Redskins has finally shown through fully enough that I can no longer continue to waste my time, money, energy, and interest on this team.

I will be sending registered letters to Daniel Snyder, Bruce Allen, and Mike Shannahan tomorrow informing them of this.

I wish the best to you all, the fans who continue to brave the great abyss that the Washington Redskins have become; but I cannot continue to be among you and I cannot wish anything other than failure, despair, and disgrace to what this franchise has become.


Scott *****
Spencer, MA

Well I guess you'll have an easier time of it as a Pats fan.

I understand. It is hard to stay with the Skins when there's such a successful franchise just minutes from my door. I'm lifelong and diehard, though, and believe we'll have our day again. I'm stickin' with 'em.

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:I'm Done. I'm Out. After three decades watching and rooting for this team, I can't stand it any longer. The absolute, sheer, complete and total lack of talent and/or interest of the players, coaches, management and owner of the Washington Redskins has finally shown through fully enough that I can no longer continue to waste my time, money, energy, and interest on this team.

I will be sending registered letters to Daniel Snyder, Bruce Allen, and Mike Shannahan tomorrow informing them of this.

I wish the best to you all, the fans who continue to brave the great abyss that the Washington Redskins have become; but I cannot continue to be among you and I cannot wish anything other than failure, despair, and disgrace to what this franchise has become.


Scott *****
Spencer, MA

Goodbye!

ChrisHanburger wrote:Well I guess you'll have an easier time of it as a Pats fan.

I understand. It is hard to stay with the Skins when there's such a successful franchise just minutes from my door. I'm lifelong and diehard, though, and believe we'll have our day again. I'm stickin' with 'em.

I would put a pistol in my mouth and pull the trigger myself before I would EVER, under ANY circumstances. root for the New England Patriots. The Patriots are the absolute epitome of everything that I believe is WRONG with the NFL these days.

No, I'm done with the NFL. There is no other team I could root for. The closest would be the Oakland Raiders, but they're no better off than the Redskins.

We played poor and a retarded block cost us the game against a team that went to the nfc championship. Get over it man.. Fair weather fans have no place in b and g. We have a better record then the pukes so why pout?
Positives: Brandon Banks is a stud and golen grams was perfect. We need the oline from last week the rest of the year.



We are bbetter.. You forget the loooooong list of injuries we have? I'm pist too but come on now.. You ridicule players for giving up then do the same?
WHACK

I wish that I could get hired To be the G.M.

I promise that I would Rant and raise hell every Day with Mr. Synder until we had Elite O and D-lines.

I still believe that to be Elite in the NFL you start in the trenches.

I would Can Rabach so fast he would have skid marks on his Ass from it!!!

I truly believe that this team is moving in a positive direction. Except we are moving extremely slowly. We have hired a super bowl winning coach, a winning quarterback who has no weapons anywhere but chris cooley, and we have young studs on defense. If you dont wanna be a hogs fan then dont be one, nobody cares we will keep moving forward.

cowboykillerzRED wrote:We are bbetter.. You forget the loooooong list of injuries we have? I'm pist too but come on now.. You ridicule players for giving up then do the same?
WHACK

Injuries are part of the game. GOOD TEAMS prepare for them by having qualified backups, not bums from the scrap heap who can't get the job done.... Oh wait... qualified backups are a thing of the PAST. That being before stupid owners like Dan Snyder put in place and have continuously extended a CBA that includes a SALARY CAP.

The players get PAID to show up and play the game. I haven't gotten anything positive out of watching a Redskins game since January of 1992.

northcarolinaredskin wrote:I truly believe that this team is moving in a positive direction. Except we are moving extremely slowly. We have hired a super bowl winning coach, a winning quarterback who has no weapons anywhere but chris cooley, and we have young studs on defense. If you dont wanna be a hogs fan then dont be one, nobody cares we will keep moving forward.

Sorry but it's been NINETEEN YEARS since this team won a game that means anything. That "moving forward" and "positive direction" garbage hasn't meant anything since about Y2K, thank you very much.

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:

ChrisHanburger wrote:Well I guess you'll have an easier time of it as a Pats fan.

I understand. It is hard to stay with the Skins when there's such a successful franchise just minutes from my door. I'm lifelong and diehard, though, and believe we'll have our day again. I'm stickin' with 'em.

I would put a pistol in my mouth and pull the trigger myself before I would EVER, under ANY circumstances. root for the New England Patriots. The Patriots are the absolute epitome of everything that I believe is WRONG with the NFL these days.

No, I'm done with the NFL. There is no other team I could root for. The closest would be the Oakland Raiders, but they're no better off than the Redskins.

Yeah, I pretty much hate the Pats and their fair weather fans. At least you're not jumping to them......

In that case we did pretty good w third string bums against a hall of fame qb w all his weapons and an elite pass rUsher. And we had a chance. So I guess good luck watching AFL

cowboykillerzRED wrote:In that case we did pretty good w third string bums against a hall of fame qb w all his weapons and an elite pass rUsher. And we had a chance. So I guess good luck watching AFL

Nope. I'm done with football entirely. The AFL is no better than the NFL. If the XFL were still around, maybe; but they're long gone at this point.

Peace

Here's the text of the three letters to be sent by certified mail tomorrow....

Sunday, November 28, 2010

Mr. Daniel Snyder
Owner
Washington Redskins
21300 Redskin Park Drive
Ashburn, VA 20147

Mr. Snyder,

I am writing you today to inform you that after almost thirty years as a fan of the Washington Redskins, the National Football League franchise which you purchased from the estate of the late Jack Kent Cooke, I will no longer be able to follow, let alone root for, your franchise.

I do not write this letter with any pleasure. Like you, I grew up a fan of the Washington Redskins during the glory years of the franchise. My memories are filled with the exploits of people like Joe Gibbs, John Riggins, Art Monk, Dexter Manley, and the man who will always be my favorite athlete of all time, Darrell Green. I remember when this franchise was feared around the league. Those days are now gone, and have been for two decades.

With the changes in the management system, rules, and culture of the National Football League since the agreement on a new collective bargaining agreement between the owners and the National Football League Players Association in 1994, the Redskins franchise has struggled mightily. Obviously one would expect that it might take some time for teams to adjust to the new system, and then to the new ownership when you took over half a decade later. It has now been twelve seasons under your ownership group and this franchise is no closer to acquiring a fourth Vince Lombardi Trophy than they were when you took over the team in 1999.

I had been one of your biggest supporters until recent years. As I mentioned earlier, you and I grew up in a similar timeframe in Redskins history and at the beginning of your ownership I felt that you were interested in bucking the trend of simply accepting the new, watered-down, parity driven style that the National Football League management has obviously been promoting. However, in recent years, and with the knowledge that your ownership group voted to extend this current collective bargaining agreement in 2007(?), it has become much more difficult to see the management of this team as promoting anything more than the same disgusting, mediocrity-driven concepts that teams like the Baltimore Ravens and New England Patriots have used to move to the top of the NFL standings in the last decade. That is something which I cannot and will not support in any way.

To that end, and with the full knowledge of the absolute incompetence and disinterest in winning shown by this most recent batch of players, coaches, and management officials which have disgraced the Burgundy and Gold uniforms of this franchise, I must inform you that I can in no way continue to watch, follow, root for or support the Washington Redskins.

With Great Disappointment,

***** * *****

Sunday, November 28, 2010

Mr. Bruce Allen
Executive Vice President/General Manager
Washington Redskins
21300 Redskin Park Drive
Ashburn, VA 20147

Mr. Allen,

I am writing this letter to inform you that you have achieved something which not even your much maligned predecessor Vinny Cerrato was able to accomplish. You have driven this fan of three decades away from the Washington Redskins immediately and permanently.

You have had help in this endeavor and that not all of the credit for this significant highlight of your career belongs to you. Much of the groundwork for this day was laid by the team’s owner, Daniel Snyder, prior Executive Vice President Vinny Cerrato, the former and current coaching staffs, and players of the team. Without their incompetence and lack of effort you wouldn’t have been able to meet this challenge.

You and Coach Shanahan showed up to a lot of fanfare back in January. A lot of undeserved fanfare as far as I am concerned. That sort of positive reaction should be reserved for people who have proven they can get things done where they are now, not where they used to be. This entire year, from the draft to the offseason acquisition of an old, unsuccessful quarterback from a rival team, to the issues with a disgruntled defensive lineman, and the lack of success on the field has been a total failure in my mind. Today’s debacle against a three win team which had yet to win on the road and fired their head coach this week was the final straw. It made the fact that the players, coaches, and organization have no interest in returning to the glory of this franchise’s past very obvious to this lifelong fan.

To that end, and with the full knowledge of the absolute incompetence and disinterest in winning shown by this most recent batch of players, coaches, and management officials which have disgraced the Burgundy and Gold uniforms of this franchise, I must inform you that I can in no way continue to watch, follow, root for or support the Washington Redskins.

With Great Disappointment,

***** * *****



Sunday, November 28, 2010

Mr. Mike Shanahan
Executive Vice President/Head Coach
Washington Redskins
21300 Redskin Park Drive
Ashburn, VA 20147

Mr. Shanahan,

I am writing this letter to inform you that you have accomplished something which none of your predecessors in Washington, even Hall of Fame Head Coach Joe Gibbs were ever able to do. You have driven this fan of three decades away from the Washington Redskins immediately and permanently.

You have had help in this endeavor and that not all of the credit for this significant highlight of your career belongs to you. Much of the groundwork for this day was laid by the team’s owner, Daniel Snyder, prior Executive Vice President Vinny Cerrato, current Executive Vice President Bruce Allen, the former and current coaching staffs, and players of the team. Without their incompetence and lack of effort you wouldn’t have been able to meet this challenge.

You and Executive Vice President/General Manager Bruce Allen showed up to a lot of fanfare back in January. A lot of undeserved fanfare as far as I am concerned. That sort of positive reaction should be reserved for people who have proven they can get things done where they are now, not where they used to be. This entire year, from the draft to the offseason acquisition of an old, unsuccessful quarterback from a rival team, to the issues with a disgruntled defensive lineman, and the lack of success on the field has been a total failure in my mind. Today’s debacle against a three win team which had yet to win on the road and fired their head coach this week was the final straw. It made the fact that the players, coaches, and organization have no interest in returning to the glory of this franchise’s past very obvious to this lifelong fan.

To that end, and with the full knowledge of the absolute incompetence and disinterest in winning shown by this most recent batch of players, coaches, and management officials which have disgraced the Burgundy and Gold uniforms of this franchise, I must inform you that I can in no way continue to watch, follow, root for or support the Washington Redskins.

With Great Disappointment,

***** * *****

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:

northcarolinaredskin wrote:I truly believe that this team is moving in a positive direction. Except we are moving extremely slowly. We have hired a super bowl winning coach, a winning quarterback who has no weapons anywhere but chris cooley, and we have young studs on defense. If you dont wanna be a hogs fan then dont be one, nobody cares we will keep moving forward.

Sorry but it's been NINETEEN YEARS since this team won a game that means anything. That "moving forward" and "positive direction" garbage hasn't meant anything since about Y2K, thank you very much.

Hey? I thought you left. In all seriousness i would love to join you but im a glutton for some serious punishment. See you next week!

spenser wrote:See you next week!

No you won't, actually.

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:

spenser wrote:See you next week!

No you won't, actually.

Ok, then you can stop responding to my responses right? Like are you Gone... or are you... Going... at some point???

The biggest disgrace I see in this thread is the blatant lack of heart and pride some people have.
Redskins fanatic?? Is that a joke? My mom has more pride in our B and G. If you do truly leave delete your account and we can have a true skins fan with the bold name you chose but with the backbone to wear it proudly even during stormy weather.
Btw we lost a close game by four... This hissy fit would have been less embarrassing after the eagles destroyed us on Monday..
Your letters are wiiizzzzeeeeaaak. To say the least. Take pride in something man even if its wrong. Same letter to bruce and mike? Effort is absurd as well as content.

Dude needs to see a therapist. It was a frustrating loss, one of many over the last 20 years, but to be so offended by this particular loss makes no sense to me. There are many more important things in life than the Redskins rebuilding process.

30+ years of rooting here in Cali......but I aint jumping ship...!
No
No
Never
Never

I can't believe that kind of rant from a supposed skins fanatic.
Redskins_fanPanic
Redskins_fairweather
Redskins_ <--- insert anything besides fanatics. I'm not attack the poster the post isn't I'm character of the name so I'm simply offering some ideas.

Like why post that here? Did you expect die hard fans of a mediocre team rebuilding to jump ship with you? Pathetic. We are improving and besides Philly two we are competitive.
Maybe not playoff bound but we have beat a few playoff bound teams 2 wins in the division more then last year a chance to spoil tge giants chances as well as a beautiful chance to shut out the pukes. About all we could hope for this year after only winning 4 games last year.. Ah I guess I'm done w this thread

I truly understand RF. I consider myself a masoquist. for over 10 yrs my wife calls me a Redskin masoquist because I cotinue to punish myself by following the team yr after yr. I tried to raise my first kid (9) to be a Skin fan, but 3 yrs ago he told me he didnt like 'em because they alwas lose. I have been a diehard fan for +25 yrs and keeps getting harder and harder. Do you remember the +11 gm losing streak against the cowturds? hard times for me man.
It's impossible to root for another team, that is uncall for.
I understand you RF, send your letters, maybe someone in the organization will read it and try to do something.
In the mean time, I'll just wait for the season to end without any more embarrasements (like last week lost to the eaglees on national TV, or losing to the lions last yr, or.....)
But being a massoquist, I know I'll be here next yr to keep my punishment like the duracell battery, going and going and going.
HaiL,

I truly understand RF. I consider myself a masoquist. for over 10 yrs my wife calls me a Redskin masoquist because I cotinue to punish myself by following the team yr after yr. I tried to raise my first kid (9) to be a Skin fan, but 3 yrs ago he told me he didnt like 'em because they alwas lose. I have been a diehard fan for +25 yrs and keeps getting harder and harder. Do you remember the +11 gm losing streak against the cowturds? hard times for me man.
It's impossible to root for another team, that is uncall for.
I understand you RF, send your letters, maybe someone in the organization will read it and try to do something.
In the mean time, I'll just wait for the season to end without any more embarrasements (like last week lost to the eaglees on national TV, or losing to the lions last yr, or.....)
But being a massoquist, I know I'll be here next yr to keep my punishment like the duracell battery, going and going and going.
HaiL,

tribeofjudah wrote:30+ years of rooting here in Cali......but I aint jumping ship...!
No
No
Never
Never

I may get mad and cuss them out but I never give up either.

ChrisHanburger wrote:I'm stickin' with 'em.

I don't have a choice. I have way too many Redskins jackets, jerseys, hats, helmets, and a whole array of other team gear to bail ship....