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QB: McNabb, Grossman, Beck

RB/FB: Portis, Johnson, Sellers, Young, Wms

TE: ey, Davis, Paulson

WR: Moss, Gallaway, Armstrong, Wms, Banks, Thomas

OL: Trent Wms, Dockery, Rabach, Hicks, Brown, Heyer, Lichenstieger, Will Montgomery

DL: Jarmon, Haynesworth, Golstein, Holliday, Daniels, Carriker, Bryant, Kemoeatu

LB: Orakpo, Carter, Riley, Blades, ALexander, Wilson, McIntosh, Fletcher

CB: Hall, Rogers, Westbrook, Barnes, Buchanon

S: Landry, HOrton, Moore, Doughty

P: Bidwell

LS: Sundberg

K: Gano

fredp45 wrote:QB: McNabb, Grossman, Beck

RB/FB: Portis, Johnson, Sellers, Young, Wms

TE: ey, Davis, Paulson

WR: Moss, Gallaway, Armstrong, Wms, Banks, Thomas

OL: Trent Wms, Dockery, Rabach, Hicks, Brown, Heyer, Lichenstieger, Will Montgomery

DL: Jarmon, Haynesworth, Golstein, Holliday, Daniels, Carriker, Bryant, Kemoeatu

LB: Orakpo, Carter, Riley, Blades, ALexander, Wilson, McIntosh, Fletcher

CB: Hall, Rogers, Westbrook, Barnes, Buchanon

S: Landry, HOrton, Moore, Doughty

P: Bidwell

LS: Sundberg

K: Gano

I thought Paulsen was cut.

A few things that stand out for me:

2 FB -- Shanahan doesn't use FBs that much...

Roydell Wms, Armstong and Banks all make it.

Galloway is old and done, I hope we go for TJ and cut Joey.

Only 8 OL

8 DL -- are we trading Fat Albert?

3 available safeties and one hurt safety. Will they put Moore on the IR (out for 4 or 6 games, I forget) and resign Carter?

Really sorry that Tryon & Reinhart didn't pan out, they were wasted picks!

I'm thinking Torain, Austin, Capers, Cook, Oldenberg, S Anderson, Rob Jackson, Henson on PS. If Henson goes on IR, maybe Bartel

Forgot to add -- 23 new players...that's a lot. Hopefully, next year is 12, no more than 15

A couple of things that jump out...

We have absolutely no depth on the OL
Our linebackers are nasty
The DL is scary....in a bad way

Paulson made it, reports of him getting cut were wrong.

We'll get another OL.

With Albert, we have a good DL...I'm actually more worried about our Linebackers.

Actually he was told he was cut and then when they printed the list, he wasn't. Who knew.

Im really not disapointerd in any area. Selvish Capers and Rienheat a little bit. It would be nice to have some young o line depth. position that I think everyone was focusing on was the WRs. I would like to see Armstonrg get the start. We know what we have in Gallodway let him back up armstrong and let Williams back up Moss. Let see banks in the slot. This sounds like an explosive three. Exchange Thomas and banks and you have some quality run after the catch guys.

The last thing I want to see is Wilson switch to LOLB and take over for Cater, Then I will be ready for Dallas.

Just a few side notes while I have your attention:
Not completely sold on Jamal Brown
Would like to see what Portis looks like with 18 carries
Run Defense has very few no gains or loss of yards...seems like were gonna give up at least three on every run.

Dont get me wrong though I still like our team. For what its worth...I think I still have enough to root for this season. Theres only one way to go from here and thats>>>

fredp45 wrote:QB: McNabb, Grossman, Beck

RB/FB: Portis, Johnson, Sellers, Young, Wms

TE: ey, Davis, Paulson

WR: Moss, Gallaway, Armstrong, Wms, Banks, Thomas

OL: Trent Wms, Dockery, Rabach, Hicks, Brown, Heyer, Lichenstieger, Will Montgomery

DL: Jarmon, Haynesworth, Golstein, Holliday, Daniels, Carriker, Bryant, Kemoeatu

LB: Orakpo, Carter, Riley, Blades, ALexander, Wilson, McIntosh, Fletcher

CB: Hall, Rogers, Westbrook, Barnes, Buchanon

S: Landry, HOrton, Moore, Doughty

P: Bidwell

LS: Sundberg

K: Gano

I would have kept Austin oner Galloway & R Williams

Two fullbacks? Is this just because Sellers is injured right now? Only one fullback will be activated for Sundays, and I would think that Young could make it to the practice squad.

I also think Paulson could be safely stashed on the practice squad.

Only eight offensive lineman seems low. I doubt there is any other team with less than nine on the final 53.

I think the team could use another true free safety on the roster, at least until Kareem Moore returns.

Well, maybe there are more moves to come...

http://www.redskins.com/team/


Here's the link for the 2010 Redskins!

I have to say, I'm disappointed that Dennis Morris couldn't make the team and has ended up in St Louis. I'm not saying that he deserved to make the roster (I don't get to watch these guys practice like the coaches do), but the fact that he was effectively beaten to a roster spot by Paulson at tight end, and by a converted linebacker at fullback is a disappointment. Just goes to show that it isn't worth paying too much attention to a player's college highlight reel!

Also disappointed that Austin didn't make it at wide receiver - I thought he'd done enough to justify a spot.

I'm amazed that Galloway was signed as anything other than camp fodder, so to see him make the 53 is staggering.

Shanahan and Allen have effectively given themselves a "fail" grade for the draft this year. Only two of the draftees made it on to the opening day roster? Yuk. Another wasted draft, excluding Williams and Riley.

UK Skins Fan wrote:I have to say, I'm disappointed that Dennis Morris couldn't make the team and has ended up in St Louis.

We will be getting a conditional pick back from the Rams for him, and if they suck again this year, that will be a high pick in whichever round it turns out to be.

Actually he was cut from their team too so I don't think we'll get anything in the same way we won't have to give anything to them for the player we acquired and cut.

frankcal20 wrote:Actually he was cut from their team too so I don't think we'll get anything in the same way we won't have to give anything to them for the player we acquired and cut.

If a pick was part of the trade then we would still probably get it, right? Unless he meant a compensatory pick. I don't know why we would get one of those.

frankcal20 wrote:Actually he was cut from their team too so I don't think we'll get anything in the same way we won't have to give anything to them for the player we acquired and cut.

Oh, I didn't fact check my response first. I took UK's post to mean that he had made the Rams' roster. Silly me for thinking UK knew about American football.

Deadskins wrote:

frankcal20 wrote:Actually he was cut from their team too so I don't think we'll get anything in the same way we won't have to give anything to them for the player we acquired and cut.

Oh, I didn't fact check my response first. I took UK's post to mean that he had made the Rams' roster. Silly me for thinking UK knew about American football.

Lol - I only knew that he'd been traded to the Rams - I don't give a stuff who actually makes THEIR roster

cvillehog wrote:If a pick was part of the trade then we would still probably get it, right? Unless he meant a compensatory pick. I don't know why we would get one of those.

It was a conditional pick, meaning it he played a big role for the team the pick would be higher than if played three downs all year. He did make the team so no pick will change hands.

Compensatory picks are awarded after the season and can not be traded.

Both teams are being looked at because of these trades

1niksder wrote:

cvillehog wrote:If a pick was part of the trade then we would still probably get it, right? Unless he meant a compensatory pick. I don't know why we would get one of those.

It was a conditional pick, meaning it he played a big role for the team the pick would be higher than if played three downs all year. He did make the team so no pick will change hands.

Compensatory picks are awarded after the season and can not be traded.

Both teams are being looked at because of these trades

Not sure what about my post indicated to you that I don't know the difference between conditional and compensatory picks. I was just trying to decipher what someone else meant by their post.

I am glad to see we added Capers to the practice squad.

UK Skins Fan wrote:Shanahan and Allen have effectively given themselves a "fail" grade for the draft this year. Only two of the draftees made it on to the opening day roster? Yuk. Another wasted draft, excluding Williams and Riley.

Agreed.

We cannot afford wasted drafts anymore. There is only so much that can be added with Free Agents. Best teams make good draft choices -and- good FA acquisitions.

Skins 2010 is a much better team than the 2009 embarrassment. However, this is obviously a work-in-progress and we should be satisfied fielding a more competitive team every weekend for this season.

I would be happy with a 0.500 record or its neighbourhood. Anything better is gravy to me. We are definitely on a positive track. Improvement has taken place, just that a miracle turnaround from such a disastrous situation cannot happen in a single season.

Hail!

After glancing over this, it is obvious that our WR situation is where we are weakest. I would like to see Armstrong get the #2 spot.

Personally, I am not surprised about Paulson only because I could see ey/Davis playing WR in certain situations -- mainly because of our lack of depth at the WR position.

Our LB core appears to be very good. We have 5 solid LBs; 2 of which are "elite" and 1 that is solidly "above average". Carter played very well last year -- so he may also be "above average", but you never know due to the position change.

Our DL situation is a little different; we really need to find some DEs in the next draft. We are REALLY OLD at the DE position and because of this, I would not be surprised if we have some DE injuries over the course of the season.

All in all, though, this roster is a MAJOR upgrade from last year. Let's hope that they can gell as a unit early and get some early Ws.

The WR position is an issue but this offense is going to be a whole lot better than what we saw here in B&G last season

we have a number of offensive concerns (RB, OL, WR) but we are on the right track - from where we were at the end of last season to where we are now is a huge improvement but it was really a little unrealistic for anyone to expect it to be a lot better

we should end up with a decent defense (with or without the tub of lard) and I would think that if we see a big improvement in the level of play we are looking at 8-8 or thereabouts this year and being back in the playoff chase next year

markshark84 wrote:After glancing over this, it is obvious that our WR situation is where we are weakest. I would like to see Armstrong get the #2 spot.

Personally, I am not surprised about Paulson only because I could see ey/Davis playing WR in certain situations -- mainly because of our lack of depth at the WR position.

Our LB core appears to be very good. We have 5 solid LBs; 2 of which are "elite" and 1 that is solidly "above average". Carter played very well last year -- so he may also be "above average", but you never know due to the position change.

Our DL situation is a little different; we really need to find some DEs in the next draft. We are REALLY OLD at the DE position and because of this, I would not be surprised if we have some DE injuries over the course of the season.

All in all, though, this roster is a MAJOR upgrade from last year. Let's hope that they can gell as a unit early and get some early Ws.

Jarmon, Golston & Carriker are old?

yupchagee wrote:

markshark84 wrote:After glancing over this, it is obvious that our WR situation is where we are weakest. I would like to see Armstrong get the #2 spot.

Personally, I am not surprised about Paulson only because I could see ey/Davis playing WR in certain situations -- mainly because of our lack of depth at the WR position.

Our LB core appears to be very good. We have 5 solid LBs; 2 of which are "elite" and 1 that is solidly "above average". Carter played very well last year -- so he may also be "above average", but you never know due to the position change.

Our DL situation is a little different; we really need to find some DEs in the next draft. We are REALLY OLD at the DE position and because of this, I would not be surprised if we have some DE injuries over the course of the season.

All in all, though, this roster is a MAJOR upgrade from last year. Let's hope that they can gell as a unit early and get some early Ws.

Jarmon, Golston & Carriker are old?

No, but Holliday, Daniels, and Kemoeatu are. And in reality, Jarmon and Golston are not going to be our DEs of the future. There is a question-mark with Carriker because of his college career and potential upside within a new enviornment, but outside of that, we only really have Haynesworth on the line that is very good and under 30 -- and who knows how long he will be here.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

UK Skins Fan wrote:Shanahan and Allen have effectively given themselves a "fail" grade for the draft this year. Only two of the draftees made it on to the opening day roster? Yuk. Another wasted draft, excluding Williams and Riley.

Agreed.

We cannot afford wasted drafts anymore. There is only so much that can be added with Free Agents. Best teams make good draft choices -and- good FA acquisitions.

Skins 2010 is a much better team than the 2009 embarrassment. However, this is obviously a work-in-progress and we should be satisfied fielding a more competitive team every weekend for this season.

I would be happy with a 0.500 record or its neighbourhood. Anything better is gravy to me. We are definitely on a positive track. Improvement has taken place, just that a miracle turnaround from such a disastrous situation cannot happen in a single season.

Hail!

People are blowing this 4 out of 6 didn't make the roster thing out of proportion. The four who didn't make it were 6th and 7th rounders. Those guys don't make rosters at a high percentage on any team. It's not like they made three second round picks who can't contribute. There first round pick is a day one starter and their fourth rounder also made the team. It makes a good headline to say 4 of 6 didn't make the team, but in reality, 4 of the 6 were unlikely to make the team the day they were drafted. The sixth and seventh round is where teams take a gamble on long shots. It would have been good luck for one of them to make the team, not poor drafting.