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I dont want to here my fellow Redskins fans blame Campbell anymore. He is what he is and that is a mediocore QB that is steadily improving and has a lot of potential. Zorns play calling is so predictable and our qb is held hostage in this offense. We finally have size at the wr position and yet when we do reach the redzone they are not utilizing our talent. Marko Mitchell and Malcom are both capable of dominating smaller corners on a fade route. Campbell is more than capable of running a playaction bootleg and giving himself 3 options of either running it in, hitting a tight end or back in the flats or throwing it away. Campbell is also capable of running a qb draw from a spread offense. Once again we refuse to even catch the defense off guard. The bottom line is that Zorn is not giving us the best opportunity to win each and every week. He plays scared and our opponents know it. Our o line is weakest unit on our team and yet we try to line up against a defense that stacks the left side and we run right at them.

I loved it all, with the lone exception being the very first sentence.

skins#1fan wrote:I dont want to here my fellow Redskins fans blame Campbell anymore. He is what he is and that is a mediocore QB that is steadily improving and has a lot of potential. Zorns play calling is so predictable and our qb is held hostage in this offense. We finally have size at the wr position and yet when we do reach the redzone they are not utilizing our talent. Marko Mitchell and Malcom are both capable of dominating smaller corners on a fade route. Campbell is more than capable of running a playaction bootleg and giving himself 3 options of either running it in, hitting a tight end or back in the flats or throwing it away. Campbell is also capable of running a qb draw from a spread offense. Once again we refuse to even catch the defense off guard. The bottom line is that Zorn is not giving us the best opportunity to win each and every week. He plays scared and our opponents know it. Our o line is weakest unit on our team and yet we try to line up against a defense that stacks the left side and we run right at them.

Thank you for a reasonable post. I'm no big Campbell fan, yet am disgusted that he is taking the blame from so many after playing a fine game. The problem is Zorn. It was obviously the almost unanimous opinion of the fans at the game.

I am also disgusted that some on this site fail to realize that most of his overthrows on bombs, as well as his out of bounds throws, occur when receivers are covered and he's just unloading the ball without the danger of interception. He did the same thing at Auburn.

I am also disgusted with the dinks and dunks theory. Campbell is very effective at mid-range and proved that against the Rams. He did not dink and dunk. In fact, he's not very good at dinking and dunking.

Disgusting me even further are the experts on this site who can't see the the obvious. Moss and ARE do not get open for Campbell to throw to long. Moss is a pale shadow of what he was. Campbell has to bail almost every time Moss goes long. We'll have to wait until Zorn puts Marko and Kelly on his throw long to list before we find out whether or not Campbell can do it.

We won't see how well Campbell can play until Zorn wises up or is gone. Right now, he's the worse playcaller I've ever seen on the Redskin sideline, as well as the worse evaluator of personnel. Our OL is simply not up to establishing a running game, in the red zone or anywhere else.

Yards we gain on the ground occur almost exclusively in the last quarter when defenses are worn out from rushing Campbell. They are gifts from the passing game, which is effective, and Zorn deserts as soon as he can think of an excuse to do it.

For ey to have a truly big day, Zorn with have a have a stroke at half time. Otherwise, ey will have to lead the league in receptions with first half catches. Zorn apparently gets nervous when ey's reception total reaches six or seven, after which Zorn deliberately suppresses ey's receptions. Apparently, coach wants to keep secret the fact that we have the best tight end in football.

crazyhorse1 wrote:

skins#1fan wrote:I dont want to here my fellow Redskins fans blame Campbell anymore. He is what he is and that is a mediocore QB that is steadily improving and has a lot of potential. Zorns play calling is so predictable and our qb is held hostage in this offense. We finally have size at the wr position and yet when we do reach the redzone they are not utilizing our talent. Marko Mitchell and Malcom are both capable of dominating smaller corners on a fade route. Campbell is more than capable of running a playaction bootleg and giving himself 3 options of either running it in, hitting a tight end or back in the flats or throwing it away. Campbell is also capable of running a qb draw from a spread offense. Once again we refuse to even catch the defense off guard. The bottom line is that Zorn is not giving us the best opportunity to win each and every week. He plays scared and our opponents know it. Our o line is weakest unit on our team and yet we try to line up against a defense that stacks the left side and we run right at them.

Thank you for a reasonable post. I'm no big Campbell fan, yet am disgusted that he is taking the blame from so many after playing a fine game. The problem is Zorn. It was obviously the almost unanimous opinion of the fans at the game.

I am also disgusted that some on this site fail to realize that most of his overthrows on bombs, as well as his out of bounds throws, occur when receivers are covered and he's just unloading the ball without the danger of interception. He did the same thing at Auburn.

I am also disgusted with the dinks and dunks theory. Campbell is very effective at mid-range and proved that against the Rams. He did not dink and dunk. In fact, he's not very good at dinking and dunking.

Disgusting me even further are the experts on this site who can't see the the obvious. Moss and ARE do not get open for Campbell to throw to long. Moss is a pale shadow of what he was. Campbell has to bail almost every time Moss goes long. We'll have to wait until Zorn puts Marko and Kelly on his throw long to list before we find out whether or not Campbell can do it.

We won't see how well Campbell can play until Zorn wises up or is gone. Right now, he's the worse playcaller I've ever seen on the Redskin sideline, as well as the worse evaluator of personnel. Our OL is simply not up to establishing a running game, in the red zone or anywhere else.

Yards we gain on the ground occur almost exclusively in the last quarter when defenses are worn out from rushing Campbell. They are gifts from the passing game, which is effective, and Zorn deserts as soon as he can think of an excuse to do it.

For ey to have a truly big day, Zorn with have a have a stroke at half time. Otherwise, ey will have to lead the league in receptions with first half catches. Zorn apparently gets nervous when ey's reception total reaches six or seven, after which Zorn deliberately suppresses ey's receptions. Apparently, coach wants to keep secret the fact that we have the best tight end in football.

He may overthrow passes to avoid an interception, however he does miss wide open passes alot when there are open receivers! Campbell impressed me against the Rams with his quicker decision making! I also agree that Zorn is the major problem, and that Campbell takes some heat that is not always deserved.

crazyhorse1 wrote:

skins#1fan wrote:I dont want to here my fellow Redskins fans blame Campbell anymore. He is what he is and that is a mediocore QB that is steadily improving and has a lot of potential. Zorns play calling is so predictable and our qb is held hostage in this offense. We finally have size at the wr position and yet when we do reach the redzone they are not utilizing our talent. Marko Mitchell and Malcom are both capable of dominating smaller corners on a fade route. Campbell is more than capable of running a playaction bootleg and giving himself 3 options of either running it in, hitting a tight end or back in the flats or throwing it away. Campbell is also capable of running a qb draw from a spread offense. Once again we refuse to even catch the defense off guard. The bottom line is that Zorn is not giving us the best opportunity to win each and every week. He plays scared and our opponents know it. Our o line is weakest unit on our team and yet we try to line up against a defense that stacks the left side and we run right at them.

Thank you for a reasonable post. I'm no big Campbell fan, yet am disgusted that he is taking the blame from so many after playing a fine game. The problem is Zorn. It was obviously the almost unanimous opinion of the fans at the game.

I am also disgusted that some on this site fail to realize that most of his overthrows on bombs, as well as his out of bounds throws, occur when receivers are covered and he's just unloading the ball without the danger of interception. He did the same thing at Auburn.

I am also disgusted with the dinks and dunks theory. Campbell is very effective at mid-range and proved that against the Rams. He did not dink and dunk. In fact, he's not very good at dinking and dunking.

Disgusting me even further are the experts on this site who can't see the the obvious. Moss and ARE do not get open for Campbell to throw to long. Moss is a pale shadow of what he was. Campbell has to bail almost every time Moss goes long. We'll have to wait until Zorn puts Marko and Kelly on his throw long to list before we find out whether or not Campbell can do it.

Wow... well said CH. I actually agree with you here.

crazyhorse1 wrote:Yards we gain on the ground occur almost exclusively in the last quarter when defenses are worn out from rushing Campbell. They are gifts from the passing game, which is effective, and Zorn deserts as soon as he can think of an excuse to do it.

Not ready to jump on that ship though. Some of CP's best runs have come at the beginning of games. Nevertheless, I do agree that running deep in the red zone is tough going right now, and that's because I believe teams know we will run in those situations and game plan for it. I would. That's why passing on 1st downs in deep will keep the defenses guessing.

I actually liked the offensive game plan in this game against the Rams, at least the plan between the 20's. They came out throwing the ball to open up some run lanes. I like that attack and hope they stay with it.

One of the things that I don't care for is the way Zorn is so predictable or how he fails to utilize other weapons on the team. For example, I was pissed after the 1st game that Thomas, Kelly and Davis weren't being used. At this point, the offensive failures and the refusal to use our young pass catchers is squarely on Jim Zorn and is, at least in my book, inexcusable.

Now, he did come out this week and got them more involved; they tried to get a few passes to Thomas and Kelly and I even saw them use a two TE set many times throughout the game, although no passes have been called to Davis yet. But I do think they're coming. I mean, the fact is here is that you aren't going to use your entire play book in the first two games of the year. But...

Zorn said coming into this game that he wanted to get Moss more involved. It fails because Zorn thinks he can just call a bunch of plays to Moss, yet Moss is always doubled. The way to get the ball to Moss is to start throwing to OTHER receivers, relentlessly, and force the defense to roll coverage to those guys. The result is that Moss then gets single coverage and can burn a defense that way. But you don't come out all week in the media saying you want to get Moss more touches and think the opposing teams aren't listening and won't just cover him up or lock him down. I mean, there's just no surprise factor with Zorn's offense or approach.

Davis had that pathetic WR screen vs the Rams.