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Coach is merely covering for poor coaching by his son.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:05 pm
by merritt22
Swiping at McNabb's intelligence, this benching move was really just an attempt to divert attention from his son's poor performance as offensive coordinator. That's it plan and simple. no one will say it. But I just did!!

Re: Coach is merely covering for poor coaching by his son.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:06 pm
by VetSkinsFan
merritt22 wrote:Swiping at McNabb's intelligence, this benching move was really just an attempt to divert attention from his son's poor performance as offensive coordinator. That's it plan and simple. no one will say it. But I just did!!

I agree and even a Dallas fan told me this

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:13 pm
by Die-Hard-Fan
This board amazes me sometimes......now we have sunk so low as to LISTEN to what cowboy fans have to say.....LMAO.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:24 pm
by MDSKINSFAN
Yeah I agree. If he doesn't create a situation to talk about for the next 2 weeks everyone will be talking about how terrible of a job is son is doing. This was a low blow, using the QB as a scapegoat for his son's poor performance.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:26 pm
by VetSkinsFan
MDSKINSFAN wrote:Yeah I agree. If he doesn't create a situation to talk about for the next 2 weeks everyone will be talking about how terrible of a job is son is doing. This was a low blow, using the QB as a scapegoat for his son's poor performance.


Especially since McNabb WILL take the high road and take the lumps. I don't like it.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:53 pm
by roybus14
The last time I checked offensive coordinators make adjustments to what the defense is doing just defensive coordinators make adjustments to what the offense is doing.

To me, both sides of the ball coordinators are suspect. Riddle me this: why would take a top 10 defense in the 4-3 scheme over the past three seasons and turn them into the 31st ranked defense in a 3-4??? Haslett's track record has not been stellar and this team has the athletes who thrived in the 4-3, so why change that?

Really though, you have to wonder how much Kubiak was involved in that Texans offense last year and how much of it was Kyle? Again, a good OC will adjust his play calling to the talent he has. If McNabb was getting killed from the start of the game, why go more shotgun and roll outs or even try the hurry up to get Detroit out of rhythm?

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:06 pm
by Kilmer72
roybus14 wrote:The last time I checked offensive coordinators make adjustments to what the defense is doing just defensive coordinators make adjustments to what the offense is doing.

To me, both sides of the ball coordinators are suspect. Riddle me this: why would take a top 10 defense in the 4-3 scheme over the past three seasons and turn them into the 31st ranked defense in a 3-4??? Haslett's track record has not been stellar and this team has the athletes who thrived in the 4-3, so why change that?

Really though, you have to wonder how much Kubiak was involved in that Texans offense last year and how much of it was Kyle? Again, a good OC will adjust his play calling to the talent he has. If McNabb was getting killed from the start of the game, why go more shotgun and roll outs or even try the hurry up to get Detroit out of rhythm?



Sometimes the head coach has to make a stand. Like Gibbs did with Al Saunders. Sometimes the great coaches do this and then you have MS. He is way better as a coach than Zorn but not as in being forthcoming.

For example, we passed and passed and it wasn't working. Gibbs stepped in and said we need to run make that our staple. I am just guessing at this but this is pretty much on the mark.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:39 pm
by FlyinO
Nepotism rules the day, and the Redskins and their fans suffer for it.
Hail to the Deadskins!

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:11 pm
by tribeofjudah
FlyinO wrote:Nepotism rules the day, and the Redskins and their fans suffer for it.
Hail to the Deadskins!


are you a non-fan posing as a fan?

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:55 pm
by Wahoo McDaniels
I'd agree if he wasn't extremely successful (offensively) in Houston. Lack of execution trumps play calling every time.

I'll take Kyle over Jimmy Ray every day.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:00 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Wahoo McDaniels wrote:I'd agree if he wasn't extremely successful (offensively) in Houston. Lack of execution trumps play calling every time.


As a coach, he needs to be able to adjust. If he can't adjust, he'll be a failure. It's not hard to succeed when you have probowlers everywhere.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:02 pm
by Wahoo McDaniels
So you're agreeing with me and saying that Donny isn't Pro Bowl caliber. Finally...somebody agrees with me!

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:13 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Wahoo McDaniels wrote:So you're agreeing with me and saying that Donny isn't Pro Bowl caliber. Finally...somebody agrees with me!


No. Nobody said that at all. I do NOT agree with you.

I made a statement that was plural. I believe that Don could reach that level again with Arizona or Minny. He's being held back by a crappy offensive team. This o-line is UTTER garbage. The WR's are GARBAGE. The OC is a whiny brat who can't adjust. This team is as good as it is offensively because of McRibb even with his mistakes.

Kyle isnt making throws. But he put his lover Sexy Rexy in there and he got MURDERED. Kyle looked so embarrassed afterwards and she SHOULD have been.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:14 pm
by Wahoo McDaniels
From ProFootballTalk:

"Chris Mortensen calls Shanahan's displeasure with McNabb 'the worst kept secret in the league'"

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:19 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Wahoo McDaniels wrote:From ProFootballTalk:

"Chris Mortensen calls Shanahan's displeasure with McNabb 'the worst kept secret in the league'"


Which is fine, he doesn't have to like him. But bench him at the half. Bench him going into the bye. Not with the game on the line. THat was the dumbest move he could make. He deserves the criticism he's getting.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:23 pm
by SprintRightOption
During the first half of the game the camera caught a shot of Kyle Shanahan with a WTF expression when the team lined up on offense in the I formation that was without a doubt a " That's not the play I called what are you Doing?" There does seem to be a lack of communication as to what is being called on the sidelines and what is being called in the huddle.

I actually thought they took Donovan out because they didn't want him to get hurt. That was the worst pass blocking of the year by the Skins.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:37 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
SprintRightOption wrote:I actually thought they took Donovan out because they didn't want him to get hurt. That was the worst pass blocking of the year by the Skins.


:roll: With 1 minute left, really?

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:24 pm
by FlyinO
tribeofjudah wrote:
FlyinO wrote:Nepotism rules the day, and the Redskins and their fans suffer for it.
Hail to the Deadskins!


are you a non-fan posing as a fan?


No. I'm a fan. But the Redskins suck. Did you see the game Sunday? 0-4 collectively against the Lions and the Rams the last two seasons. The Skins are bottom barrel.

Hail to the Deadskins.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:24 pm
by chiefhog44
Are you guys serious? Did you watch the game? Please give me examples of how his playcalling was suspect. I want specifics. Not just he should have called more bootlegs or whatever. And keep in mind the injury to Torain which left us with a undrafted rookie RB who has no concept of picking up blocking assignments (as evidenced on almost every blitz that he was in the game for). I expect this from some of you, but others, I thought more of your smarts

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:37 pm
by Skinsfan55
Yeah, this whole thread is nonsense. Kyle Shanahan is an excellent offensive coordinator... but there's only so much he can do with a porous offensive line, a 4th string running back and exactly two options in the receiving game.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:31 pm
by CanesSkins26
Wahoo McDaniels wrote:So you're agreeing with me and saying that Donny isn't Pro Bowl caliber. Finally...somebody agrees with me!
'

Nobody that has watched McNabb this year should be arguing with you about McNabb not being Pro Bowl caliber. He is nowhere near that level anymore.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:32 pm
by CanesSkins26
chiefhog44 wrote:Are you guys serious? Did you watch the game? Please give me examples of how his playcalling was suspect. I want specifics. Not just he should have called more bootlegs or whatever. And keep in mind the injury to Torain which left us with a undrafted rookie RB who has no concept of picking up blocking assignments (as evidenced on almost every blitz that he was in the game for). I expect this from some of you, but others, I thought more of your smarts


+1

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:43 pm
by Kilmer72
Skinsfan55 wrote:Yeah, this whole thread is nonsense. Kyle Shanahan is an excellent offensive coordinator... but there's only so much he can do with a porous offensive line, a 4th string running back and exactly two options in the receiving game.


I agree thank you

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:47 pm
by chiefhog44
Skinsfan55 wrote:Yeah, this whole thread is nonsense. Kyle Shanahan is an excellent offensive coordinator... but there's only so much he can do with a porous offensive line, a 4th string running back and exactly two options in the receiving game.


4th string? How about working at a Wendy's 6 weeks ago??? Just kidding, but I bet I'm not far off. Maybe at an A&W rootbeer stand. AWWWW man, do I love those floats and rings.

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:53 am
by TeeterSalad
chiefhog44 wrote:Are you guys serious? Did you watch the game? Please give me examples of how his playcalling was suspect. I want specifics. Not just he should have called more bootlegs or whatever. And keep in mind the injury to Torain which left us with a undrafted rookie RB who has no concept of picking up blocking assignments (as evidenced on almost every blitz that he was in the game for). I expect this from some of you, but others, I thought more of your smarts


Why can't a thread like this be "accidently" deleted? :wink: