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We need to trade....Haslett
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:19 am
by tribeofjudah
or fire him or cut him or whatever. Shanny didn't get the right pick here.
He hasn't really improved our D.....has he?
His 3-4 scheme sucks.....doesn't it?
He seems clueless to make adjustments, even during halftime....right?
Our beloved team gets ripped to shreds each and every week, it seems.
We put up 28pts playing catch up but the D still get shredded.
I know, I know....players makes the plays, but he doesn't seem like an "effective" coach to motivate and restore this team's dignity.
But who would we get? Who is out there that is better? Who would want this Redskins gig? Who would be an upgrade?
If Shanny wises up, he may be in the market for a NEW defensive coach.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:41 am
by Skinsfan55
Totally agree. But the whole problem is Shanahan's insistence that we use a 3-4 defense. In sports winning teams are the ones who can find inequity in the market, and capitalize on it. For example in baseball "Moneyball" was about how Billy Beane found undervalued commodities like high percentage on base guys. You need to find something of value that works that other teams teams aren't putting as much emphasis on to gain an edge.
Instead the Redskins are employing a 3-4 defense at a time when so many other teams are doing he same. They are fighting with other teams over very limited resources. Big heavy defensive linemen, 250+ pound linebackers etc. Every team switching to a 3-4 is looking for guys in the draft who play DE and hoping they can be converted to OLB. They're looking for huge DT's they hope they cane move to the outside.
Why are we fighting that fight with all these 3-4 teams when we have:
Brian Orakpo who was a dominating DE at Texas.
Albert Haynesworth who was an elite DT in a 3-4 scheme.
Phillip Daniels who's been a DT/DE in a 4-3 his whole career (and a standout player at that!)
Jeremy Jarmon who was a former 3rd round pick as a DE.
Adam Carriker who's only ever been a 4-3 DT in the pros.
Andre Carter who is a star DE with 60 career sacks and 15 career forced fumbles as a defensive end.
London Fletcher who is an elite MLB in a 4-3.
Rocky McIntosh who is one of the best young 4-3 OLBs?
I mean, it's ridiculous to even try and build a 3-4 defense in today's NFL with all the competition... but it makes it worse when you potentially have the pieces for an elite 4-3 defense.
What makes it worse is that even the makers of Madden know this... try changing your Madden Redskins to a 4-3 and your team improves by 5 points.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:29 am
by VetSkinsFan
I second that and vote to add both shanahans. Here's a simple example why.
Eagles first play: 88 yd bomb.
Redskins first DRIVE: 3 runs and out.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:41 am
by 1niksder
We can't trade Haslett...
I don't even think we can give him away
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:42 am
by VetSkinsFan
1niksder wrote:We can't trade Haslett...
I don't even think we can give him away
We can call him Wade, though
Re: We need to trade....Haslett
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:14 am
by CanesSkins26
tribeofjudah wrote:or fire him or cut him or whatever. Shanny didn't get the right pick here.
He hasn't really improved our D.....has he?
His 3-4 scheme sucks.....doesn't it?
He seems clueless to make adjustments, even during halftime....right?
Our beloved team gets ripped to shreds each and every week, it seems.
We put up 28pts playing catch up but the D still get shredded.
I know, I know....players makes the plays, but he doesn't seem like an "effective" coach to motivate and restore this team's dignity.
But who would we get? Who is out there that is better? Who would want this Redskins gig? Who would be an upgrade?
If Shanny wises up, he may be in the market for a NEW defensive coach.
The scheme is a problem for sure, but talent is to blame too. Our secondary, for the most part, is garbage. Yes, Hall has some turnovers, but that masks the fact that he gets beat like a drum on a consistent basis. Moore can't tackles, Rogers cant catch and last night couldn't cover, etc. In addition, we have a serious lack of speed on defense as well.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:28 am
by Redskin in Canada
Defense had been consistently a top five in the NFL over the LEANEST of years throughout recent seasons. People can criticise all they want Gregg Williams and Greg Blache, but they got the best out of the players they had.
Hasleet is a very good coach and he has enjoyed some success in other coaching positions elsewhere.
Just not here ...
The Washington Redskins have become a graveyard for coaches all over the NFL since Daniel Snyder stole this team.
I am sorry guys but the ONLY common denominator around all of this pathetic joke called the Washington Redskins is Daniel Snyder. I sincerely suspect that the stupid owner is still meddling in this team. But if he is, others should have resigned.
I am fed up. I am frustrated. I have enough information collected over the last few weeks to know that this group of coaches and players is not going to get it done. They lost my trust and confidence.
I packed all my hats, jersey and banners yesterday. Not only for the season but for a while longer, I think.
The Skins organization does not get a DARN PENNY out of me again until the team is sold.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:57 am
by VetSkinsFan
Redskin in Canada wrote:Defense had been consistently a top five in the NFL over the LEANEST of years throughout recent seasons. People can criticise all they want Gregg Williams and Greg Blache, but they got the best out of the players they had.
Hasleet is a very good coach and he has enjoyed some success in other coaching positions elsewhere.
Just not here ...
The Washington Redskins have become a graveyard for coaches all over the NFL since Daniel Snyder stole this team.
I am sorry guys but the ONLY common denominator around all of this pathetic joke called the Washington Redskins is Daniel Snyder. I sincerely suspect that the stupid owner is still meddling in this team. But if he is, others should have resigned.
I am fed up. I am frustrated. I have enough information collected over the last few weeks to know that this group of coaches and players is not going to get it done. They lost my trust and confidence.
I packed all my hats, jersey and banners yesterday. Not only for the season but for a while longer, I think.
The Skins organization does not get a DARN PENNY out of me again until the team is sold.
I live in the now. And Haslett is in the now. These aren't WRs trying to play LB and O lineman trying to play CB. These are the best of the best (that's what the NFL is..the best of the best), so don't give me this crap about it's not the coaches. It may not be all the coaches, but they get some of the guilt...especially the nepotism.
Landry
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:04 pm
by CanesSkins26
LaRon Landry at center of the storm with Eagles
By Paul Tenorio
Washington Redskins safety LaRon Landry was involved in controversies before and after the Redskins' 59-28 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday night, one stemming from a pregame scuffle between the teams and another from accusations of spitting by Eagles center Mike McGlynn.
In the locker room after the game, McGlynn told reporters that Landry had spit on him twice during the game on extra points. He said one incident occurred after the Eagles went up 21-0.
Landry adamantly denied the accusations.
"This is my answer: When would I ever be in touch with the center? I never blitz the 'A' gap." Landry said. When told McGlynn said the incidents occurred during extra points, he said: "Extra points? Still, when would I ever be in the 'A' gap? Extra points I'm on the end. With that said, that's your answer."
Before the game, Landry was in the middle of a scrum that broke out between the two teams as the Eagles headed to their locker room after warmups. It appeared the confrontation started between Landry and Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson.
FoxSports.com's Jay Glazer reported on twitter that, according to unnamed sources, Landry and cornerback DeAngelo Hall were "taunting" Jackson before warm-ups and "mocking him getting concussed." Jackson has suffered two concussions in the last two seasons, including one on a hit by Green Bay defensive back Dunta Robinson Oct. 17 that helped bring about an NFL crackdown on hits to the head.
In a text message to a reporter, Hall denied saying anything to Jackson regarding concussions.
After the game, Jackson seemed to play down the jawing but did acknowledge that there was some trash talking.
"It was some disrespectful things that was being said, and I'm not going to get into who said it or what they said but it was just some disrespectful things being said," Jackson said. "Sometimes I think some football players take this football a little too serious and at the end of the day we're human beings and have to have respect for a lot of people. It was just disrespectful but, like I said, we got in an altercation and we was ready to do whatever we needed to do to go out there and get them, so we was ready."
Landry also played down the pre-game altercation as normal jawing between opponents.
"Me and DeSean just was talking. I was nowhere near the play after it happened. After we talked it's over I walked off and then I see the whole crowd," Landry said. "We just talked, we always do that. Me and D-Jack, we ace. So I don't know if they trying to elevate a problem for no reason. The center, I'll keep my mouth shut about him."
Hall said he simply tried to break up the scuffle.
"I don't know what was going on," Hall said. "I kind of came over there towards the end to break it up, peacemaker. I'm kind of getting pulled back and forth. Typical rivalry. ... any time you get two physical teams together, especially teams that don't like each other, things like that are going to happen."
By Paul Tenorio | November 16, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
Categories: LaRon Landry
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/laron-landry/laron-landry-at-center-of-the.html#more
Re: Landry
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:15 pm
by VetSkinsFan
CanesSkins26 wrote:LaRon Landry at center of the storm with Eagles
By Paul Tenorio
Washington Redskins safety LaRon Landry was involved in controversies before and after the Redskins' 59-28 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday night, one stemming from a pregame scuffle between the teams and another from accusations of spitting by Eagles center Mike McGlynn.
In the locker room after the game, McGlynn told reporters that Landry had spit on him twice during the game on extra points. He said one incident occurred after the Eagles went up 21-0.
Landry adamantly denied the accusations.
"This is my answer: When would I ever be in touch with the center? I never blitz the 'A' gap." Landry said. When told McGlynn said the incidents occurred during extra points, he said: "Extra points? Still, when would I ever be in the 'A' gap? Extra points I'm on the end. With that said, that's your answer."
Before the game, Landry was in the middle of a scrum that broke out between the two teams as the Eagles headed to their locker room after warmups. It appeared the confrontation started between Landry and Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson.
FoxSports.com's Jay Glazer reported on twitter that, according to unnamed sources, Landry and cornerback DeAngelo Hall were "taunting" Jackson before warm-ups and "mocking him getting concussed." Jackson has suffered two concussions in the last two seasons, including one on a hit by Green Bay defensive back Dunta Robinson Oct. 17 that helped bring about an NFL crackdown on hits to the head.
In a text message to a reporter, Hall denied saying anything to Jackson regarding concussions.
After the game, Jackson seemed to play down the jawing but did acknowledge that there was some trash talking.
"It was some disrespectful things that was being said, and I'm not going to get into who said it or what they said but it was just some disrespectful things being said," Jackson said. "Sometimes I think some football players take this football a little too serious and at the end of the day we're human beings and have to have respect for a lot of people. It was just disrespectful but, like I said, we got in an altercation and we was ready to do whatever we needed to do to go out there and get them, so we was ready."
Landry also played down the pre-game altercation as normal jawing between opponents.
"Me and DeSean just was talking. I was nowhere near the play after it happened. After we talked it's over I walked off and then I see the whole crowd," Landry said. "We just talked, we always do that. Me and D-Jack, we ace. So I don't know if they trying to elevate a problem for no reason. The center, I'll keep my mouth shut about him."
Hall said he simply tried to break up the scuffle.
"I don't know what was going on," Hall said. "I kind of came over there towards the end to break it up, peacemaker. I'm kind of getting pulled back and forth. Typical rivalry. ... any time you get two physical teams together, especially teams that don't like each other, things like that are going to happen."
By Paul Tenorio | November 16, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
Categories: LaRon Landry
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/laron-landry/laron-landry-at-center-of-the.html#more
I'm positive that Jackson was quoting bible verses while Landry and Hall were being disrespectful.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:20 pm
by markshark84
Redskin in Canada wrote:I packed all my hats, jersey and banners yesterday. Not only for the season but for a while longer, I think.
The Skins organization does not get a DARN PENNY out of me again until the team is sold.
Honestly, I have held (and currently hold) this position. I have done so since 2004. I have not purchased one redskins item in over 5 years. I have not paid for tickets to attend a game in as long. I only have one jersey (that I really don't wear because I believe it to be bad luck -- but now I really don't because I didn't wear it last year and they were even worse) from 2003. I still wear my ripped up 1999 NFC East champions t-shirt to watch games at sports bars -- and yes, I get crap for it.
This team is sort of like a disfunctional brother. You can't stand by and support him while he deteriorates in front of your eyes, but you still love him -- no matter how much you don't want to.
Dan Snyder is at the core of this disfunction -- regardless of how much he tries to divert this away from himself. Dan has had 3 GREAT coaches in his tenure. 1 was fired for no reason, 1 just really failed, and one is about to fail. I have kept hope that Danny boy will eventually learn from his mistakes, but much like a dumb child, he just continues to make the same ones over and over again without understanding why or attempting to learn from them.
But don't think for one second that Snyder will sell the team as long as it is making money. Much like the disfunctional brother, the only way he will realize he hits rock bottom is if he doesn't have the money to continue his destructive path. So yes, I will continue to watch the games on TV and post on non-affiliated websites like this one, but never will I give the organization a penny -- and I am doing this (and have done this) BECAUSE I love the redskins.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:26 pm
by Redskin in Canada
VetSkinsFan wrote:so don't give me this crap about it's not the coaches. It may not be all the coaches, but they get some of the guilt...especially the nepotism.
Where did I say that it was not the coaches also???
In fact, the post states that they are responsible as well. This was a top five NFL defense until they changed philosophy and defensive coach.
What I am saying is that the whole unit is dysfunctional right now. And, yes, that includes the coach!
But it goes even beyond that ... it goes all the way up to the freaking OWNER.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:28 pm
by VetSkinsFan
Redskin in Canada wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:so don't give me this crap about it's not the coaches. It may not be all the coaches, but they get some of the guilt...especially the nepotism.
Where did I say that it was not the coaches also???
In fact, the post states that they are responsible as well. This was a top five NFL defense until they changed philosophy and defensive coach.
What I am saying is that the whole unit is dysfunctional right now. And, yes, that includes the coach!
But it goes even beyond that ... it goes all the way up to the freaking OWNER.
If the owner gave Shanahan full control, how can this be Dan Snyder's fault? I still haven't seen any proof of where Dan has done anything besides sign the checks that Shanahan and Allen want signed.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:30 pm
by markshark84
VetSkinsFan wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:so don't give me this crap about it's not the coaches. It may not be all the coaches, but they get some of the guilt...especially the nepotism.
Where did I say that it was not the coaches also???
In fact, the post states that they are responsible as well. This was a top five NFL defense until they changed philosophy and defensive coach.
What I am saying is that the whole unit is dysfunctional right now. And, yes, that includes the coach!
But it goes even beyond that ... it goes all the way up to the freaking OWNER.
If the owner gave Shanahan full control, how can this be Dan Snyder's fault?
Vet,
I truly hope you know better than this.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:33 pm
by VetSkinsFan
markshark84 wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:so don't give me this crap about it's not the coaches. It may not be all the coaches, but they get some of the guilt...especially the nepotism.
Where did I say that it was not the coaches also???
In fact, the post states that they are responsible as well. This was a top five NFL defense until they changed philosophy and defensive coach.
What I am saying is that the whole unit is dysfunctional right now. And, yes, that includes the coach!
But it goes even beyond that ... it goes all the way up to the freaking OWNER.
If the owner gave Shanahan full control, how can this be Dan Snyder's fault?
Vet,
I truly hope you know better than this.
Please, show me proof. I haven't seen players going to Dan. I haven't seen the pressers like previous years from Dan. I have however seen horrific defenses, a controversial signing and multiple personnel decisions handled badly by the coach. What has Snyder done this year after bringing in Allen and Shanahan?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:50 pm
by RedskinsFreak
There isn't going to be proof. But this will lead to the inevitable mistake on board such as this.
In a position A vs. position B discussion like this is, lack of proof of position B IS NOT proof of position A.
This team remains the punchline of the NFL. Same circus, different apparent ringmaster, that's all.
We don't know what/if Snyder has done anything. But the number of common threads running through all the acts of this ongoing tragedy have eroded to one.
Let's see how they approach this upcoming offseason and if they value their draft picks as highly as the good teams do.
I've said it will take 2-3 years to de-Vinnify this franchise. His touches must be removed from all aspects of the operation -- especially in talent evaluation and acquisition.
But once that's done and if it's still not any better, what then?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:06 pm
by VetSkinsFan
All I'm pointing out is that the RESULTS prove that McNabb isn't that much better than JC. But some people here are too egotistical to admit when they're wrong.
I don't believe JC is better than McNabb, but it's not comparable to Ryan Leaf vs Peyton Manning as some people would have us believe, either. Additionally, I don't believe the modest 'increase' in production is worth the 34 (in two weeks) yo QB that we gave 2 picks for. Balancing it all out, I still think JC was the better investment.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:20 pm
by CanesSkins26
VetSkinsFan wrote:All I'm pointing out is that the RESULTS prove that McNabb isn't that much better than JC. But some people here are too egotistical to admit when they're wrong.
I don't believe JC is better than McNabb, but it's not comparable to Ryan Leaf vs Peyton Manning as some people would have us believe, either. Additionally, I don't believe the modest 'increase' in production is worth the 34 (in two weeks) yo QB that we gave 2 picks for. Balancing it all out, I still think JC was the better investment.
What if I think that neither is any good? haha
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:54 pm
by MDSKINSFAN
Haslett is terrible. Sure he has had success in the past but he never had amazing defenses. He consistently had defenses that were top 10 in forcing turnovers, but he never consistently had defenses in the top 10 overall. There is a reason he was coaching in the CFL last year; no one wanted him. We were probably the only team knocking on his door.
He can't call a game and he can't prepare his team. There have been 2 games this season that this defense has gone out and looked completely unprepared. Against the Colts they looked like they didn't know what a hurry up offense was and last night they looked like they had never seen Vick, Jackson, or Maclin before. Somehow they hung in there with the Colts and we still had a chance to win. Last night was just on a different level. I don't want to hear how the players are a problem and we don't have the personnel when Blache and Williams consistently got top 10 defenses out of these players. Maybe if he wasn't so ignorant and played his players to their strengths the defense would be better.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:54 pm
by VetSkinsFan
CanesSkins26 wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:All I'm pointing out is that the RESULTS prove that McNabb isn't that much better than JC. But some people here are too egotistical to admit when they're wrong.
I don't believe JC is better than McNabb, but it's not comparable to Ryan Leaf vs Peyton Manning as some people would have us believe, either. Additionally, I don't believe the modest 'increase' in production is worth the 34 (in two weeks) yo QB that we gave 2 picks for. Balancing it all out, I still think JC was the better investment.
What if I think that neither is any good? haha
I can agree to that too
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:41 pm
by markshark84
VetSkinsFan wrote:markshark84 wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:so don't give me this crap about it's not the coaches. It may not be all the coaches, but they get some of the guilt...especially the nepotism.
Where did I say that it was not the coaches also???
In fact, the post states that they are responsible as well. This was a top five NFL defense until they changed philosophy and defensive coach.
What I am saying is that the whole unit is dysfunctional right now. And, yes, that includes the coach!
But it goes even beyond that ... it goes all the way up to the freaking OWNER.
If the owner gave Shanahan full control, how can this be Dan Snyder's fault?
Vet,
I truly hope you know better than this.
Please, show me proof. I haven't seen players going to Dan. I haven't seen the pressers like previous years from Dan. I have however seen horrific defenses, a controversial signing and multiple personnel decisions handled badly by the coach. What has Snyder done this year after bringing in Allen and Shanahan?
Proof? Come on. You mean actual evidence that Danny is running the team internally. Please. Danny boy may not be very good with football, but he isn't a total idiot. If there is one thing he does know it is how to control the media. He did it last year -- whether you think so or not. Remember last year when people were ready to hang Danny -- what did he do? He banned signs and only permitted TV cameras to show signs that said "unconditional love" and junk like that. The only time he put out releases was during the time when people were ready to literally hang him.
He is the OWNER. That is O-W-N-E-R. Do you really think that the DMc thing was all on Allen? Please. Do you really think that our OWNER has "no control" over anything football related? Come on. He can if he wants, contract or no contract. Danny is smart enough to know that he is in hot water with the fans. Ultimately he knows that staying out of the spotlight will actually make him more money. So that is what he does. The "hands off" policy was probably his idea. I wouldn't be surprised if it was put out into the media just so fans would relax. After he tried it his way (for over a decade) and failed, it came to a boiling point last year. He isn't going to surface for a while -- but that doesn't mean that he isn't going to continue exactly what he was doing behing closed doors.
Regardless, if you want evidence, you won't get it. But, the way to know is not by anything actually stated -- because Snyder ALSO OWNS MOST MAJOR SKINS MEDIA OUTLETS. Like that Michaels guy -- he is the biggest biatch I have ever seen. A total media yes-man. It is going to be evidenced by what is going on here/transactions. Is there a pattern? Are we doing the same types of things that the organization was doing a couple years ago? Right now, I haven't seen anything different from last year. We traded for a vet and gave up picks...we signed a huge deal and overpaid for an aging vet that has not performed well as a skin....we have started off strong and slowed down....things are appearing to break apart internally (probably from undue pressure by the owner)......
If you look at the history of the Danny tenure, there are a ton of common denominators regardless of who was the coach. And in that department, not much has changed since MS arrived. Personally, I am not very high on Allen anyway. It always seems that when the skins are in hot water, Danny goes out and finds some link to the skins past and brings him in. He is no idiot. He knows nastalgia works in DC. It brings us back to when we were good -- and had a good GM and owner.
Snyder is still Snyder no matter how much people want to believe otherwise. And trust me, most people WANT to believe otherwise -- because they love this team. No matter what, Danny will continue to be a LOSER and this has been proven consistently for over a decade. But if it is evidence you are looking for, I wouldn't waste your time.....after all he is in charge (and the owner) of providing such evidence.
Re: Landry
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:45 pm
by tribeofjudah
CanesSkins26 wrote:LaRon Landry at center of the storm with Eagles
By Paul Tenorio
Washington Redskins safety LaRon Landry was involved in controversies before and after the Redskins' 59-28 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday night, one stemming from a pregame scuffle between the teams and another from accusations of spitting by Eagles center Mike McGlynn.
In the locker room after the game, McGlynn told reporters that Landry had spit on him twice during the game on extra points. He said one incident occurred after the Eagles went up 21-0.
Landry adamantly denied the accusations.
"This is my answer: When would I ever be in touch with the center? I never blitz the 'A' gap." Landry said. When told McGlynn said the incidents occurred during extra points, he said: "Extra points? Still, when would I ever be in the 'A' gap? Extra points I'm on the end. With that said, that's your answer."
Before the game, Landry was in the middle of a scrum that broke out between the two teams as the Eagles headed to their locker room after warmups. It appeared the confrontation started between Landry and Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson.
FoxSports.com's Jay Glazer reported on twitter that, according to unnamed sources, Landry and cornerback DeAngelo Hall were "taunting" Jackson before warm-ups and "mocking him getting concussed." Jackson has suffered two concussions in the last two seasons, including one on a hit by Green Bay defensive back Dunta Robinson Oct. 17 that helped bring about an NFL crackdown on hits to the head.
In a text message to a reporter, Hall denied saying anything to Jackson regarding concussions.
After the game, Jackson seemed to play down the jawing but did acknowledge that there was some trash talking.
"It was some disrespectful things that was being said, and I'm not going to get into who said it or what they said but it was just some disrespectful things being said," Jackson said. "Sometimes I think some football players take this football a little too serious and at the end of the day we're human beings and have to have respect for a lot of people. It was just disrespectful but, like I said, we got in an altercation and we was ready to do whatever we needed to do to go out there and get them, so we was ready."
Landry also played down the pre-game altercation as normal jawing between opponents.
"Me and DeSean just was talking. I was nowhere near the play after it happened. After we talked it's over I walked off and then I see the whole crowd," Landry said. "We just talked, we always do that. Me and D-Jack, we ace. So I don't know if they trying to elevate a problem for no reason. The center, I'll keep my mouth shut about him."
Hall said he simply tried to break up the scuffle.
"I don't know what was going on," Hall said. "I kind of came over there towards the end to break it up, peacemaker. I'm kind of getting pulled back and forth. Typical rivalry. ... any time you get two physical teams together, especially teams that don't like each other, things like that are going to happen."
By Paul Tenorio | November 16, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
Categories: LaRon Landry
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/laron-landry/laron-landry-at-center-of-the.html#more
Hall: it happens "any time you get two physical teams together".....NO NO NO. ONE physical team.......the other (skins) were anything but physical....freakin losers.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:01 pm
by VetSkinsFan
I still have noticed a difference from this year and last. You don't see players hanging out with Snyder (CP and the CMAs for instance). Snyder isn't holding pressers. There is a difference IMO. If some people are too jaded to believe that Snyder can change, then so be it.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:06 pm
by Countertrey
I think the Danny should take a page from Jerruh...
Fire Wade Phillips.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:14 pm
by PiggyKiller
Haslett isn't the problem. Overrated defensive players are. That shell of what Albert Haynesworth once was, the one that lines up in the 92 uniform every couple of plays and gives up every other snap that he plays? He's the problem. DBs that talk to much and walk too little to back it up.
Haslett isn't the problem.