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Unsportsman of the Year Award
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:21 pm
by DEHog
Dan Snyder just wants to win.
We’ve heard that since Snyder came here a decade ago, telling tales of a childhood spent wearing his Redskins belt buckle and eating chili in front of the family TV on football Sundays.
I never thought he cared about winning.
I’m a believer now. Snyder’s drive took him back where he belongs: The winner, yet again, of Cheap Seats’ Unsportsman of the Year Award.
Kudos!
Snyder’s always in the lead pack in this annual competition for the lowest dishonor available to local sportspeople. Let’s face it, he usually wins. But last year, the Lerners stole his blunder thunder and took the 2K8 Unsportsman with a series of dumbass sorties that included not signing the Nats’ top pick and not even paying rent on the billion-dollar baseball stadium the city gifted their baseball team. But Snyder clearly set his sights on the bottom rung. While the Lerners took their eyes off the booby prize—this year, they made positively sportsmanlike strides while hiring a competent general manager, lowering ticket prices, and actually signing their first-round draft choice (not to mention paying rent)—Snyder went off. He had the worst year of his decadelong, nothing-but-horrible run as owner.
In 2009, we learned that Snyder is who we thought he was. Which explains why at year’s end, Tiger Woods still has a higher approval rating in his own household than Snyder does in D.C.
Our news hole isn’t big enough to relive all the bad moves—such transcendent Snyder deeds as the public emasculation of Jim Zorn and the broke-grandmother lawsuit are left out—but here are a few of the horrors Snyder unleashed on our community in these last 12 months.
In January, Snyder put out a press release from Redskins Park about the demand for his product, boasting that there were “more than 200,000 people on our waiting list for season tickets.” By April, Washington City Paper obtained a copy of a direct mail solicitation that the team was sending out to people who had never signed up for any waiting list offering them general admission season tickets. The letter promised that anybody who buys tickets “by May 15, 2009” also gets “a $25 Redskins Retail Store Gift Card.” That would be a pretty desperate sales pitch for a team that had even one name on its season-ticket waiting list. Bottom line: There is no waiting list.
The direct mail ended with a plea: “Don’t miss out on this once in a lifetime opportunity!” Sure.
In June, Snyder announced that a bedmaker named Anatomic Global had partnered with his theme park chain, Six Flags, to become the “Official Mattress” of Six Flags.
Snyder is the king of the partnership. Six Flags has an official mayonnaise, for example, and the Redskins have an official carpet installer. But this Anatomic Global alliance was particularly galling to a gang of folks who Snyder had taken for a joyless ride: Six Flags stockholders. Snyder took over the theme-park operator in late 2005 by scaring stockholders with a letter to all investors saying that they’d be “better off hiding their money under a mattress” than investing in Six Flags without him at the helm. Snyder was then elected chairman of the Six Flags board of directors and steadily ran the company into the ground. By this summer, stock that had been worth $11.93 a share early in Snyder’s reign was worth mere pennies. Snyder’s chain filed for bankruptcy in June, just weeks before signing the mattress deal with Anatomic Global. Snyder then started actually selling the beds at his theme parks ($1,299 for a queen size).
Snyder re-revealed a penchant for not paying little people what he owes them. In 2006, he was sued for stiffing his babies’ nanny on salary, and a Maryland court forced him to give her what she was promised. He’s spent this year trying to avoid paying overtime to a group of former employees at the Redskins ticket office. The team argued that his ticket office wasn’t covered by standard overtime laws, citing a 1932 exemption for “amusement and recreation employees” that was in the federal Fair Labor Standards Act. That exemption had historically covered workers such as lifeguards and greenskeepers, not office employees. On July 22, an arbitrator threw out the Redskins exemption argument. That case is now in discovery, and barring a settlement will go to a full arbitration hearing in April. But not a trial: Through the ticket office case, we learned that Snyder requires team employees to waive the right to a jury trial as a condition of employment. The case also got people asking: If Snyder’s really got a waiting list of 200,000, why would his whole staff of ticket-sellers be working so much overtime?
Controlling the message has long been a Snyder fetish, and he’s had a banner year there. In August, he banned everybody but Redskins employees from posting Twitter messages at Redskins Park. In September, Snyder forced the Washington Post’s Dan Steinberg to remove photos from his blog that showed fans wearing or carrying anti-Snyder messages. The Redskins told Steinberg’s editors that his FedExField press pass did not give him permission to take such photos, and that the content of the photos was not an issue. But Steinberg has been posting shots of fans at FedEx for years—one of Alex Ovechkin at a Skins game comes quickly to mind—without ever getting a complaint from the team. The editors removed the photos without a fight.
Snyder’s always been a freak about gouging and parking, too, and he ran wild in both realms in 2009. In August, City Paper discovered Snyder was sneaking a parking surcharge into the cost of every ticket sold for non-football events at FedExField. Anybody buying a ticket online to Paul McCartney’s show, for example, had another $10-per-ticket fee tacked on for parking. Other area venues factor parking charges into the main ticket price, but Snyder provides no way to escape the fee: Even if you took Metro to the show or walked, you still paid for parking. About 60,000 folks showed up for McCartney, so an extra $600,000 went into Snyder’s pockets. At U2, the surcharge was $8. That show drew about a full house, so Snyder pocketed an extra $700,000 or so.
Snyder’s freaky about cheerleaders, too. In October, he threw away the Redskins cheerleaders’ veneer of self-respect by holding a sleazy promotion for WTEM-AM, his sports-talk radio station, that promised winners a personal car wash from scantily clad cheerleaders. As commercials for the promotion were in heavy rotation on WTEM, the director of the Redskins cheerleaders told me nobody had yet told her anything about cheerleaders having to wash cars. The sleaze didn’t stop there, however: Snyder partnered with an outfit called Spongetech for the car-wash promotion. Spongetech, as entries for the contest were still being collected, was bounced from trading on Wall Street by the Securities and Exchange Commission after investigators questioned information it had provided to investors. Nice contest all around.
Speaking of filthy: In October, a Redskins fan posted video evidence that the men’s rooms at FedExField had long been used to sell $8 beers to an audience of pee-ers and the like. Snyder’s flush with cash from the practice, however.
The nadir of the Dan Snyder Era, and that’s saying something, came with the loophole-friendly bag-and-sign ban that the owner quietly put in place at his stadium. After the Tampa Bay game, season ticketholder Dave Alperin told me that FedEx security had searched him and confiscated anti-Snyder signs he had made the night before. The signs were permitted, according to the stadium rules Alperin had read on Snyder’s own Web site before going to the game. But guards told Alperin the rules had just been changed, and that Snyder had instructed his security staff to search fans for anything carrying insulting messages and toss them in the trash.
The ban turned into a violent fiasco by the Monday Night Football game between the Skins and Eagles. On washingtonpost.com, a fan named Liz Angevine posted details of her encounter with a guard at the stadium gates: “When I told her that I wanted to keep my sign and run it back to my car,” Angevine wrote, “she stepped on my sign and ripped it apart!!! I could NOT believe it. I’m still in shock.” Other fans told of guys being accosted and ultimately escorted out of the stadium by a gang of “armed guards” for the crime of wearing shirts that said fire snyder and fire vinny. In the days following the debacle, Redskins Chief Operating Officer David Donovan went on the radio to tell fans that the sign ban had nothing to with content but was about fan safety.
Donovan was fibbing, of course. Steinberg later reported that at the Philly game the same guards who were bullying fans and throwing homemade posters in the trash were handing out GEICO signs at some entrances as part of yet another Snyder promotion.
Snyder quietly dropped the ban a few hours before the kickoff of the Nov. 15 Skins–Denver tilt. Even before ending the sign prohibition at his stadium, Snyder was promoting a fan sign contest as part of a Redskins pep rally at a Rockville bar sponsored by Snyder’s radio station.
What a year. What an Unsportsman.
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:34 pm
by frankcal20
That's funny!!!!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:10 pm
by Irn-Bru
According to Kaz none of this could possibly be seen as anything negative. As long as Snyder doesn't break the law he is incapable of being sleazy, greedy, or a jerk.
(Just kidding buddy . . . sort of.

)
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:10 pm
by Irn-Bru
Great article, DEHog. Link?
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:14 pm
by DEHog
Irn-Bru wrote:Great article, DEHog. Link?
I have a policy to not post links...just google the title and you'll find it.
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:45 pm
by Cappster
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:21 pm
by Redskin in Canada
I would cheer against anything and everything this man represents. I would not be a fan of the Skins if I had to decide to do so now as a youngster. This man does not embody any single virtue which could represent my values.
Daniel Snyder and the Washington Redskins is a contradiction and an aberration.
Well deserved "award" Danny.
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:44 pm
by PulpExposure
What's even the most damning part about the article is it doesn't even go into the really reprehensible way that Snyder treated Zorn this year.
DEHog wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:Great article, DEHog. Link?
I have a policy to not post links...just google the title and you'll find it.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:42 pm
by DEHog
PulpExposure wrote:What's even the most damning part about the article is it doesn't even go into the really reprehensible way that Snyder treated Zorn this year.
DEHog wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:Great article, DEHog. Link?
I have a policy to not post links...just google the title and you'll find it.

Pulp I just get tired of people always discrediting the source...when the article is negative...so I don't post the link...If they want it they can go and look it up. It's ironic because those same people will cridit the same source they ripped when the article is positive...So I simple post the artilce for the sake of discussion.
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:00 pm
by JansenFan
You could just post it in url tags, i.e. [ url=
http://www.mylink.com ]Rest here...[ / url ]
minus spaces, of course. Then we can go to the link and at the same time, the writer/publication can't get mad at us for posting their content without proper credit.
Just a thought...
Besides, it works that way, whether you post the link or not.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:20 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:According to Kaz none of this could possibly be seen as anything negative. As long as Snyder doesn't break the law he is incapable of being sleazy, greedy, or a jerk.

(Just kidding buddy . . . sort of.

)
I don't get it. Are you referring to my position that charging market prices isn't "greedy?" I suppose with the lol and wink you could get from there to you can only be greedy by "breaking the law," sort of. But how does that get you to that he can only be sleazy or a jerk by breaking the law?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:16 am
by SkinsJock
People should be judged by their actions and I think it's fairly clear (to most) that Snyder's actions, as far as this franchise is concerned, leave a lot to be desired. It would appear that his actions involving his other businesses also leave a lot to be desired - one could safely assume that this guy is more likely to let you down than be someone you could count on - Daniel Snyder is not a credit to this franchise or to anything as far as I can tell
Despite his success Snyder should be judged by his actions and they clearly (to most) indicate this guy is a jerk

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:06 pm
by Irn-Bru
KazooSkinsFan wrote:I don't get it. Are you referring to my position that charging market prices isn't "greedy?"
Nope. I'm referring to your clear denials several months ago (? I think) that there weren't good grounds for calling Snyder greedy, sleazy, ego-centric, etc.
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:49 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:I don't get it. Are you referring to my position that charging market prices isn't "greedy?"
Nope. I'm referring to your clear denials several months ago (? I think) that there weren't good grounds for calling Snyder greedy, sleazy, ego-centric, etc.
I didn't say there "weren't grounds." I didn't even say he wasn't greedy. What I said was the grounds the whiners gave me of charging for water and more then they wanted to pay for Jerseys wasn't grounds.
I will tell you in my years as a manager, management consultant and now multi-business owner that the people who want free stuff for "good will" never stop wanting free stuff for good will and you never make money on them. You make money on people like me who have no issue with what he's charging. I love the Skins and have no issue with the cost of SuperFan DirectTV, the cost of games, water at games, water at practices, whatever. He spend 800 million dollars to buy the team and like one hundred and thirty or so a year now, I expect to be charged premium prices for EVERYTHING to support that.
I will say the whiners who want free stuff ARE greedy because they don't want to pay for what they get. But I do agree with them that he doesn't make good business choices running the team, but I don't agree that automatically equates to "greed." and I will also say I agree with them that "if" Snyder is overcharging because he wants money and is costing himself profit then that would be greed, but so far the only evidence they've provided is anecdotal and centered around themselves wanting free stuff. I suppose not really getting these points it "sounds" like what you said, but to one who has a critical mind and understands these points, it's nothing like your portrayal.
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:21 pm
by Irn-Bru
KazooSkinsFan wrote:I didn't say there "weren't grounds." I didn't even say he wasn't greedy. What I said was the grounds the whiners gave me of charging for water and more then they wanted to pay for Jerseys wasn't grounds.
Your misstating of the position does not constitute a response, much less an argument. As I thought was likely, this post was just a string of Kazooisms. I hope you weren't expecting me to try to untangle all of that and go deeper into a meaningless round of word splicing with you.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:10 am
by KazooSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:I didn't say there "weren't grounds." I didn't even say he wasn't greedy. What I said was the grounds the whiners gave me of charging for water and more then they wanted to pay for Jerseys wasn't grounds.
Your misstating of the position does not constitute a response, much less an argument. As I thought was likely, this post was just a string of Kazooisms. I hope you weren't expecting me to try to untangle all of that and go deeper into a meaningless round of word splicing with you.

I like the indignation in a conversation that started like this:
Irn-Bru wrote:According to Kaz none of this could possibly be seen as anything negative. As long as Snyder doesn't break the law he is incapable of being sleazy, greedy, or a jerk.

(Just kidding buddy . . . sort of.

)
But going back to that discussion, I asked about greed, I got things like that he took water bottles on fan appreciation day so he could sell water and that Jerseys cost too much. You seemed to indicate it had been proven, I made the comment about charging for the product isn't "greed," you told me there was "more to that" and I should go back and re-read it. I did, I didn't see more, I asked you again what you are referring to that is "more" and you chose not to back it up. That was your choice to do but you don't get credit now for having done so, though if you want to back it up now that would be more interesting.
As for "word splicing," can you show me an example of that? You realize it has a specific meaning. It doesn't just mean "bad." You may note also I really don't argue that way with you. In debating I'm not like a box of chocolates, I'm more of a mirror and you don't argue that way.
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:26 am
by Irn-Bru
KazooSkinsFan wrote:I like the indignation in a conversation that started like this:
No indignation here, and I'm sorry if that's how I came across.
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:50 am
by DEHog
But going back to that discussion, I asked about greed, I got things like that he took water bottles on fan appreciation day so he could sell water and that Jerseys cost too much.
You also got the whole ticket fiasco from me...You know I have agreed with you as far as prices go....but sorry but I can't help but to think any owner who sells their season tickets on the open market while claiming to have a 200K + waiting list seems a bit greedy to me.
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:38 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:I like the indignation in a conversation that started like this:
No indignation here, and I'm sorry if that's how I came across.
I see so much wrong with Snyder. I just don't get the "greed" thing. I think his issues stem from being an arrogant, micromanaging donkey's posterior and that explains everything he does. The way he spends money doesn't say to me that he's obsessed with accumulating money. He seems to me to be obsessed with power and attention, and while not admirable those don't equate to "greed." I'm open to changing my mind, but the things that I've seen seem to me to be in the category of I personally have no problem paying for it and in fact expect to. That doesn't mean you can't see it differently, but I'm not seeing what you seem to.
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:43 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
DEHog wrote:But going back to that discussion, I asked about greed, I got things like that he took water bottles on fan appreciation day so he could sell water and that Jerseys cost too much.
You also got the whole ticket fiasco from me...You know I have agreed with you as far as prices go....but sorry but I can't help but to think any owner who sells their season tickets on the open market while claiming to have a 200K + waiting list seems a bit greedy to me.
I thought you had a valid point on your ticket renewal, but I can tell you if I'd borrowed almost a billion dollars and was spending over 100M a year on payroll alone I'd be looking for every dollar revenue I could get too and the panic that would be driving me wouldn't be accurately described as "greed." Do you realize at 5% just interest and payroll is roughly 300 million a year? Three hundred million dollars each and every year. Just on interest and salary.
Is it really that hard to understand why he needs to charge high prices for everything? I don't like the way he's running the team, but if I go to any Redskin event I expect to pay premium prices for everything. And there are a lot of us who just don't have an issue with it and a whole lot of people are in DC with more money then I have.
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:45 pm
by PulpExposure
KazooSkinsFan wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:I like the indignation in a conversation that started like this:
No indignation here, and I'm sorry if that's how I came across.
I see so much wrong with Snyder. I just don't get the "greed" thing. I think his issues stem from being an arrogant, micromanaging donkey's posterior and that explains everything he does. The way he spends money doesn't say to me that he's obsessed with accumulating money. He seems to me to be obsessed with power and attention, and while not admirable those don't equate to "greed." I'm open to changing my mind, but the things that I've seen seem to me to be in the category of I personally have no problem paying for it and in fact expect to. That doesn't mean you can't see it differently, but I'm not seeing what you seem to.
I am with you actually on this. I think he acts like a horse's rear end, and is really a contemptible person. I also don't get the "greed" thing. I also just think he's just powerdrunk. But, if he was greedy, he'd have raised ticket prices more than 2 times in the past decade...other teams (like the Ravens, for instance) have raised ticket prices 5 times in that time frame.
Also...
this article shows how profitable the Skins actually are.
The Washington Redskins make more money than any other professional sports franchise in the United States. Their estimated annual revenue is $345 million, according to Forbes.
Good lord.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:14 am
by old-timer
I think it's clear we have absolutely the worst owner in sports.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:50 am
by DEHog
KazooSkinsFan wrote:DEHog wrote:But going back to that discussion, I asked about greed, I got things like that he took water bottles on fan appreciation day so he could sell water and that Jerseys cost too much.
You also got the whole ticket fiasco from me...You know I have agreed with you as far as prices go....but sorry but I can't help but to think any owner who sells their season tickets on the open market while claiming to have a 200K + waiting list seems a bit greedy to me.
I thought you had a valid point on your ticket renewal, but I can tell you if I'd borrowed almost a billion dollars and was spending over 100M a year on payroll alone I'd be looking for every dollar revenue I could get too and the panic that would be driving me wouldn't be accurately described as "greed." Do you realize at 5% just interest and payroll is roughly 300 million a year? Three hundred million dollars each and every year. Just on interest and salary.
Is it really that hard to understand why he needs to charge high prices for everything? I don't like the way he's running the team, but if I go to any Redskin event I expect to pay premium prices for everything. And there are a lot of us who just don't have an issue with it and a whole lot of people are in DC with more money then I have.
Wait until after next season when Danny collects all our money for tickets and then votes to lockout the players and then doesn't give us our money back...
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:50 pm
by Irn-Bru
old-timer wrote:I think it's clear we have absolutely the worst owner in sports.
Nah. We don't even have the worst in the NFL, much less all of sports.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:02 pm
by PulpExposure
Irn-Bru wrote:old-timer wrote:I think it's clear we have absolutely the worst owner in sports.
Nah. We don't even have the worst in the NFL, much less all of sports.
Yeah, that's exactly right.