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Too many times, the media always focuses on the big names of any franchise, and there are many players that have played that were Pretty Damn Good in their own right.. So the question is:

Who is a former Redskins player that you want fans of other teams to know about?

I plan to do a show called "The Hall of Very Good" which will include a team by team pick of "Who You Should Know About"

Are you talking historical players?

How about Kurt Goivea?

Countertrey wrote:Are you talking historical players?

Any one from the History... you know.. guys like Dave Butz, Monte Coleman..etc

El Mexican wrote:How about Kurt Goivea?

Good Pick! Solid Player!

There are about 7 players who should be in the hall, but have been snubbed...

They are all better than good. They were the best in the game at the time they played... and all set a standard for later players.
Jerry Smith
Larry Brown
Len Hauss
Pat Fischer
Chris Hanburger
Joe Jacoby
Brian Mitchell, whom you probably know about.


Other players worth consideration for players that we think more should be known about:
well, there is Diron Talbert... who is largely responsible for making the rivalry with the Cowboys what it is.

Mike Nelms, a punt returner who NEVER called a fair catch... literally.

Charley Harraway,a fullback who blocked for Larry Brown, and was a dynamite receiver out of the backfield.

You can check out the list of the 70 Greatest Redskins for more, but I think you'll get a few more suggestions here, as well...

wilber marshall.....our besst lb ever

Sam Huff might have something to say about that... as might Chris Hanburger.

Gary Clark was my favourite

Ken Harvey

Terry Allen

Always partial to Charles Mann who never seemed to get enough credit.

I was always a fan of Alvin Walton.

VetSkinsFan wrote:I was always a fan of Alvin Walton.

Man, could that dude hit!

Countertrey wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:I was always a fan of Alvin Walton.

Man, could that dude hit!

I recall his name being mentioned in company with Ronnie Lott at the time concerning hitting...

Sadly, very few non-Redskin fans seem to know who Sammy Baugh is, despite him still holding records he set in the 30's and being in the inaugural Hall of Fame class.

Hmmmm, nobody really comes to mind .......

Joe Jacoby.. I think football fans in general only know about the big name positions like QB/WR/TE/Defensive players but we had the BEST Oline ever and Joe was the man in it.

Jim Lachey
Pat Fischer
Bobby Mitchell

langleyparkjoe wrote:Joe Jacoby.. I think football fans in general only know about the big name positions like QB/WR/TE/Defensive players but we had the BEST Oline ever and Joe was the man in it.

Yeah, he was the man. Also Chris Hanburger (obviously) and especially Pat Fischer. Being shorter than average my whole life, Pat was my inspiration when I was a youngster. He was one tough SOB, enough so, I believe they created some rules to prevent some of his physical tactics. Fischer was one of those dudes you would want to have as your back in a bar fight.

One of my favorite moves of his was to get ahead of a faster/taller/bigger receiver and slow down so the receiver tripped him and he'd get the flag. The Harold Carmichael matchups were epic...Carmichael stood 11" taller than Fischer.... and there were games where Fischer owned him (and, of course, it was epic because it sometimes went the other way).

EmDiggy wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Are you talking historical players?

Any one from the History... you know.. guys like Dave Butz, Monte Coleman..etc

There are many, but the one that jumps out at me is:

Neil Olkewicz - Started 135 out of 150 games during 11 seasons as the Skins MLB. Was part of two Super Bowl wins and three SB trips.

Out of U. of MD, he set their single season record for tackles (188!!!) but weighed only 213 lbs and was told he might be a late round pick, at best. He wasn't drafted and signed with the Skins as a free agent. By the 6th game of his rookie season, he beat out Mike Curtis for the starting job. He started every game after that for the rest of his 11 year career until he was demoted during his last season in 1989. Recorded 187.5 tackles one season, 1981.

I was a kid when he played and I remember seeing #52 in on almost every tackle. I would make a game out of counting how many times #52 was in the pile after the whistle blew. He was almost always in there. He was Zach Thomas before Zach Thomas, if you know what I mean. Too small, too slow, but was at the bottom of every pile. A MLB who had an uncanny knack for getting in on every play. He was the quintessential overachiever and was the glue that held the defense together.

fleetus wrote:

EmDiggy wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Are you talking historical players?

Any one from the History... you know.. guys like Dave Butz, Monte Coleman..etc

There are many, but the one that jumps out at me is:

Neil Olkewicz - Started 135 out of 150 games during 11 seasons as the Skins MLB. Was part of two Super Bowl wins and three SB trips.

Out of U. of MD, he set their single season record for tackles (188!!!) but weighed only 213 lbs and was told he might be a late round pick, at best. He wasn't drafted and signed with the Skins as a free agent. By the 6th game of his rookie season, he beat out Mike Curtis for the starting job. He started every game after that for the rest of his 11 year career until he was demoted during his last season in 1989. Recorded 187.5 tackles one season, 1981.

I was a kid when he played and I remember seeing #52 in on almost every tackle. I would make a game out of counting how many times #52 was in the pile after the whistle blew. He was almost always in there. He was Zach Thomas before Zach Thomas, if you know what I mean. Too small, too slow, but was at the bottom of every pile. A MLB who had an uncanny knack for getting in on every play. He was the quintessential overachiever and was the glue that held the defense together.

I was too young to really get too much in to the research and history of this era of players, but it truly shows how blessed the Redskins and the fans were in the 80s and very early 90s. Every so often, after a football conversation at work, I'll look someone up just to know alittle history about them. Thanks for the tidbits on Neil!

man, this post brings back some damn good memories!!! Alvin Walton, Wilbur Marshall, Jim Lachey, Neil Olkewicz...all guys you tend to forget until someone mentons them. All studs, and we've had a lot of great players...

El Mexican wrote:How about Kurt Goivea?

So forgotten, they can't even spell his name right!

It's Gouveia.

North Carolinian, Charlie "Choo-Choo" Justice, was a heck of a player. He didn't play long with the Skins, because of injuries, but he was a great college player and is inducted into the college football hall of fame.

Mark Moseley!!!! Its up and its good!!!!!!!