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Remember I said Player, so don't give me coaches or the 2 headed numbskull (owner, sidekick)

There are many players who I think needs to shut up and STEP UP. Sellers, Portis among others.

But the ONE guy that irks me the most is 22 Carloser. His statement of "taking a break from football" just KILLS me. Hey LOS, you can rest when you're dead.....but right now, go out there and play. Cover and stick someone. Pick off a few for 6 pts. Go play ball and just SHUT UP...ok

Furthermore, you talk like you've got marbles in your mouth. Get some "hooked on phonics" or something. Please learn to pronounce and ennunciate your word, doggoneit..........

You mr. man......take the cake! You irritate me!

I've said this from day one.

Rock Cartwright.

For some reason, and most likely the fact that I KNOW he will never return one back I just don't like him. He's just not good. However he's the typical kind of player fans love, the hard working not so good player that has heart and soul.

That is exactly what our team has become. A bunch of talentless fan favorites.

tribeofjudah wrote:Remember I said Player, so don't give me coaches or the 2 headed numbskull (owner, sidekick)

There are many players who I think needs to shut up and STEP UP. Sellers, Portis among others.

But the ONE guy that irks me the most is 22 Carloser. His statement of "taking a break from football" just KILLS me. Hey LOS, you can rest when you're dead.....but right now, go out there and play. Cover and stick someone. Pick off a few for 6 pts. Go play ball and just SHUT UP...ok

Furthermore, you talk like you've got marbles in your mouth. Get some "hooked on phonics" or something. Please learn to pronounce and ennunciate your word, doggoneit..........

You mr. man......take the cake! You irritate me!

I hate to argue with you because yes Carlos isnt the best, but I think he's far from the problem. That play he got burned on (i'm talking about the second one, not his sorry attempt the first time Deshaun burnt us) was not his fault. That was a result of this stupid zone we keep playing, and they capitalized. I blame that more on Horton for not seeing Deshaun slip back there.

Toss up between ARE and Laron Landry.

Cartright always gets the ball to the twenty at least and beyond. He also takes care of the ball. So while he is rarely a game breaker he does his job.
So why the hate for the guy? It is not like he is in the game very much. He virtually has no effect on the game other then on special teams. He does his job. So unwarranted hate for him is senseless.

"He virtually has no effect on the game"

"He gets the ball to the 20..."

I don't hate the guy, I just don't like seeing him returning kicks. I know each and everytime we have no chance at making it past the 50. For this team, on kickoffs, they should have the fastest guy back there to give our offense every yard imaginable, so getting to the 20 is not doing his job.

Carlos Rogers and DeAngelo Hall are two elite corners. They are not the problem.

In fact, none of the players are really the problem. It's the man who assembled this awful team.

Laron Landry hands down for me. All offseason he is a no show when you got all the other guys here. I think well, if he is getting work done over there then fine. Then he comes and plays in a game and you dont hear his name called one time. The only time you see him when he trying lay someone out while missing a tackle. There is no presence, QBs dont find him on the field before running a play.

Now he is still young and could turn it around, but he has a good reputation around the league for some reason and we are not competing anyttime soon seeing we have so many holes....I would try to trade him for a good young OL or a 2nd rounder

Daniel Snyder. He is the most important member of this team. What?

You do not think so? Just ask him!

He is EVERYTHING: best owner, best GM, HC, and best player, all wrapped up into one.

Skinsfan55 wrote:Carlos Rogers and DeAngelo Hall are two elite corners. They are not the problem.

In fact, none of the players are really the problem. It's the man who assembled this awful team.

This is as contradictory a statement as I've seen in a while on here. Everyone seems to think we have all these "elite" plyaers, yet you blame the guy who put the team together. I am by no means suopporting Vinny Cerrato, but I think its time to look long and hard at some of the guys we got on this team and the effort they are putting forth. First and foremost, I would love if we unloaded LL in the offseason. The guy is the most over-rated player I've seen in a long time. He consistantly takes terrible angles on running plays as proved again Mon. night on the reverse, and when was the last time he actually made a big play? I'd rather go with Doughty & Horton. Hall is another loser who needs to go. That guy hasn't tackled anyone since he's come into the league, and last time I checked, tackling was important. Let me see Barnes or Tryon out there. ARE is another who needs to hit the road. He is an absolutley terrible punt returner, and he never looks to run after the catch anymore......start playing the younger guys as this season is obviously beyond repair.

Betts. No explaination needed

Skinsfan55 wrote:Carlos Rogers and DeAngelo Hall are two elite corners. They are not the problem.

In fact, none of the players are really the problem. It's the man who assembled this awful team.

Dude, look at the title of the thread.........Who IRKS you on this roster?

Someone has to get under your skins and irritates the crap out of you....a player?

skins2357 wrote:Laron Landry hands down for me. All offseason he is a no show when you got all the other guys here. I think well, if he is getting work done over there then fine. Then he comes and plays in a game and you dont hear his name called one time. The only time you see him when he trying lay someone out while missing a tackle. There is no presence, QBs dont find him on the field before running a play.

Now he is still young and could turn it around, but he has a good reputation around the league for some reason and we are not competing anyttime soon seeing we have so many holes....I would try to trade him for a good young OL or a 2nd rounder

Great, so LL can go somewhere else and shine. Just many others have done.

PAPDOG67 wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:Carlos Rogers and DeAngelo Hall are two elite corners. They are not the problem.

In fact, none of the players are really the problem. It's the man who assembled this awful team.

This is as contradictory a statement as I've seen in a while on here. Everyone seems to think we have all these "elite" plyaers, yet you blame the guy who put the team together. I am by no means suopporting Vinny Cerrato, but I think its time to look long and hard at some of the guys we got on this team and the effort they are putting forth. First and foremost, I would love if we unloaded LL in the offseason. The guy is the most over-rated player I've seen in a long time. He consistantly takes terrible angles on running plays as proved again Mon. night on the reverse, and when was the last time he actually made a big play? I'd rather go with Doughty & Horton. Hall is another loser who needs to go. That guy hasn't tackled anyone since he's come into the league, and last time I checked, tackling was important. Let me see Barnes or Tryon out there. ARE is another who needs to hit the road. He is an absolutley terrible punt returner, and he never looks to run after the catch anymore......start playing the younger guys as this season is obviously beyond repair.

Tell us how you really feel, papadog......but yezzzz, I agree wid dat

Landry
JC
Carlos

sTEPHON hEYER.

oh yea, ARE also

Yea Heyer sucks, but the way I look at it is he knows he shouldnt be there doing whatg he is and he is trying. He was a UNDRAFTED FA 3 yrs ago from MD and is now a starting LT in the NFC East. He should not be forced to play LT but when you have Cerrato you have no option. The reason he does not irk me as much (even though he does suck) is because he was not even drafted. Everyone (but Cerrato) knows he is a backup

Landry was a high 1st rounder with a ton of talent....but still sucks. Thats what irks me....guys with all the talent in the world who play their football, not the teams

To me the word "Irk" means has the ability and just screws up at times.. JC behind our OL just sux.. I voted for ARE.. I mean really, how many times has the brutha caught the ball and ran horizontal.. THAT in itself irks the living snot outta me.. so much in fact I bring my own kleenex to the game!!!

Definitely Heyer, its not really his fault though. If some idiot came up to me and said they would pay me lots of money to play in the NFL, I would have done the same thing he did.

brad7686 wrote:Definitely Heyer, its not really his fault though. If some idiot came up to me and said they would pay me lots of money to play in the NFL, I would have done the same thing he did.

Good Point B!

Heyer - He consistently get's beat and his player's stat's are huge. The offense never seems to get going when he's on the field which is every offensive play.

Laron Landry. He has become overrated. He has just failed to live up to his potential and hype. He constantly misses tackles and takes bad angles, and never makes up for it with a big play like someone like Ed Reed would. He is actually frustrating to watch.

And why such hate for Rock? Name a player on this team that played as hard as him on Monday night. You can't. Maybe he doesn't have the ability to return kicks all the way, but he does usually give us pretty good field position. I think it is time to stop blaming Rock for not returning kicks all the way. Blame the coaches who put him back there if you don't like him returning. He just goes out there and returns to the best of his ability when the coaches tell him to return kicks. Its the coaches decision to put him back there, not his. Just like ARE, I'm not mad at him anymore b/c he has proven that he cannot return punts but for some reason the coaches keep putting him back there. I know he fumbled and he always runs horizontally (which does irk me), and that is all on him, but he should have never been back there in the first place.

MDSKINSFAN wrote:Laron Landry. He has become overrated. He has just failed to live up to his potential and hype. He constantly misses tackles and takes bad angles, and never makes up for it with a big play like someone like Ed Reed would. He is actually frustrating to watch.

And why such hate for Rock? Name a player on this team that played as hard as him on Monday night. You can't. Maybe he doesn't have the ability to return kicks all the way, but he does usually give us pretty good field position. I think it is time to stop blaming Rock for not returning kicks all the way. Blame the coaches who put him back there if you don't like him returning. He just goes out there and returns to the best of his ability when the coaches tell him to return kicks. Its the coaches decision to put him back there, not his. Just like ARE, I'm not mad at him anymore b/c he has proven that he cannot return punts but for some reason the coaches keep putting him back there. I know he fumbled and he always runs horizontally (which does irk me), and that is all on him, but he should have never been back there in the first place.

Right, Rock showed up big time for that game.

i don't know why you guys are mad at laron, he is playing out of position he should be a ss not a fs. Thats vinny's fault for not going out and getting a fs so that laron could move back. And heyer shouldn't be playing at all so i blame vinny for that one too.

Randel El is gets paid like a number 1 and isnt more than a number 3. He also can't return punts anymore