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Cooley: Playcalling is 'a carousel of calls'

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:22 am
by CanesSkins26
Tight end Chris Cooley today shed some light on the Redskins' play-calling process in an interview today on "The SIRIUS Blitz" on SIRIUS NFL Radio.

Cooley, speaking with co-hosts Adam Schein and Rich Gannon, provided insight into how the Redskins have installed their weekly game plans, practiced during the week and handled play-calling during games since owner Daniel Snyder and Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, stripped Zorn of play-calling duties before the Week 7 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles. Cooley said that Sherman Lewis, who was originally hired as an offensive consultant and then given playcalling responsibility, and quarterback Jason Campbell hardly interact during the week, which is highly uncommon for a quarterback and the person directing a team's offense. The Redskins have declined reporters' repeated requests to speak with Lewis.

"We have a really weird deal going on right now with the kind of rotation of who calls the plays, to where it goes, to who gets it and how it gets to Jason," said Cooley, who was placed on the season-ending injured-reserve list Monday. "It's almost unheard of. And the funny thing is the last couple weeks the offense has looked better than it has."

Schein pressed Cooley for a more detailed explanation, which he gladly provided.

"Okay, so what goes on is our coaches sit together at the beginning of the week and they design a game plan," Cooley continues. "All the coaches design the plays, they all have different responsibilities. Some coaches have third down, some coaches have the passing game, some have the red [zone], and then they all get together. So then what happens is Sherman Lewis, who is our offensive consultant [and play-caller], will install the regular game plan and then we go practice that. And then on Thursday, Jim Zorn will install the third down and then he'll also install the run game. And apparently, because I haven't really been there, is that Sherman Lewis never talks to Jason Campbell throughout the week.

"I mean, they don't have direct communication. Jim Zorn and Chris Meidt, who is Jason Campbell's quarterbacks coach, do all the coaching for Jason. So, anyway, that's confusing, I know. It was easier on TV this week when they just drew pictures of everyone. But what happens is we get to game day, Sherman Lewis sits in the box; he calls plays. He's the play caller. And he calls them down to our offensive coordinator, another person in the mix, Sherman Smith. And he looks at plays and basically calls them - they're wristband numbers - so he'll say, 'Wristband 5,' and that's what's relayed to Jason Campbell, who then looks at his wristband and calls that play. The funny thing is, is that when we want to call a run play, Sherman Lewis will call and say, 'give me a run' and then Sherman Smith has to pick a run and give that to Jason. So it's, uh, it's a carousel of calls."


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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:01 pm
by frankcal20
I can't imagine why an O.C. would not be talking to QB. Those are two very important positions on the team and for them not to be talking explains a lot of why things just don't work. How can Sherm know what JC is seeing if they don't talk?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:03 pm
by Irn-Bru
It's a duct-tape solution. But I have to admit that it's been functioning better than what they used for the first half of the season.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:24 pm
by frankcal20
It's put points on the board but I wonder if a little communication b/w the guy calling the plays and the QB would do to put more points on the board. Maybe give the QB more opportunities to audible when he see's something on the field and know's that the play won't work.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:31 pm
by CanesSkins26
frankcal20 wrote:It's put points on the board but I wonder if a little communication b/w the guy calling the plays and the QB would do to put more points on the board. Maybe give the QB more opportunities to audible when he see's something on the field and know's that the play won't work.


I agree. The problem, I think, is that they already have so many guys talking with JC. Apparently, he works with Sherm Smith, Chris Meidt, and Zorn. The ideal situation, imo, would be for Meidt or Zorn to back off. It seems like the less things that Zorn touches the better off the team is.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:59 pm
by TincoSkin
i cant believe that the game plan is set then zorn adds runs plays? and third down plays?? i dont even understand that! how can a game plan be set if there are no running plays??? or third down plays? im sooo confused!! and mad!! In addition the running plays and third down calls that zorn has come up with are not added to the mix until thursday!! what??

this thread should be in smack.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:04 pm
by frankcal20
CanesSkins26 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:It's put points on the board but I wonder if a little communication b/w the guy calling the plays and the QB would do to put more points on the board. Maybe give the QB more opportunities to audible when he see's something on the field and know's that the play won't work.


I agree. The problem, I think, is that they already have so many guys talking with JC. Apparently, he works with Sherm Smith, Chris Meidt, and Zorn. The ideal situation, imo, would be for Meidt or Zorn to back off. It seems like the less things that Zorn touches the better off the team is.


From what I'm hearing, Meidt is the main one running the offense. He's in the box with Sherm and assisting him calling the plays. I wonder how much Sherm is really doing and if it's really Meidt doing the majority of playcalling. Wonder if he'll get a look at for an OC somewhere.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:10 pm
by CanesSkins26
TincoSkin wrote:i cant believe that the game plan is set then zorn adds runs plays? and third down plays?? i dont even understand that! how can a game plan be set if there are no running plays??? or third down plays? im sooo confused!! and mad!! In addition the running plays and third down calls that zorn has come up with are not added to the mix until thursday!! what??

this thread should be in smack.


Nothing about our play calling situation makes any sense. What gets me the most is that Zorn is still the one calling plays on 4th down and in 2 minute warning situations. If the organization didn't think that he was good enough to call all of the plays, why would he be the one making the calls in the most critical situations during a game?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:10 pm
by CanesSkins26
frankcal20 wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:It's put points on the board but I wonder if a little communication b/w the guy calling the plays and the QB would do to put more points on the board. Maybe give the QB more opportunities to audible when he see's something on the field and know's that the play won't work.


I agree. The problem, I think, is that they already have so many guys talking with JC. Apparently, he works with Sherm Smith, Chris Meidt, and Zorn. The ideal situation, imo, would be for Meidt or Zorn to back off. It seems like the less things that Zorn touches the better off the team is.


From what I'm hearing, Meidt is the main one running the offense. He's in the box with Sherm and assisting him calling the plays. I wonder how much Sherm is really doing and if it's really Meidt doing the majority of playcalling. Wonder if he'll get a look at for an OC somewhere.


That's interesting. What an odd situation.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:25 pm
by riggofan
Dump Campbell. Draft McCoy or Bradford.


Yeah that's the big problem in DC. That's what we need to do with our first round pick.

Why not just change your sig file to:

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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:27 pm
by frankcal20
^ oooooo - you're in trouble!!!!

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:01 pm
by CanesSkins26
riggofan wrote:
Dump Campbell. Draft McCoy or Bradford.


Yeah that's the big problem in DC. That's what we need to do with our first round pick.

Why not just change your sig file to:

_________________
my opinions should not be taken seriously


Clever. If you don't see qb as a problem then you should probably just stop watching football and go watch the WNBA or some similar sport.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:13 pm
by frankcal20
I don't think that's what he's saying. I interpret what he's saying is that it's not the "BIG" problem. The "BIG" problem is the front office and the lack of an offensive line. That's the consensus of the fanbase along with the majority of people who are watching the NFL. QB is not our biggest area of need and I really don't think that you think it is. You would just like to see a better QB at the position. But even if we had any other QB running the show, I don't think we are a playoff team with this current offensive line and our inability of the front office to view that as an area of need or identify any bit of talent is ridiculous. I look at Cody Glenn - who's not on the team any more - what a waste of a pick. The thought process there made no sense when we all knew that pick and others should have been used for linemen - plain and simple.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:59 pm
by CanesSkins26
frankcal20 wrote:I don't think that's what he's saying. I interpret what he's saying is that it's not the "BIG" problem. The "BIG" problem is the front office and the lack of an offensive line. That's the consensus of the fanbase along with the majority of people who are watching the NFL. QB is not our biggest area of need and I really don't think that you think it is. You would just like to see a better QB at the position. But even if we had any other QB running the show, I don't think we are a playoff team with this current offensive line and our inability of the front office to view that as an area of need or identify any bit of talent is ridiculous. I look at Cody Glenn - who's not on the team any more - what a waste of a pick. The thought process there made no sense when we all knew that pick and others should have been used for linemen - plain and simple.


Maybe I misinterpreted what he was saying. I certainly agree that the front office is far and away the #1 problem with the organization. Vinny needs to go, Snyder needs to take a step back, and a competent GM and coach need to be brought in. There is ZERO doubt about that imo.

Once you get away from the FO/coaching structure, I think that the oline and qb are the two main issues that plague this team. Imo, for us to be anything other than mediocre BOTH need to be addressed.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:18 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
frankcal20 wrote:I can't imagine why an O.C. would not be talking to QB. Those are two very important positions on the team and for them not to be talking explains a lot of why things just don't work. How can Sherm know what JC is seeing if they don't talk?

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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:51 pm
by PAPDOG67
CanesSkins26 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:I don't think that's what he's saying. I interpret what he's saying is that it's not the "BIG" problem. The "BIG" problem is the front office and the lack of an offensive line. That's the consensus of the fanbase along with the majority of people who are watching the NFL. QB is not our biggest area of need and I really don't think that you think it is. You would just like to see a better QB at the position. But even if we had any other QB running the show, I don't think we are a playoff team with this current offensive line and our inability of the front office to view that as an area of need or identify any bit of talent is ridiculous. I look at Cody Glenn - who's not on the team any more - what a waste of a pick. The thought process there made no sense when we all knew that pick and others should have been used for linemen - plain and simple.


Maybe I misinterpreted what he was saying. I certainly agree that the front office is far and away the #1 problem with the organization. Vinny needs to go, Snyder needs to take a step back, and a competent GM and coach need to be brought in. There is ZERO doubt about that imo.

Once you get away from the FO/coaching structure, I think that the oline and qb are the two main issues that plague this team. Imo, for us to be anything other than mediocre BOTH need to be addressed.



Amen to that. I was one of Campbell's biggest supporters throughout his career, but BOTH the O-line and QB need to be addressed. Those of you that still think JC can be a good QB, I ask you to name me more than one come from behind 4th Quarter drive he has produced in his career? I honestly don't remember any......and that's a major problem.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:02 pm
by frankcal20
believe it was the saints last year or the year before. off the top of my head.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:12 pm
by PAPDOG67
frankcal20 wrote:believe it was the saints last year or the year before. off the top of my head.


That's my point Frank, the Saints game is actually his only 4th quarter comeback I can remember.......and we're in a ton of close games. Time for us to cut bait with this guy. He just can seem to get it done in crunch time.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:25 pm
by frankcal20
So you don't think that the defense bears some of that responsibility? For argument sake, the last two weeks, all they needed to do - at the end of the game - is get the defense off the field. I think that the defense has a better chance of doing that than the offense to make plays at the end of the game. But our team hasn't shown the ability to do either.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:29 pm
by CanesSkins26
frankcal20 wrote:So you don't think that the defense bears some of that responsibility? For argument sake, the last two weeks, all they needed to do - at the end of the game - is get the defense off the field. I think that the defense has a better chance of doing that than the offense to make plays at the end of the game. But our team hasn't shown the ability to do either.


That's not really fair frank. Against Dallas we gave up 7 points. No way should a team lose when it gives up 7 points. And against Philly the offense had the ball in their hands late in the game and couldn't even get a first down, if I recall correctly. The defense has done more than its fair share for this team.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:40 pm
by frankcal20
CanesSkins26 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:So you don't think that the defense bears some of that responsibility? For argument sake, the last two weeks, all they needed to do - at the end of the game - is get the defense off the field. I think that the defense has a better chance of doing that than the offense to make plays at the end of the game. But our team hasn't shown the ability to do either.


That's not really fair frank. Against Dallas we gave up 7 points. No way should a team lose when it gives up 7 points. And against Philly the offense had the ball in their hands late in the game and couldn't even get a first down, if I recall correctly. The defense has done more than its fair share for this team.


I know it's a lot to ask but the defense had shown all game that they could stop Dallas. As a defense, you've got to make that stop. You've got to make sure that their top WR is not making plays and that haunted us late in the game with Avant making plays against our dbacks.

As for the offense against Philly, the ball just didn't go our way. If I remember correctly, Rock made a nice run, Kelly had a big catch and then line broke down. Why we stopped with the short passes is beyond me but this line can not protect when JC has a 7 step drop. Why the coach/consultant/whoever called plays to do that several times in a row is beyond me but I think that all the loses are on everyone. Not just the QB. And I think that's fair to say.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:46 pm
by Manchester_Redskin
Why dont they set up a website and let us fans chip in with our play calls too.

What a farce :cry:

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:59 pm
by Gametime33
It is bad when you have Sam Huff critcizing London Fletcher for not tackling every player who touched the ball in the Skins' latest version of coulda woulda shoulda performances.

No. 59 had 12 tackles and laid a vicious, legal hit on DeSean Jackson. (Philly's rising star)

Jackson suffered a concussion and did not return for the second half, which for a team with at least a decent pass rush could feast on McNabb & make him earn the "w" with his suspect arm.

But we don't blitz effectively. One corner blitz from Tryon and because it it failed to bother McNabb we don't go back to the well.

To me that's been a huge concern for the offensive playcalling as well.

Why after effectively marching down the field with the West Coast Offense clicking did Zorn & Co. lay up and go back to calling running plays in the red zone?

The lead was 21-16 after the Skins took the first drive of the third quarter lead by Campbell's quick throws to Randle El and Devin Thomas.

The win was a lock with one toss into the end zone.

Two ineffective running plays and a give up throw from JC to avoid a sack later we had to settle for a Shaun Suisham field goal.

And the rest is history.

It is an exercise in futility to have real confidence that this team will win another game.

Maybe in two weeks versus the hapless Raiders. Or maybe they get some payback against Norval's Chargers in Week 16.

Tired of rehashing how bad the o-line is. Yes they are old & banged up.

For the no-names currently starting hats off for digging your fingers in the dirt despite all of the hate spewed on these message boards.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:06 pm
by VetSkinsFan
CanesSkins26 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:So you don't think that the defense bears some of that responsibility? For argument sake, the last two weeks, all they needed to do - at the end of the game - is get the defense off the field. I think that the defense has a better chance of doing that than the offense to make plays at the end of the game. But our team hasn't shown the ability to do either.


That's not really fair frank. Against Dallas we gave up 7 points. No way should a team lose when it gives up 7 points. And against Philly the offense had the ball in their hands late in the game and couldn't even get a first down, if I recall correctly. The defense has done more than its fair share for this team.


We shoulda won Philly..that was on the D. And let's not forget the 'legal' slam on JC on 4th down.

The Dallas game was all on the offense.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:04 am
by PAPDOG67
frankcal20 wrote:So you don't think that the defense bears some of that responsibility? For argument sake, the last two weeks, all they needed to do - at the end of the game - is get the defense off the field. I think that the defense has a better chance of doing that than the offense to make plays at the end of the game. But our team hasn't shown the ability to do either.


Regardless of what the defense gives up, a good QB will every once in a while will comeback and win that game for the team given the ball and 2+ minutes to play. JC never seems to be able to do it, with the exception of the NO game last season.....Hell, even Redman from the Falcons had a come from behind 4th quarter drive this past week, and Josh Freeman had one in his first start. One 4th quarter comeback in 47 starts in all the close games this team has played over the last 4 seasons tells me this guy is missing something. Time to move on.