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--OT Tony Pashos : The 49ers will sit down with Pashos' agent at the scouting combine. Pashos has said in the past that he wants to start. The 49ers, meanwhile, are expected to draft an offensive tackle this year. In addition, Pashos' long-time offensive line coach, Chris Foerster, is now in Washington and this is expected to be a weak market for all players, including offensive tackles. The Redskins need offensive linemen, they have deeper pockets than the 49ers and they have Pashos' offensive line coach. All signs point to him playing in D.C.

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We need starting caliber players and if his coach/old coach thinks he can start, get him in here.

He's started for a while. Could bring him in for depth or to possibly play RT.

If we were to draft a LT and then have him as our RT then we could go after a starting guard in the 2nd. Boom - line done. Only need to find depth on the line. Keep in mind that signing Levi Jones to another year while a guy plays at the RT position. In a perfect world, things would go like my first scenario but I doubt it happens.

Coming to DC would make the Skins his 4th team in 4 years, and it's not like JAX or SF had overwhelming talent at tackle the last two years. He's a marginal talent at best and the Skins would do better to try to find somebody with upside.

We need the BEST OL we can get. We play in the NFC East. We need a DOMINANT OL.

Does this guy fit this role? Not as a starter. Depth? Maybe. But he wants to start ... I do not think so.

Jake wrote:

--OT Tony Pashos : The 49ers will sit down with Pashos' agent at the scouting combine. Pashos has said in the past that he wants to start. The 49ers, meanwhile, are expected to draft an offensive tackle this year. In addition, Pashos' long-time offensive line coach, Chris Foerster, is now in Washington and this is expected to be a weak market for all players, including offensive tackles. The Redskins need offensive linemen, they have deeper pockets than the 49ers and they have Pashos' offensive line coach. All signs point to him playing in D.C.

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If Foerster thought we was good enough to start, he would have started last year.

Redskin in Canada wrote:We need the BEST OL we can get. We play in the NFC East. We need a DOMINANT OL.

Does this guy fit this role? Not as a starter. Depth? Maybe. But he wants to start ... I do not think so.

Tony Pashos is on his way to Washington for a visit with the Redskins, according to Ravens beat writer Aaron Wilson.

The Redskins could go a long way toward repairing their offensive line by getting deals done with Pashos and Chad Clifton Friday. Pashos would likely step in at right tackle and immediately upgrade the 'Skins run blocking. The Broncos are also expected to meet with Pashos.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/player ... FL&id=2190

http://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/10027411481

Interesting. I wonder if Clifton would play LT, Pashos RT, Weigert RG, Dock LG and Casey at C. Heyer at backup, Reinhard at backup......

That would lead me to think that if these guys are signed, we do go after a QB - if available at the #4.

But here's my thought. Clifton is visiting Wash. today but he's like 35+ yrs old. He's only a one to two year solution. I would be more inclined to draft a LT Okung and then have Pashos at RT but that's b/c I really don't think that any of the QB's in this years draft are as good as Flacco, Ryan and any of the other young guns out there.

Clifton is 33...
http://www.nfl.com/players/chadclifton/ ... =CLI075046 ... so not quite as old as you thought but still up there. Any word on Levi Jones? He could give us some great depth and make sure Heyer never sees the field again.

Heyer shouldn't even be a backup. He has no business playing in the NFL. It's what you get for bringing in a Terp.

Levi Jones great depth

Whats next Stephon Heyer = great depth

Yeah, there's just 100's of 23 year old probowl linemen waiting to be handpicked by us.

The reality of it, there aren't. We're looking at some older dudes but the coaches are familiar. Considering the lack of draft picks, needs and salary cap implications.... It's not going to hurt to get some temporary fixes.

You're kidding yourself if you think ALL will be fixed in one year. Some of these guys may start, some might be a backup. We may draft a linemen 1st, and we may get more later in the draft. We may get some guys after the draft and during cuts in the offseason.

How about having a bit of patience?

Jones is great depth... our problems last year were not primarily of his making... I'm not saying he should be a starter, but he's better than most back up linemen and is way better than Heyer. I agree that patience is needed and we can't remake the line in a single year. If we can simply go from awful and ancient, to merely old and ok in a single year, we've made some good progress. Especially if we can get even a single rookie to start. Lets face it, you can't fix years of neglect in a single offseason.

Clifton would play LT, Pashos RT, Weigert RG, Dock LG and Casey at C.

That's certainly an upgrade over last year

Gibbs4Life wrote:

Clifton would play LT, Pashos RT, Weigert RG, Dock LG and Casey at C.

That's certainly an upgrade over last year

I am loving the looks of that OL.....make way for Bradford/Clausen.

spudstr04 wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:

Clifton would play LT, Pashos RT, Weigert RG, Dock LG and Casey at C.

That's certainly an upgrade over last year

I am loving the looks of that OL.....make way for Bradford/Clausen.

Don't get carried away. This OL might be an improvement IF the two 33+ yr old tackles stay healthy. But neither one os knocking on the Pro Bowl door either. Solid, yet unspectacular players. We still need to draft O-lineman badly.

God I hope not. If we were pick up these lineman, I still think you draft Okung at #4. He's just too good to pass up. That guy is a pro-bowl contending, 10 year starter right out of the gate.

frankcal20 wrote:God I hope not. If we were pick up these lineman, I still think you draft Okung at #4. He's just too good to pass up. That guy is a pro-bowl contending, 10 year starter right out of the gate.

and too many questions about Bradford and Claussen. Bradford, besides the obvious injury concerns, never has really shown much when pressured by a good pass rush. he had the luxury of sitting in the pocket, well protected, and making leisurely throws all day. He won't get that kind of time from the Skins OL any time soon.

Claussen just isn't good enough to be a top 5 pick, IMO. He scores about like a late 1st rounder, early 2nd rounder, but he's being talked about in the top10-15 of this draft because there isn't anyone else there at QB. Reminds me of the last over-hyped ND QB coached by Charlie Weiss, Brady Quinn. We all see how well he's developed in three years. I wouldn't be shocked if Claussen slipped much like Brady did down the 1st round board. NFL execs all knew Quinn was not top 10 talent, but the media couldn't stop hyping him anyway.

If we could snag McCoy in the 2nd round, I would be happy.

fleetus wrote:

frankcal20 wrote:God I hope not. If we were pick up these lineman, I still think you draft Okung at #4. He's just too good to pass up. That guy is a pro-bowl contending, 10 year starter right out of the gate.

and too many questions about Bradford and Claussen. Bradford, besides the obvious injury concerns, never has really shown much when pressured by a good pass rush. he had the luxury of sitting in the pocket, well protected, and making leisurely throws all day. He won't get that kind of time from the Skins OL any time soon.

Claussen just isn't good enough to be a top 5 pick, IMO. He scores about like a late 1st rounder, early 2nd rounder, but he's being talked about in the top10-15 of this draft because there isn't anyone else there at QB. Reminds me of the last over-hyped ND QB coached by Charlie Weiss, Brady Quinn. We all see how well he's developed in three years. I wouldn't be shocked if Claussen slipped much like Brady did down the 1st round board. NFL execs all knew Quinn was not top 10 talent, but the media couldn't stop hyping him anyway.

If we could snag McCoy in the 2nd round, I would be happy.

Clausen is a lot better than Quinn. But I don't want a qb. Yet.

spudstr04 wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:

Clifton would play LT, Pashos RT, Weigert RG, Dock LG and Casey at C.

That's certainly an upgrade over last year

I am loving the looks of that OL.....make way for Bradford/Clausen.

Um, I thought our goal was to get YOUNGER on the O-line.

yupchagee wrote:

spudstr04 wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:

Clifton would play LT, Pashos RT, Weigert RG, Dock LG and Casey at C.

That's certainly an upgrade over last year

I am loving the looks of that OL.....make way for Bradford/Clausen.

Um, I thought our goal was to get YOUNGER on the O-line.

It's actually to get better.

yupchagee wrote:Um, I thought our goal was to get YOUNGER on the O-line.

It is. But to get younger we need to have a decent line and bring in youngsters to groom. You don't get younger on OL by starting mid-late round OL's in the first game, which is what we wold have to do if we don't sign vets to bring in. That would just be throwing them to the wolves. Pashos is 29, he would actually be a great addition to help us get younger because he's not running on fumes yet. That gives us more time to groom a young RT and address other positions. It's taken years of neglect to get the OL to where it is. It's not going to be fixed in one draft and we have other gaps as well.

Browns lock up Pashos
Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2010 3:35 PM ET
Veteran offensive lineman Tony Pashos left Washington last night without signing a contract.

And he won't be signing a contract there, at least not in the near future.

Adam Schefter reports that Pashos has agreed to terms on a three-year, $10.3 million deal with the Cleveland Browns.

Pashos entered the league as a fifth-round pick of the Ravens in 2003, and he started every game at right tackle in 2006. He signed with the Jags as an unrestricted free agent in 2007, and he was released last year after refusing to take a pay cut.

Pashos eventually landed with the 49ers via a one-year deal, but he was placed on injured reserve after appearing in five 2009 games, with one start.

Pashos presumably will be in the mix at right tackle, across from Joe Thomas, the current anchor of the Cleveland offensive line.

Well - don't need to pay that kind of money to a guy who's managed to be a back up or overpaid player for much of his career.

This might work to our benefit in grabbing a OT with the #4 pick