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What a difference!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:34 pm
by tj123456
This from ESPN:

When Washington hired Sherman Lewis to call its plays, he was mocked and criticized. The amount of ridicule was shortsighted and mean-spirited, particularly for a man as accomplished as Lewis -- a former offensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings and Detroit Lions.

Now that Lewis has had three games to call Washington's plays, check out how the Redskins' offensive production compares. In the first six games of the season, the Redskins averaged 12.4 points per game; in the past three games, they have averaged 20.3. In the first six games, the Redskins averaged 16 first downs per game; in the past three games, they have averaged 20. In the first six games, the Redskins averaged 294 yards per game; in the past three, they have averaged 336.

The average rank of the defenses the Redskins played in the first six weeks was 21st; the average rank of the defenses the Redskins played in the past three weeks was 13th. And, in the past three weeks, the Redskins have been without offensive linemen Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas, tight end Chris Cooley, and running back Clinton Portis for one game. So when the Redskins brought aboard Lewis to call plays, there really was one word to describe it: Bingo.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/s ... id=4668347


I for one, thought anything had to be better than "sweeps on the one"! I think a lot of people in the media owe this guy an apology. And the Front Office for that matter. Zorn was overwhelemed and the Mr. Burns new it.

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:52 pm
by tribeofjudah
I like it....I like it..... Bingo

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:22 pm
by SkinsJock
in my opinion - we should not have brought in Lewis - the problems on offense are not solely due to the play calling - we have a lot more issues than that to make this be more effective offense :roll:

you know what - we should try a different owner :lol:

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:23 am
by Chris Luva Luva
IMHO, injuries and the play calling are the big differences.


Key injuries have forced coaches to expand our arsenal. We're finally seeing players get a FRIGGIN CHANCE and they're responding.

The play calling is also more varied and players such as Fred, Devon and Yoder are finally getting some burn. Even Betts... Zorn publicly downed the rookies and it took an EXPERIENCED NFL COORDINATOR to know how to properly get them in the game. SHOCK AND AWE!

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:48 am
by Irn-Bru
There's no doubt the playcalling has been better. We still have some troubles executing, but it helps when the play design gets your guy open or opens that hole for the RB. We've been more unpredictable, too, which is great.

I'm still looking for some more of those downfield looks. I'm hoping for a 50+ yard bomb in today's game.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:55 am
by SkinsJock
The problem with our arsenal is that a lot of the 'bombs' either get delivered to a place where no one is waiting OR just don't go off :lol:

Re: What a difference!!!

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:32 am
by KazooSkinsFan
When Washington hired Sherman Lewis to call its plays, he was mocked and criticized. The amount of ridicule was shortsighted and mean-spirited, particularly for a man as accomplished as Lewis -- a former offensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings and Detroit Lions

As someone who mocked and criticized Lewis, I stand by it. That fiasco by Danny so screwed us. Publicly doing that to his coach will makes it so much harder for Zorn to be taken seriously by anyone or for us to land top candidates. There just is no doubt now our FO is a gag organization. While I blame Danny far more then Lewis, for Lewis to agree to to participate in undercutting Zorn was a pathetic, self serving decision. He should have never agreed to that. He should have told Danny to work it out privately with Zorn and have Zorn publicly hire him. Winning a game over Denver doesn't make that circus right. Lewis's past IS tarnished by this pathetic decision on his part.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:46 pm
by SkinsJock
I'm not as knowledgeable as most of the regulars here but I really do think that a lot of the issues we are having on offense will just go away when Sherm Lewis and Jason Campbell are not involved with anything that happens on the field :lol:

sorry but this combination is just not happening - I understand that we want Campbell to do well so that we might find a team stupid enough to think that this guy can play QB in the NFL but I'm also hoping that Sherm Lewis goes back to calling bingo games because he's certainly not going to get a job in the NFL :lol:

what a joke having Lewis decide if it's a pass play or not and if it's a running play then Sherman Smith calls the play :shock:

i also understand from today's broadcast that Campbell says he hardly ever talks with lewis during the week - must be great not even having a rapport with the guy you're getting to run the plays you call :lol:

this is just a joke :lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:03 am
by DEHog
riiiiigth...6 points big difference!!

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:04 pm
by VetSkinsFan
So...Sherm Lewis comes in and stats get better, and he's a problem? S Smith needs to be fired as well as Zorn and let Lewis be O Coord.

Sometimes, you have to let go of the "I hate Danny," obsession and just address what needs to be addressed. Whining about Danny and blaming him for every single solitary freaking issue is well and good if you want ot whine, but he's not going anywhere. Deal with it.

What we have to do now is figure out how things will work WHILE Danny's the owner. A complaint without a solution is just whining. Be proactive and if you don't have a PLAUSIBLE solution with your whine, you'll be saying nothing new. Just annoying.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:14 pm
by markshark84
So does anyone feel different after the 6 point performance?

While I do believe that our calls have improved, we are still having the same results. Crazy thought here, does anyone think it may not be the playcalling but the personell? Do we have a 'coach killer' on our team???

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:15 pm
by TincoSkin
how about, our whole team sucks? i dont think we could bring in belichek and get anything more out of this group. we could get a new RB and nothing would change, we could get a new QB and nothing would change.

what we need is time. we had a couple chances over the last few years to make a run and we didnt. our stars are now getting old and our coaching staff is busted. we need to start over, its gonna take time and its gonna be painful.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:50 am
by tribeofjudah
TincoSkin wrote:how about, our whole team sucks? i dont think we could bring in belichek and get anything more out of this group. we could get a new RB and nothing would change, we could get a new QB and nothing would change.

what we need is time. we had a couple chances over the last few years to make a run and we didnt. our stars are now getting old and our coaching staff is busted. we need to start over, its gonna take time and its gonna be painful.


Get that C4 out of the trunk....blow this whole thing UP....!!!

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:36 am
by Chris Luva Luva
DEHog wrote:riiiiigth...6 points big difference!!


Zorn admitted to calling a rack of plays during the conference. He sabotaged that game. It had his finger prints all over it. The screwed time management, the horrible timeouts, the gutless play calling.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:44 am
by SkinsJock
just my opinion - while I understand that Snyder is most likely not leaving or giving up being involved - I hope that he has seen that he needs to bring in someone that knows how to run a franchise and just sit back and take all the credit - most likely not happening but ......

I would hope that scenario would also mean that Cerrato and Zorn are gone - now, I would not say that anyone needs to go like Sherm Lewis but I would be surprised if he's still here - I mean, the guy may look good to us considering what has been going on here the last 2 years but this guy is not who I think we are going to have calling plays here next year - he's going back to the bingo game

what I'm hoping is that everyone that stays, players and coaching staff, is staying because they are deemed by the new guys in charge to be able to help this franchise put a better product on the field - we need a change of culture here and I'm sorry but that will mean a lot of people will not be here - they made their beds and now they get to sleep in them - a lot of these players and coaches had a chance here and did not take full advantage of that opportunity - SEE YA




just my thoughts and I'm not as knowledgeable as most here

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:02 am
by SkinsJock
VetSkinsFan wrote:So ... Sherm Lewis comes in and stats get better, and he's a problem?
Sherman Smith needs to be fired as well as Zorn and let Sherm Lewis be O Coord.
Sometimes, you have to let go of the "I hate Danny," obsession and just address what needs to be addressed. Whining about Danny and blaming him for every single solitary freaking issue is well and good if you want ot whine, but he's not going anywhere. Deal with it.
What we have to do now is figure out how things will work WHILE Danny's the owner. A complaint without a solution is just whining. Be proactive and if you don't have a PLAUSIBLE solution with your whine, you'll be saying nothing new. Just annoying.


I just don't think that is a great idea

not sure if the rest was at me but I will say that I think Zorn is gone and we'll have a new HC - I would hope that HC will select who he wants as OC, not who Snyder wants, sorry, I'm not trying to be annoying - I just hope that Snyder does not continue to tell the HC who should be the OC here - if that is whining then you've got it

IMO, you're right, the play calling has "improved" - the play calling is improved from awful, this has not mean't that we have any chance of being able to score enough points to win, but what the ..... IF Snyder brought in Sherm Lewis, is he going to make the decision on who calls plays next season or is the new HC?
If Snyder and Cerrato continue to manage like this aren't you going to be a little disapointed?



are you saying that this will be okay with you and we should all stop complaining (or whining) because it "annoys" some posters here?