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Albert Haynesworth's ongoing tiff with Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan has reached multi-syllabic proportions, as team sources say the defensive lineman was sidelined last week with a mild case of rhabdomyolysis, a condition marked by the breakdown of skeletal muscle and the release of myoglobin in the bloodstream.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02850.html

Huh? Now what?

chiefhog44 wrote:Huh? Now what?

We find out what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. My money is on the immovable object.

the scientific name for Rhabdomyolysis is called Puss-itis and I am just getting sick of this big whining baby. he has an excuse for everything. be a man and play football. since when did rugged football players become mama's little sissys? jeeze

and I "googled" the headaches symptoms of Albert Haynesworth and all I could come up with is "male vaginal discomfort" and is common with overpaid lazy men with pussitis.

You could be in the best physical shape of your life and walk into a doctors office with 30 illnesses and a bunch of pills you don't need.

There is a diagnosis for everything... yes folks even Laziness. I know this because when I was in high school I was lazy, I didn't have a medical issue preventing me from paying attention, no, I was too busy staring at Alicia from the field hockey team in that little skirt. Point is, they put me on every ADD medicine out there for no reason.

Why don't they just put Fat Al on adderal. Either that or roll the dice with cocaine. I'm tired of hearing about him.

Send him to Afghanistan, nobody does anything here either, they just sit underneath trees on the side of the road eating watermelons looking for more money but have no intentions on working for it. Ramadan might kill the big guy though.

Declare Haynesworth "physically unable to perform" and forget him. I don't know what that does to the cap, since he's been paid upfront money...

Do we care about the money that's been lost?

- If Shanahan lets Haynesworth play whatever Hayensworth wants, the Redskins a missing a player on-field. Haynesworth might be in uniform, he might be there physically, but not mentally.

- If Shanahan cuts Haynesworth, everyone can forget him.

Yes, a bad signing, but if he won't contribute to the team, why carry him on the roster? Hey, next time sign me and I'll be happy to not do anything. I'll take less money than Haynesworth, too!

There is no cap so this is the "Clean House" year that the Skins had been hoping for.

yeah I agree, truth is that we need him in our rotation. The d-line has become our weakest link. Carriker looks like he can hold his ground but he is not pushing the line of scrimmage. Golston is a band-aid that is going to be exposed. Kemo is good enough to spell fat albert when he goes in the tank. we need better than good enough. That D-line is getting pushed off the ball right now and it is having a trickle effect on the whole defense. And while im breaking down the defense I should note the hole we have at outside linebacker. Andre Carter is gonna get embarrased trying to tackle these third down backs in the flat. He is a liability in coverage which should mean he is stout in the run game. Wrong, take a look at the film, he is over pursuing on cut back, trap plays or he is way too far up field on runs his way. I like Alexander but I think Chris Wilson is the most athletic of the three and hope he wins the job. Talk to me man...

encinoman wrote:yeah I agree, truth is that we need him in our rotation. The d-line has become our weakest link. Carriker looks like he can hold his ground but he is not pushing the line of scrimmage. Golston is a band-aid that is going to be exposed. Kemo is good enough to spell fat albert when he goes in the tank. we need better than good enough. That D-line is getting pushed off the ball right now and it is having a trickle effect on the whole defense. And while im breaking down the defense I should note the hole we have at outside linebacker. Andre Carter is gonna get embarrased trying to tackle these third down backs in the flat. He is a liability in coverage which should mean he is stout in the run game. Wrong, take a look at the film, he is over pursuing on cut back, trap plays or he is way too far up field on runs his way. I like Alexander but I think Chris Wilson is the most athletic of the three and hope he wins the job. Talk to me man...

the starting defense has given up 3 field goal drives in 3 quarters of play (the ravens' TD was the result of a special teams play that put the ravens at the 1 yard line; hardly the defense's fault, as they had stopped that drive and forced a 4th down).

i don't know about you, but if during the regular season they give up 1 FG per quarter, 12 points a game, i'll be very happy.

...additionally, the Ravens' offense was guilty of multiple flagrant holding penalties per drive, which would have most likely stalled them. they were so abundant and obscenely conspicuous that i can't possibly imagine any ref letting them slide that consistently during the regular season.

regardless of the holding penalties being enforced or not, my main point is really that the defense was getting a lot more pressure/penetration than it seemed; the Ravens simply got around that problem by ripping our guys' jerseys off and tackling them from behind.

lol, delay of game for fletch inadvertantly kicking the ball, but no holding call for a horsecollar on Orakpo, a tackle on andre carter, LMAO the officials were like 3rd stringers or something.

Is it just me or does it seem like every time they flash Tits McGee's picture up on ESPN that his face is morphing to that of an infant? I'm not even being sarcastic I seriously think the folks in Sportscenter are photoshopping baby-like characteristics on his ugly mug. Pay attention next time he says something else a 4 year old would complain about.

My knee jerk reaction while watching the game was that the Skins were getting run over. Today, I managed to catch a replay on NFL Network and now I'm feeling a lot better.

Our 1st string defense didn't allow the Ravens to do anything! I honestly don't care at this point if Haynesworth plays or not. We don't really need him. A motivated Haynesworth is now nothing more than a nice little bonus.

I also was impressed with our 1st O this time around. The timing still isn't there and McNabb is adjusting to his receivers. After closer review, with a little better timing and some balls caught that ended up dropped, we probably could've been up 17-6 at the end of the 1st half.

I am now starting to believe we're looking solid.

Fat Al should be put on the PUP list and sent to Nashville. Don't cut him, make him sit at home and look like a fool.

Maximoral wrote: ..... Fat Al should be put on the PUP list and sent to Nashville. Don't cut him, make him sit at home and look like a fool.

actually we don't need to do anything but what we're doing now - he's looking pretty stupid and everytime he opens his trap, he makes himself look even worse

Shanahan is handling this tub of lard very well and this might even motivate fat man to take a look at himself and be a contributor here

no question he could help this defense AND himself but that is totally up to him and he's NOT going to get his way, that's for sure

Fat Al should be put on the PUP list and sent to Nashville. Don't cut him, make him sit at home and look like a fool.

They aren't going to do that because we need him to play. Without Haynesworth our defensive line is pretty sad. He's really the only difference maker/play maker that we have on the line.

I think he would be great in a rotation at end, but he has to be able to move first, and has to want to play. I don't think he'll really try at nose. Plus, they have a few decent guys there that don't mind playing it.

CanesSkins26 wrote: ... Without Haynesworth our defensive line is pretty sad. He's really the only difference maker/play maker that we have on the line.

I don't agree with this completely - I think our defense is better with Haynesworth but only if he's in shape to play

I don't think he's in what is called "football shape" and ready to play at the level he's capable of and that is what Shanahan is demanding of him and will not allow him to play with the first unit until he is capable of being the player that Haslett and Shanahan expect him to be


Our defense is not bad without Haynesworth, it's not as good, for sure, but this fat ass should have got here in better shape - he said he would be in better shape by doing his own conditioning - we all know that was just another lie from a proven liar


Shanahan is a very demanding coach and Haynesworth has to understand that this is not his defense and it will be effective without him - I'll guarantee that if he does not get it together he's going to get to watch the defense play without him

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Fat Al should be put on the PUP list and sent to Nashville. Don't cut him, make him sit at home and look like a fool.

They aren't going to do that because we need him to play. Without Haynesworth our defensive line is pretty sad. He's really the only difference maker/play maker that we have on the line.

I'm not sure that he actually brings that much to the table. As was pointed out earlier, Our 1st string D has given up 3 field goals so far this year. Al could certainly help us out, but we don't need him. At this point in the game, he may be too much of a distraction to actually help the D out.

brad7686 wrote:I think he would be great in a rotation at end, but he has to be able to move first, and has to want to play. I don't think he'll really try at nose. Plus, they have a few decent guys there that don't mind playing it.

I disagree - Haynesworth had better get ready to play and do WHATEVER they tell him to do - if he does not give 110% on everything that he's involved with - even if that is passing out gatorade, he will not be on the field

first of all, he needs to get in shape and then he has to show he's into what these guys are doing or he's not going to be starting - end of story

he's a fat, out of shape, loser and right now he's up against a coach that is not going to let him play until he gets it together

SkinsJock wrote:

brad7686 wrote:I think he would be great in a rotation at end, but he has to be able to move first, and has to want to play. I don't think he'll really try at nose. Plus, they have a few decent guys there that don't mind playing it.

I disagree - Haynesworth had better get ready to play and do WHATEVER they tell him to do - if he does not give 110% on everything that he's involved with - even if that is passing out gatorade, he will not be on the field

first of all, he needs to get in shape and then he has to show he's into what these guys are doing or he's not going to be starting - end of story

he's a fat, out of shape, loser and right now he's up against a coach that is not going to let him play until he gets it together

Ideally, yes. But if he doesn't want to play nose he won't play nose, so you're looking at either playing him at end or cutting him. One of those options is more economically feasible.

I understand the point brad but I hope Haynesworth understands that if he does not play that position as hard as he can he will not be starting AND I think he not only wants to start, he seems to think that he should be starting - NOT GOOD

Haynesworth is VERY dumb but he's making a very big mistake if he thinks he can get to play how or where he wants to play as opposed to what Haslett and Shanahan want him to do

the first thing that Haynesworth needs to do is to get into football shape and then he has to show he's really into what is expected of him AND at whatever position they decide is best for this defense - UNTIL he really buys into ALL of that he's going to be watching here - mark my words - they are NOT cutting this guy

this is where Haynesworth is making a big mistake - he thinks he's bigger than the coach - BIG MISTAKE

going to be interesting to see how the press conf goes - Shanahan will be V classy as usual

He'll buy into it eventually, he can pout and cry all he wants but he will eventually put it aside and buy into it like evetyone else. He has to realize that WE are onto him, he is a big baby, he wants it HIS way or no way. LoL, this mentality worked last regime, it will not fly in this one. "He can make our defense better" ... you sure about that? He is getting dominated by 2nd and 3rd stringers, him playing with the 1st team DOES NOT guarantee he will sell out and play 100% throttle. Look at Suggs, he dominated the rookie, why? because he can, simply as that, true professionals don't need much motivation.

I think I saw a stat last night, he's played 5 out of 28 practices in training camp.

He is bitching about not being thrown into the starting rotation with this attendance? Who here is in favor of him getting the nod? Good grief

chiefhog44 wrote:I think I saw a stat last night, he's played 5 out of 28 practices in training camp.
He is bitching about not being thrown into the starting rotation with this attendance? Who here is in favor of him getting the nod? Good grief

This guy has not played or practiced as well as he's capable of since he came here - he's the one that compared himself to Reggie White and how he wanted to show everyone how great a defensive lineman we had acquired - he has never been close to being as good as he claimed he would be here
Haynesworth needs to make an effort or he will be watching - nobody on this team is giving ANYTHING to anyone - you have to earn it

Haynesworth needs to show that he gets it or he will be sitting