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Chiefs released Larry Johnson

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:55 am
by Jake
Johnson released by Chiefs

ESPN.com news services

In a tersely worded statement Monday, the Kansas City Chiefs announced that embattled running back Larry Johnson has been released.

Johnson on Sunday served a one-game suspension for making gay slurs. He was 75 yards from breaking Priest Holmes' franchise record (6,070) for career rushing yards.

The Chiefs suspended Johnson without pay through Sunday after he questioned coach Todd Haley's qualifications on his Twitter account and twice used a homosexual slur. Last Monday, Kansas City reached a settlement with Johnson, reducing the amount of pay he would lose by half, to $315,000.

The Chiefs initially cleared Johnson to return to the team's facility and participate in team activities beginning Monday. He apologized for his remarks last week, and his agent said his client had learned from the entire experience.

Last week, an online petition started by Chiefs fans asked general manager Scott Pioli to deactivate Johnson and keep him on the sideline so he could not pass Holmes' team rushing record or join the team's Ring of Honor at Arrowhead Stadium.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4637300

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:47 pm
by VetSkinsFan
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. I hope he never plays another down of NFL football.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:18 pm
by DEHog
VetSkinsFan wrote:Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. I hope he never plays another down of NFL football.


My friend from KC just texted me that same statement of course you know he'll get picked up

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:10 pm
by Irn-Bru
VetSkinsFan wrote:I hope he never plays another down of NFL football.


? Why the hostility?

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:35 pm
by Jake
Because he's a classless human being.

And maybe, just maybe he'll play another down... in D.C. this time. Just freakin' dandy.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redski ... .html#more

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:01 pm
by Irn-Bru
Jake wrote:Because he's a classless human being.

Is that based on a twitter update he wrote or a pattern of behavior? I'd never heard of of-field troubles until recently.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:07 pm
by VetSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:I hope he never plays another down of NFL football.


? Why the hostility?


He's openly racist. I think we had this discussion before, but I'll recap.

He had an interview on Inside the NFL where he said he couldn't play for a white HC the way he could play for a black HC b/c a white HC 'didn't know what a young black athlete has gone thru.' This, he stated, was the root of why he had a problem when Dick Vermiel was the HC and why he he was more productive when Herm Edwards took over. I won't support Larry Johnson in any way, shape, or form.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:10 pm
by Irn-Bru
So is it racist in principle to say that an old white man can't know what a young black athlete has gone through, or is it just something about Johnson's comments in particular that upset you?

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:13 pm
by VetSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:So is it racist in principle to say that an old white man can't know what a young black athlete has gone through, or is it just something about Johnson's comments in particular that upset you?


It's racist in principle to say that he can't work for a white coach. I would be on board if he said Vermiel was a crusty bastard and they didn't get along. But it wasn't isloated to Vermiel, it was all white coaches.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:17 pm
by Irn-Bru
VetSkinsFan wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:So is it racist in principle to say that an old white man can't know what a young black athlete has gone through, or is it just something about Johnson's comments in particular that upset you?


It's racist in principle to say that he can't work for a white coach. I would be on board if he said Vermiel was a crusty bastard and they didn't get along. But it wasn't isloated to Vermiel, it was all white coaches.


I'm not familiar with the original story, so you'll have to fill me in on some of the details. Did he say that he couldn't play for a white coach, or that he couldn't play for a white coach the same way that he could play for a black coach? That seems to be a big difference to me. If he stated something more like the latter, do you think that's racist in principle, or was there something particular about Johnson's comments that upset you?

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:27 pm
by VetSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:So is it racist in principle to say that an old white man can't know what a young black athlete has gone through, or is it just something about Johnson's comments in particular that upset you?


It's racist in principle to say that he can't work for a white coach. I would be on board if he said Vermiel was a crusty bastard and they didn't get along. But it wasn't isloated to Vermiel, it was all white coaches.


I'm not familiar with the original story, so you'll have to fill me in on some of the details. Did he say that he couldn't play for a white coach, or that he couldn't play for a white coach the same way that he could play for a black coach? That seems to be a big difference to me. If he stated something more like the latter, do you think that's racist in principle, or was there something particular about Johnson's comments that upset you?


It was probably 2 years ago, so the verbatim escapes me. The way I took it after the interview was that he couldn't play for a white coach and succeed.

Here's the clip. Cris doesn't put himself in a favorable light in this interview either IMO.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:14 pm
by CanesSkins26
Irn-Bru wrote:
Jake wrote:Because he's a classless human being.

Is that based on a twitter update he wrote or a pattern of behavior? I'd never heard of of-field troubles until recently.


Johnson is a sorry excuse of a human being. Since 2003, he has been arrested four times on various assault charges involving women. On one occasion he was arrested for waiving a gun at his then-girlfriend. Last year he was arrested for spitting in a women's face at a night club and threatening to kill her boyfriend.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:43 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Larry Johnson is the wrong player at the wrong place at the wrong time.

It is the worst possible decision this Front Office could take mainly for DIFFERENT reasons than the race issue and his personal conduct off of the field.

So, the FO will probably do it.

PS. Unfortunately, race is still a hot issue in America either way you look at it. :cry:

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:47 am
by jeremyroyce
The Chiefs are a disgrace and so is Larry Johnson. What I don't get is that with all the women Larry beat the kept him. The moment he said a gay slur which in my opinion was blown way out of proportion they release him.? Unbelievable.

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:00 am
by DEHog
jeremyroyce wrote:The Chiefs are a disgrace and so is Larry Johnson. What I don't get is that with all the women Larry beat the kept him. The moment he said a gay slur which in my opinion was blown way out of proportion they release him.? Unbelievable.

Well he's not gone because of those comments...He's gones because of the comments he made about Haley. If Haley is not qualified to be a HC after being an OC what'sd LJ going to think about Zorn??

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:00 am
by Jake
Irn-Bru wrote:
Jake wrote:Because he's a classless human being.

Is that based on a twitter update he wrote or a pattern of behavior? I'd never heard of of-field troubles until recently.


It's based off of everything he's done since his career started and an incident I know about before the Skins game that very few people know about.

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:35 am
by Irn-Bru
Jake wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
Jake wrote:Because he's a classless human being.

Is that based on a twitter update he wrote or a pattern of behavior? I'd never heard of of-field troubles until recently.


It's based off of everything he's done since his career started and an incident I know about before the Skins game that very few people know about.


Yeah, with what people have said on THN and after looking at some of his history online, I can understand the vitriol. Not a good guy.

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:18 pm
by VetSkinsFan
Come on, IB, stop making me use the online dictionary...

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:18 pm
by jeremyroyce
DEHog wrote:
jeremyroyce wrote:The Chiefs are a disgrace and so is Larry Johnson. What I don't get is that with all the women Larry beat the kept him. The moment he said a gay slur which in my opinion was blown way out of proportion they release him.? Unbelievable.

Well he's not gone because of those comments...He's gones because of the comments he made about Haley. If Haley is not qualified to be a HC after being an OC what'sd LJ going to think about Zorn??


I think then that the people reporting that then they need to make that clear. Everything that I have heard is he got released because of the gay slurs he used. But my point is that he should have been released a long time ago and what he did was a lot worse then what he said

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:03 am
by Irn-Bru
VetSkinsFan wrote:Come on, IB, stop making me use the online dictionary...


The trick is to use it often but to pretend that you don't. I can be anybody online; impersonating someone who knows what they are talking about is my specialty, in fact! :lol: