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What an embarrassment. 24-0 and the Skins look horrible in every way

There has been talk on this board since Allen was hired about;

Maybe we give Zorn another year

Maybe we don't have to rebuild, we just need to tweak

No way. This thing needs to be burned down from the Head Coach, D- Coorindator, to the players.

Start over Bruce. It doesn't get worse than this.

The Giants have pulled our britches down and spanked us on National TV.

Ouch

LMAO, lay off the juice... Actually your just saying what I'm thinking. I agree, everything needs to be overhauled/replaced.

After tonights game Jim Zorn is so fired. It has become comical what the heck was that at the end of the half swinging gate LMAO!

I loved the protection we had for the trick play too.. 1 against 4

Man my blood is boiling. Can't wait to catch s*&^ tomorrow at work. Good thing the Bears suck bad too

Looks like Devin Thomas has started to take tips from ARE. Doh!!

Devin Thomas is a horrible return man... and this team is an embarrassment.

I love how we REALLY show up to play on the nationally televised games

This team has been bad for a while now - what we saw tonight is who we really are - this is a group of talented players that need to be brought together and coached properly to play together as a team - we are going to get better - hopefully Snyder let's the FO guys that know how to make this franchise be competitive again, do their thing

Dave Allen wrote:What an embarrassment. 24-0 and the Skins look horrible in every way

There has been talk on this board since Allen was hired about;

Maybe we give Zorn another year

Maybe we don't have to rebuild, we just need to tweak

No way. This thing needs to be burned down from the Head Coach, D- Coorindator, to the players.

Start over Bruce. It doesn't get worse than this.

The Giants have pulled our britches down and spanked us on National TV.

Ouch

is this THE dave allen...? aren't you related to Bruce......?

were the worst team in the nfl, with the hands down worst coach, id rather kyle shanahan be HC

To hell with ya'll statements... GO SKINS!!!!! LETS BEAT DALLAS!!!!!!!

We are so bad right now that I will have to DVR the game Sunday because I can't bear to watch the Redskins give the game to the Cowboys.

This team is over matched physically, mentally, skillfully, and most important, intellectually... the offensive line is really a strange issue... I understand a bunch of 3rd stringers being physically over matched, but time and time again guys are intentionally going the wrong way or double-teaming a guy while the guy next to him goes untouched into the backfield... it happens so much, I'm beginning to think there's got to be more to it than player after player not knowing who to block in a given situation...

Can we cut ties with Landry, please... he obviously can't cover, and no matter how many times he's councelled about just getting the guy on the ground instead of going for the highlight hit, he refuses to break down and wrap up...

Orakpo should never again be forced into pass coverage... I feel so bad for the guy in those situations... you can see he's trying hard, but it's just not in his skill set...

How many players and coaches are on this team that you would be upset about losing in the off season?... That should give you an idea how many holes we have to fill...

It's just idiotic to use Haynesworth to stuff gaps, Landry to cover deep, Orakpo to cover the TE or FB... I mean, how asinine is that? Any fool can see guys are being played out of position on defense!

It's like if the Nats used Zimmerman to play 1B and frequently asked him to bunt and steal bases... it's that ridiculous.

The whole team is a mess, but at least things look like they're going in the right direction.

It's like if the Nats used Zimmerman to play 1B and frequently asked him to bunt and steal bases... it's that ridiculous.

Why not? They did it with Frank Howard

Skinsfan55 wrote:It's just idiotic to use Haynesworth to stuff gaps, Landry to cover deep, Orakpo to cover the TE or FB... I mean, how asinine is that? Any fool can see guys are being played out of position on defense!

The whole team is a mess, but at least things look like they're going in the right direction.

Been sayin this all year.

issues across the board is all i can say.

tribeofjudah wrote:

Dave Allen wrote:What an embarrassment. 24-0 and the Skins look horrible in every way

There has been talk on this board since Allen was hired about;

Maybe we give Zorn another year

Maybe we don't have to rebuild, we just need to tweak

No way. This thing needs to be burned down from the Head Coach, D- Coorindator, to the players.

Start over Bruce. It doesn't get worse than this.

The Giants have pulled our britches down and spanked us on National TV.

Ouch

is this THE dave allen...? aren't you related to Bruce......?

I wish I was related to Bruce, bro. Have lots of ideas on how to improve this team. But no, just a Dave Allen who used to live in the DC area and now lives in Arizona who is a life long Skins fan

Dave Allen wrote:Maybe we don't have to rebuild, we just need to tweak

No way. This thing needs to be burned down from the Head Coach, D- Coorindator, to the players.

Start over Bruce. It doesn't get worse than this

Neither do proposals. Why again with the extreme options only? We need a lot of changes, but to "start over" is ridiculous as well. We have lots of guys who should remain part of our future. You also ignore the cap and how if we burn the roof off the sucker then rebuilding can't even start for years. Is your plan to lock up the next several #1 picks until we have cap again to sign anyone to play with them?

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Dave Allen wrote:Maybe we don't have to rebuild, we just need to tweak

No way. This thing needs to be burned down from the Head Coach, D- Coorindator, to the players.

Start over Bruce. It doesn't get worse than this

Neither do proposals. Why again with the extreme options only? We need a lot of changes, but to "start over" is ridiculous as well. We have lots of guys who should remain part of our future. You also ignore the cap and how if we burn the roof off the sucker then rebuilding can't even start for years. Is your plan to lock up the next several #1 picks until we have cap again to sign anyone to play with them?

Well actually, your logic seems kind of backwards... being that the cap is one of the biggest problems, then wouldn't the season WITHOUT a cap be the best (and only) time to re-build completely?

I understand the sentiment, and obviously we don't need to be looking for 53 new guys, but a capless year would definitely be the time to trim off the fat wouldn't it?

BossHog wrote:Well actually, your logic seems kind of backwards... being that the cap is one of the biggest problems, then wouldn't the season WITHOUT a cap be the best (and only) time to re-build completely?

I understand the sentiment, and obviously we don't need to be looking for 53 new guys, but a capless year would definitely be the time to trim off the fat wouldn't it?

I'd agree that if we have a capless year then we'd love to shed some salaries, but I guess for me O and D are separate discussions. There are a few moves we could make on D. Rogers and strong side LB could be upgraded for sure. We could dump CG's cap hit if it's a capless year. But mostly I like what we have. O we should start over with only a very few exceptions though. ey the only totally safe one, though I like Davis and would keep Dockery. I'd consider some others, like Thomas (Devon, not Randy), but we just don't have much to build on there.

BossHog wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Dave Allen wrote:Maybe we don't have to rebuild, we just need to tweak

No way. This thing needs to be burned down from the Head Coach, D- Coorindator, to the players.

Start over Bruce. It doesn't get worse than this

Neither do proposals. Why again with the extreme options only? We need a lot of changes, but to "start over" is ridiculous as well. We have lots of guys who should remain part of our future. You also ignore the cap and how if we burn the roof off the sucker then rebuilding can't even start for years. Is your plan to lock up the next several #1 picks until we have cap again to sign anyone to play with them?

Well actually, your logic seems kind of backwards... being that the cap is one of the biggest problems, then wouldn't the season WITHOUT a cap be the best (and only) time to re-build completely?

I understand the sentiment, and obviously we don't need to be looking for 53 new guys, but a capless year would definitely be the time to trim off the fat wouldn't it?

It would also be a brilliant time to launch a Redskins reality tv show on Redskins.comTv powered by "CareerBuilder".

They can call it "Pimp My Roster"!!!

Think the Danny can make it work?

Skinsfan55 wrote:Devin Thomas is a horrible return man... and this team is an embarrassment.

because he had ONE bad game returning kicks???

are most people so angry on the boards today because they had such high hopes because of the way the team was playing recently, and jumped back onto the bandwagon??? guess most people are off again???

JCaptMorgan12 wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:Devin Thomas is a horrible return man... and this team is an embarrassment.

because he had ONE bad game returning kicks???

are most people so angry on the boards today because they had such high hopes because of the way the team was playing recently, and jumped back onto the bandwagon??? guess most people are off again???

I am so angry today for several reasons:

We got B-slapped on national TV last night

We have been the butt of ESPN jokes all day today

I had people over to watch the game last night (yes there are Skins fans everywhere, even Tucson Arizona) and it was over two possessions in.

But most of all I'm angry today because we suck and have sucked for a long time.