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markshark84 wrote:http://voices.washingtonpost.com/red...e-coaches.html

The hiring of offensive consultant Sherman Lewis is not an indication that Coach Jim Zorn and his offensive staff have performed poorly, quarterback Jason Campbell said today.

"I don't think so. Not at all," he said. "I think Coach Zorn and all our coaches have done a good job, we just haven't done the things we need to and execute the way we're capable of as a team. I mean, it's not the coaches.

"Coach Zorn puts us in the right position to be successful, but we don't do what we're supposed to do all the time and that's on us. You can look at the film and see where the mistakes are made. That's not on them."

A longtime assistant in West Coast offenses, Lewis is expected to provide "a fresh set of eyes," Campbell said. "I don't think that has to be a bad thing. As long as everyone understands what their roles are, I think it could help.

"Coach Zorn still calls the plays, coach Sherman Smith is the offensive coordinator. We believe in what our coaches are doing. That hasn't changed."

The Redskins are 27th in the league in scoring with an average of 14 points.

"It's not the plays and it's not what our coaches are doing," Campbell said. "Again, we see the mistakes on film. We just need to execute better."
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Did anyone hear the word "I" in those statements. This is a perfect example of his blatent inabilty to be a team leader. Leaders take accountability for the actions that take place on the field. It is apparent that JC is unwilling to step up and take any sort of accountability for the feeble offense he runs.

Under JC and his 40 NFL starts, he has only won one game by more than one TD and only has 2 games where the team has scored over 30 points. Both of these stats are NFL RECORDS. I think it is time for JC to articulate the obvious and make himself accountable for the lack of scoring that has been widespread since his arrival.

markshark84 wrote:Did anyone hear the word "I" in those statements.

VetSkinsFan wrote:It's a team sport. Yes, he shoulders some responsibility, but last time I checked, it's not JC missing blocks to allow D lineman in to collapse the pocket. It's not JC that doesn't fight for a jump ball. There's enough non-execution for blame to be passed around and I don't see where JC should be shouldering all the blame.

"I don't think that has to be a bad thing. As long as everyone understands what their roles are, I think it could help.

markshark84 wrote:Did anyone hear the word "I" in those statements.

This is a perfect example of his blatent inabilty to be a team leader. Leaders take accountability for the actions that take place on the field. It is apparent that JC is unwilling to step up and take any sort of accountability for the feeble offense he runs.

frankcal20 wrote:Look. You can't call out your players on TV.

frankcal20 wrote:Look. You can't call out your players on TV. If you do, that is only going to cause all types of trouble (see T.O.) in the locker room. I'm sure he is talking to guys in the huddle, on the sidelines, in practice and film study. I don't think he needs to go public and put the player on blast in the media. That's no way to be a leader in any organization. I would hate to have a company meeting and my manager say out loud that I am not pulling my weight in front of everyone, and I would imagine that we all would too.

Snout wrote:

markshark84 wrote:Did anyone hear the word "I" in those statements.

Of course not. According to the conventional wisdom these days:

It's Danny's fault.
It's Vinnie's fault.
It's Campbell's fault.
It's Zorn's fault.
It's the line's fault.
It's the receivers' fault.
It's Portis's fault.

In that order. So many people are to blame, maybe we should start identifying the people who aren't at fault. The only one who gets a pass on the offensive side seems to be ey.

frankcal20 wrote:Most of us watch the game on TV. So the camera's are on the field. I have heard on the Sports Reporters say that JC has had team huddles with the WR's on the sideline and things have gotten testy in the past. The camera's have not caught it. Usually, when JC comes off the field, he has to go talk to JZ which if there is a bit of frustration acts as a buffer and probably puts him in a less frustrated mindframe.

We at home don't have a buffer at home. I've tried to find one in Jack Daniels, Cold Coors Lights, and the occasional Red Strip or Newcastle. It hasn't worked to well for me.

mastdark81 wrote:

Snout wrote:

markshark84 wrote:Did anyone hear the word "I" in those statements.

Of course not. According to the conventional wisdom these days:

It's Danny's fault.
It's Vinnie's fault.
It's Campbell's fault.
It's Zorn's fault.
It's the line's fault.
It's the receivers' fault.
It's Portis's fault.

In that order. So many people are to blame, maybe we should start identifying the people who aren't at fault. The only one who gets a pass on the offensive side seems to be ey.

Nope!! Not so fast, when ey improves on his blocking then he'll get a pass. He seems to take plays off on run downs to get enough energy on the passing plays. Been doing this since day one. He's beat 50% of the time. We dont' have a pure blocking te on the team. Should at least have one.

Once again, this town is in a funk about its football team. Four games into the season, and already the Bills are diving headfirst into the dumpster.

It matters. In a small city with few connections to the big time, the Bills are more than a football team. Their success or failure colors the communal mood. There was a sense of gloom in the air Monday morning, as many folks returned to work with sagging shoulders after Sunday’s 38-10 rout at Miami.

I hated to see it. We have enough to get depressed about around here without having a lousy football team.

Buffalo has had just one winning season since 1999, prompting fans’ invariable complaints about various coaches and players. It is like saying the problem with General Motors was bad cars. No. Bad cars were simply the byproduct of bad ownership and poor management (“Ladies and gentlemen, the Chevy Vega!”).

So, too, with the Bills. The faces change, the results stay the same. The chronic mediocrity is compelling evidence that the Buffalo team’s core problem is its ownership and management. The management structure, put in place by 91-year-old owner Ralph Wilson, consistently misjudges talent, fails to spend wisely on personnel and does not hire capable coaches to direct players and create innovative strategies.

In Corporate America or in the NFL, management counts.

“Management is the elixir that produces consistent results over time,” said Tony Ogorek. “[Successful] corporations tend to be managed by deep teams of people who . . . understand what is happening in the marketplace and constantly innovate.”

Ogorek is an Amherst-based financial adviser. He evaluates corporations for their investment-worthiness. A prime consideration is quality of management. That is why I called him. The Bills’ lengthy mediocrity is ultimately not a failure of individual players and coaches, but a consequence of flawed management.

Despite a salary cap and shared revenue that largely level the playing field among 32 NFL teams, Buffalo has not made the playoffs in nine seasons. It has not won a playoff game since Bill Clinton’s first term. It has, in corporate terminology, consistently underperformed.

“Other teams obviously are doing a better job of allocating capital to the right people and in replenishing the talent pool,” Ogorek said.

It is no coincidence that the Bills’ last stretch of success, from the late 1980s through the late 1990s, coincided largely with the tenure of talented CEO—er, general manager—Bill Polian and his people. It is no accident that Polian has since built successful teams –and management structures—in Carolina and, currently, Indianapolis.

Ogorek cited the corporate analogy of the Big Three automakers. Bill Ford saw the tsunami coming, brought in innovative managers and survived.

“Ford . . . redid its entire car line. GM and Chrysler didn’t,” Ogorek said. “Rick Wagoner [at GM] oversaw perhaps the greatest destruction of capital in American history. The difference? Ownership and management.”

The Bills consistently bring in big-bucks free agents who disappoint and high draft picks who do not produce. They fail to pay premium value for exceptional players, who then leave the company—er, team. They habitually acquire marquee names who are on the downside of their careers.

Master investor Warren Buffett “calls it ‘buying a company with only a couple of puffs left on the cigar,’ ” Ogorek said. “It is not a good long-term investment.”

The faces change; the story stays the same.

Welcome to the Bills, the General Motors of the NFL. With no government bailout in sight.

DEHog wrote:Article from the Buffalo news...replace Bills with Redskins

Once again, this town is in a funk about its football team. Four games into the season, and already the Bills are diving headfirst into the dumpster.

It matters. In a small city with few connections to the big time, the Bills are more than a football team. Their success or failure colors the communal mood. There was a sense of gloom in the air Monday morning, as many folks returned to work with sagging shoulders after Sunday’s 38-10 rout at Miami.

I hated to see it. We have enough to get depressed about around here without having a lousy football team.

Buffalo has had just one winning season since 1999, prompting fans’ invariable complaints about various coaches and players. It is like saying the problem with General Motors was bad cars. No. Bad cars were simply the byproduct of bad ownership and poor management (“Ladies and gentlemen, the Chevy Vega!”).

So, too, with the Bills. The faces change, the results stay the same. The chronic mediocrity is compelling evidence that the Buffalo team’s core problem is its ownership and management. The management structure, put in place by 91-year-old owner Ralph Wilson, consistently misjudges talent, fails to spend wisely on personnel and does not hire capable coaches to direct players and create innovative strategies.

In Corporate America or in the NFL, management counts.

“Management is the elixir that produces consistent results over time,” said Tony Ogorek. “[Successful] corporations tend to be managed by deep teams of people who . . . understand what is happening in the marketplace and constantly innovate.”

Ogorek is an Amherst-based financial adviser. He evaluates corporations for their investment-worthiness. A prime consideration is quality of management. That is why I called him. The Bills’ lengthy mediocrity is ultimately not a failure of individual players and coaches, but a consequence of flawed management.

Despite a salary cap and shared revenue that largely level the playing field among 32 NFL teams, Buffalo has not made the playoffs in nine seasons. It has not won a playoff game since Bill Clinton’s first term. It has, in corporate terminology, consistently underperformed.

“Other teams obviously are doing a better job of allocating capital to the right people and in replenishing the talent pool,” Ogorek said.

It is no coincidence that the Bills’ last stretch of success, from the late 1980s through the late 1990s, coincided largely with the tenure of talented CEO—er, general manager—Bill Polian and his people. It is no accident that Polian has since built successful teams –and management structures—in Carolina and, currently, Indianapolis.

Ogorek cited the corporate analogy of the Big Three automakers. Bill Ford saw the tsunami coming, brought in innovative managers and survived.

“Ford . . . redid its entire car line. GM and Chrysler didn’t,” Ogorek said. “Rick Wagoner [at GM] oversaw perhaps the greatest destruction of capital in American history. The difference? Ownership and management.”

The Bills consistently bring in big-bucks free agents who disappoint and high draft picks who do not produce. They fail to pay premium value for exceptional players, who then leave the company—er, team. They habitually acquire marquee names who are on the downside of their careers.

Master investor Warren Buffett “calls it ‘buying a company with only a couple of puffs left on the cigar,’ ” Ogorek said. “It is not a good long-term investment.”

The faces change; the story stays the same.

Welcome to the Bills, the General Motors of the NFL. With no government bailout in sight.

VetSkinsFan wrote:

mastdark81 wrote:

Snout wrote:

markshark84 wrote:Did anyone hear the word "I" in those statements.

Of course not. According to the conventional wisdom these days:

It's Danny's fault.
It's Vinnie's fault.
It's Campbell's fault.
It's Zorn's fault.
It's the line's fault.
It's the receivers' fault.
It's Portis's fault.

In that order. So many people are to blame, maybe we should start identifying the people who aren't at fault. The only one who gets a pass on the offensive side seems to be ey.

Nope!! Not so fast, when ey improves on his blocking then he'll get a pass. He seems to take plays off on run downs to get enough energy on the passing plays. Been doing this since day one. He's beat 50% of the time. We dont' have a pure blocking te on the team. Should at least have one.

This has got to be in the top 10 stupidest things posted here. I guess a TE who's capable of leading your team in receptions and setting club records is expected to be a freakin superior blocking TE as well? Wow...what a well thought out post.....

VetSkinsFan wrote:

DEHog wrote:Article from the Buffalo news...replace Bills with Redskins

Once again, this town is in a funk about its football team. Four games into the season, and already the Bills are diving headfirst into the dumpster.

It matters. In a small city with few connections to the big time, the Bills are more than a football team. Their success or failure colors the communal mood. There was a sense of gloom in the air Monday morning, as many folks returned to work with sagging shoulders after Sunday’s 38-10 rout at Miami.

I hated to see it. We have enough to get depressed about around here without having a lousy football team.

Buffalo has had just one winning season since 1999, prompting fans’ invariable complaints about various coaches and players. It is like saying the problem with General Motors was bad cars. No. Bad cars were simply the byproduct of bad ownership and poor management (“Ladies and gentlemen, the Chevy Vega!”).

So, too, with the Bills. The faces change, the results stay the same. The chronic mediocrity is compelling evidence that the Buffalo team’s core problem is its ownership and management. The management structure, put in place by 91-year-old owner Ralph Wilson, consistently misjudges talent, fails to spend wisely on personnel and does not hire capable coaches to direct players and create innovative strategies.

In Corporate America or in the NFL, management counts.

“Management is the elixir that produces consistent results over time,” said Tony Ogorek. “[Successful] corporations tend to be managed by deep teams of people who . . . understand what is happening in the marketplace and constantly innovate.”

Ogorek is an Amherst-based financial adviser. He evaluates corporations for their investment-worthiness. A prime consideration is quality of management. That is why I called him. The Bills’ lengthy mediocrity is ultimately not a failure of individual players and coaches, but a consequence of flawed management.

Despite a salary cap and shared revenue that largely level the playing field among 32 NFL teams, Buffalo has not made the playoffs in nine seasons. It has not won a playoff game since Bill Clinton’s first term. It has, in corporate terminology, consistently underperformed.

“Other teams obviously are doing a better job of allocating capital to the right people and in replenishing the talent pool,” Ogorek said.

It is no coincidence that the Bills’ last stretch of success, from the late 1980s through the late 1990s, coincided largely with the tenure of talented CEO—er, general manager—Bill Polian and his people. It is no accident that Polian has since built successful teams –and management structures—in Carolina and, currently, Indianapolis.

Ogorek cited the corporate analogy of the Big Three automakers. Bill Ford saw the tsunami coming, brought in innovative managers and survived.

“Ford . . . redid its entire car line. GM and Chrysler didn’t,” Ogorek said. “Rick Wagoner [at GM] oversaw perhaps the greatest destruction of capital in American history. The difference? Ownership and management.”

The Bills consistently bring in big-bucks free agents who disappoint and high draft picks who do not produce. They fail to pay premium value for exceptional players, who then leave the company—er, team. They habitually acquire marquee names who are on the downside of their careers.

Master investor Warren Buffett “calls it ‘buying a company with only a couple of puffs left on the cigar,’ ” Ogorek said. “It is not a good long-term investment.”

The faces change; the story stays the same.

Welcome to the Bills, the General Motors of the NFL. With no government bailout in sight.

Little harsh on the skins aren't ya?

brad7686 wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

mastdark81 wrote:

Snout wrote:

markshark84 wrote:Did anyone hear the word "I" in those statements.

Of course not. According to the conventional wisdom these days:

It's Danny's fault.
It's Vinnie's fault.
It's Campbell's fault.
It's Zorn's fault.
It's the line's fault.
It's the receivers' fault.
It's Portis's fault.

In that order. So many people are to blame, maybe we should start identifying the people who aren't at fault. The only one who gets a pass on the offensive side seems to be ey.

Nope!! Not so fast, when ey improves on his blocking then he'll get a pass. He seems to take plays off on run downs to get enough energy on the passing plays. Been doing this since day one. He's beat 50% of the time. We dont' have a pure blocking te on the team. Should at least have one.

This has got to be in the top 10 stupidest things posted here. I guess a TE who's capable of leading your team in receptions and setting club records is expected to be a freakin superior blocking TE as well? Wow...what a well thought out post.....

He's less at fault than most but he can't block for crap. Watch the steelers game from last year.

DEHog wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

DEHog wrote:Article from the Buffalo news...replace Bills with Redskins

Once again, this town is in a funk about its football team. Four games into the season, and already the Bills are diving headfirst into the dumpster.

It matters. In a small city with few connections to the big time, the Bills are more than a football team. Their success or failure colors the communal mood. There was a sense of gloom in the air Monday morning, as many folks returned to work with sagging shoulders after Sunday’s 38-10 rout at Miami.

I hated to see it. We have enough to get depressed about around here without having a lousy football team.

Buffalo has had just one winning season since 1999, prompting fans’ invariable complaints about various coaches and players. It is like saying the problem with General Motors was bad cars. No. Bad cars were simply the byproduct of bad ownership and poor management (“Ladies and gentlemen, the Chevy Vega!”).

So, too, with the Bills. The faces change, the results stay the same. The chronic mediocrity is compelling evidence that the Buffalo team’s core problem is its ownership and management. The management structure, put in place by 91-year-old owner Ralph Wilson, consistently misjudges talent, fails to spend wisely on personnel and does not hire capable coaches to direct players and create innovative strategies.

In Corporate America or in the NFL, management counts.

“Management is the elixir that produces consistent results over time,” said Tony Ogorek. “[Successful] corporations tend to be managed by deep teams of people who . . . understand what is happening in the marketplace and constantly innovate.”

Ogorek is an Amherst-based financial adviser. He evaluates corporations for their investment-worthiness. A prime consideration is quality of management. That is why I called him. The Bills’ lengthy mediocrity is ultimately not a failure of individual players and coaches, but a consequence of flawed management.

Despite a salary cap and shared revenue that largely level the playing field among 32 NFL teams, Buffalo has not made the playoffs in nine seasons. It has not won a playoff game since Bill Clinton’s first term. It has, in corporate terminology, consistently underperformed.

“Other teams obviously are doing a better job of allocating capital to the right people and in replenishing the talent pool,” Ogorek said.

It is no coincidence that the Bills’ last stretch of success, from the late 1980s through the late 1990s, coincided largely with the tenure of talented CEO—er, general manager—Bill Polian and his people. It is no accident that Polian has since built successful teams –and management structures—in Carolina and, currently, Indianapolis.

Ogorek cited the corporate analogy of the Big Three automakers. Bill Ford saw the tsunami coming, brought in innovative managers and survived.

“Ford . . . redid its entire car line. GM and Chrysler didn’t,” Ogorek said. “Rick Wagoner [at GM] oversaw perhaps the greatest destruction of capital in American history. The difference? Ownership and management.”

The Bills consistently bring in big-bucks free agents who disappoint and high draft picks who do not produce. They fail to pay premium value for exceptional players, who then leave the company—er, team. They habitually acquire marquee names who are on the downside of their careers.

Master investor Warren Buffett “calls it ‘buying a company with only a couple of puffs left on the cigar,’ ” Ogorek said. “It is not a good long-term investment.”

The faces change; the story stays the same.

Welcome to the Bills, the General Motors of the NFL. With no government bailout in sight.

Little harsh on the skins aren't ya?

No harder than you are you Jason

VetSkinsFan wrote:

DEHog wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

DEHog wrote:Article from the Buffalo news...replace Bills with Redskins

Once again, this town is in a funk about its football team. Four games into the season, and already the Bills are diving headfirst into the dumpster.

It matters. In a small city with few connections to the big time, the Bills are more than a football team. Their success or failure colors the communal mood. There was a sense of gloom in the air Monday morning, as many folks returned to work with sagging shoulders after Sunday’s 38-10 rout at Miami.

I hated to see it. We have enough to get depressed about around here without having a lousy football team.

Buffalo has had just one winning season since 1999, prompting fans’ invariable complaints about various coaches and players. It is like saying the problem with General Motors was bad cars. No. Bad cars were simply the byproduct of bad ownership and poor management (“Ladies and gentlemen, the Chevy Vega!”).

So, too, with the Bills. The faces change, the results stay the same. The chronic mediocrity is compelling evidence that the Buffalo team’s core problem is its ownership and management. The management structure, put in place by 91-year-old owner Ralph Wilson, consistently misjudges talent, fails to spend wisely on personnel and does not hire capable coaches to direct players and create innovative strategies.

In Corporate America or in the NFL, management counts.

“Management is the elixir that produces consistent results over time,” said Tony Ogorek. “[Successful] corporations tend to be managed by deep teams of people who . . . understand what is happening in the marketplace and constantly innovate.”

Ogorek is an Amherst-based financial adviser. He evaluates corporations for their investment-worthiness. A prime consideration is quality of management. That is why I called him. The Bills’ lengthy mediocrity is ultimately not a failure of individual players and coaches, but a consequence of flawed management.

Despite a salary cap and shared revenue that largely level the playing field among 32 NFL teams, Buffalo has not made the playoffs in nine seasons. It has not won a playoff game since Bill Clinton’s first term. It has, in corporate terminology, consistently underperformed.

“Other teams obviously are doing a better job of allocating capital to the right people and in replenishing the talent pool,” Ogorek said.

It is no coincidence that the Bills’ last stretch of success, from the late 1980s through the late 1990s, coincided largely with the tenure of talented CEO—er, general manager—Bill Polian and his people. It is no accident that Polian has since built successful teams –and management structures—in Carolina and, currently, Indianapolis.

Ogorek cited the corporate analogy of the Big Three automakers. Bill Ford saw the tsunami coming, brought in innovative managers and survived.

“Ford . . . redid its entire car line. GM and Chrysler didn’t,” Ogorek said. “Rick Wagoner [at GM] oversaw perhaps the greatest destruction of capital in American history. The difference? Ownership and management.”

The Bills consistently bring in big-bucks free agents who disappoint and high draft picks who do not produce. They fail to pay premium value for exceptional players, who then leave the company—er, team. They habitually acquire marquee names who are on the downside of their careers.

Master investor Warren Buffett “calls it ‘buying a company with only a couple of puffs left on the cigar,’ ” Ogorek said. “It is not a good long-term investment.”

The faces change; the story stays the same.

Welcome to the Bills, the General Motors of the NFL. With no government bailout in sight.

Little harsh on the skins aren't ya?

No harder than you are you Jason

I've actually been one of the bigger JC supporters here. I may have irrational fits of frustration, but I still think JC's a average or better QB, he's just in the completely WRONG system for his skills.