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Redskins React to Beeing Booed

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:52 pm
by CanesSkins26
Last March, as the Caps were on the road to their second consecutive division title and playoff appearance, some fans began booing the team during particularly lackluster home appearances.

"Fans are getting fanatic," Donald Brashear told me, with a laugh, at the time. "They know what we're capable of, and they want to see us perform."

At the time, I spoke out against the booing, since the Caps were an elite and entertaining team that I felt deserved the benefit of the doubt. But booing the Redskins on Sunday, after a drab first half against a bad Rams team...I'm just not exactly sure how I feel about that. On the one hand, it was the first half of the first home game, which seems a tad premature. On the other hand, after a decade-long drought of mediocrity, D.C. football fans just don't have a reservoir of patience any more. It's all dry and scaly, with the faint whiff of rust and decay. (Also: read a history of D.C. fans booing the home teams here).

So while I'd probably wait until the team had actually lost before unleashing the most powerful weapon in the fan's arsenal (possibly besides a beer bong), I can go either way on the halftime booing. But booing the team after they actually won the game, as Redskins fans did on Sunday? Even as the team was in victory formation on the field, loudly expressing your guttural unhappiness. That I just don't get.

"I thought it was a shame, to be honest with you," said Chris Cooley, arguably the team's most popular player. "You take a win when you can get it. And there's a lot of good players, and there's a lot of good teams in this league. I think Washington prides themselves on being the best fans, and I think that they should try to be the best fans. We won. I understand they wanted us to beat the Rams by 40, but we still won, and we if we continue to win games, that's great. Booing's unnecessary."

This was both the most passionate and the best-expressed version of this argument that I heard, and frankly, I agree. Other players seemed more surprised than annoyed.

"Fans are hardcore over here," Andre Carter told Mike Wise. "I understand. Still, a win is a win. That's a first, unfortunately, for me. To be booed after a game we won? That's a first."

"We appreciate them, and everyone has freedom of choice," Antwaan Randle El said, "but for us as a team, we play better when you don't [boo]."

Perhaps the most animated player was backup linebacker Robert Henson, who took to Twitter to repeatedly criticize the home crowd, saying he had never been booed at home like that before, and that his friends on the Rams were also surprised.

"All you fake half hearted Skins fan can .. I won't go there but I dislike you very strongly, don't come to Fed Ex to boo dim wits!!" he wrote, among many other jabs. "The question is who are you to say you know what's best for the team and you work 9 to 5 at Mcdonalds," he wrote later.

But a few players on the team took a completely different approach, saying that the booing was actually justified and understandable.

"They just want a better output in some areas," Phil Daniels said. "I understand it. I understand the booing. I understand why they're booing. I mean, it ain't the first time."

"They're the fans; if they want to boo, let them boo," Fred Smoot said. "They should have booed."

I asked why he thought fans should boo; "because they wanted to," Smoot said. "You can't control them, you can just control what we did on the field."

And many others on the team sort of shrugged off the question, saying it doesn't really matter to them what fans decide to do.

"I don't pay attention to that stuff," Mike Sellers said. "It's not gonna make us lose the game. It's on us."

"You hear it, but you don't know who they're booing, so I don't really get into it," Santana Moss said. "It's not my say-so to tell em what to do, you know what I mean? If you're gonna be with us, you be with us; if you ain't...." and here he shrugged his shoulders. "I've got to play my game. I'm not out there worrying about what's going on in the stands or worrying about what's being said. I'm out there to do my job."

"Yeah, we'd like to run for 300 yards and pass for 600 yards and win by 50, but we moved the ball effectively, we just didn't produce in the red zone, and a win's a win...." Casey Rabach said. "I've been here five years and like I said, it's not the first time I've heard it. it is what it is. The fans are showing their disapproval, and everyone's entitled to their opinion. We're just gonna keep on working hard."

At the end of the day, the players and the fans probably largely feel the same. I'm not sure when I've been in so depressing a winning locker room. Several players were extremely agitated, and the news about Randy Thomas's potentially season-ending injury didn't help. There was hardly any laughing or joking or gloating, but there were plenty of players who were grateful that their record is now 1-1.

"Hey, fans gonna be fans, you know?" DeAngelo Hall said of the boos. "They love you when you're up, they have their opinions when you're down. But we've still got great fans, man. We've got to give them something to be happy about. I'm happy we got a win. We could have played a hell of a lot better though."


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/so_is_it_really_time_to_boo_th_1.html

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:55 pm
by CanesSkins26
Brian Mitchell's response to Robert Henson on postgame: "Who the hell is Robert Henson?"

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:01 pm
by Irn-Bru
We really have a lackluster, confused, and boorish fan base. It's very sad.

(Yes, I know that not everyone is that way. There are lots of people like Terri and Jake who go and show the right kind of support. But who can deny that the fans, at large, are part of the problem?)

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:06 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
CanesSkins26 wrote:Brian Mitchell's response to Robert Henson on postgame: "Who the hell is Robert Henson?"
Thats exactly what I said to Robert when I saw that. I also tweeted that he don't even start and is 1 cut away from working at mc donalds like the fans he just put down.

He later apologized to the fans.

Re: Redskins React to Beeing Booed

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:12 pm
by Deadskins
On the one hand, it was the first half of the first home game, which seems a tad premature. On the other hand, after a decade-long drought of mediocrity, D.C. football fans just don't have a reservoir of patience any more. It's all dry and scaly, with the faint whiff of rust and decay.

Psst Washington Post, the Redskins were mediocre for 7 years before Snyder bought the team. :roll:

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:22 pm
by Cappster
The easy solution to not being booed is to beat a terrible Rams team by more than 2 pts when they only had 7pts. I think most of us realize that we have the talent on the team to win and win big. Being 0-4 in redzone trips is just deflating. We are seeing the same thing as we did last year. Our D cannot get off the field on 3rd down and our offense cannot score. There is a lot of built up frustration so I can understand why there is booing. Its like everyone wants to burst with excitement, but a performance like that, although it was a win, just leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:25 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
I would have booed too if I had drove 1 hour and paid $100+ dollars to watch the garbage. Hell, I'm at the point where I wont even drive to greenbelt if the game isn't being shown in Baltimore. I hate making that drive home after they lose, it just eats at my soul. lol especially knowing i gotta drive right back down there in a few hours to go to work. lol

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:28 pm
by DesertSkin
Irn-Bru wrote:We really have a lackluster, confused, and boorish fan base. It's very sad.

(Yes, I know that not everyone is that way. There are lots of people like Terri and Jake who go and show the right kind of support. But who can deny that the fans, at large, are part of the problem?)


There's more than a handful of fans that should be boo'ed themselves.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:33 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Irn-Bru wrote:But who can deny that the fans, at large, are part of the problem?)


please explain.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:35 pm
by gibbsfan
the booing didn,t suprise me too much..it didn,t suprise me at all really..

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:38 pm
by TeeterSalad
I think they were booing the fact that Zorn didn't go for a TD at the end..of course I wasn't there but thats what I saw at the very end of the game. Either way, I think the boo's were mostly intended for JZ.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:43 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
TeeterSalad wrote:I think they were booing the fact that Zorn didn't go for a TD at the end..of course I wasn't there but thats what I saw at the very end of the game. Either way, I think the boo's were mostly intended for JZ.


This is what I believe to be true. I would have booed him for taking the knee but not team after the win. I would not have cheered but I wouldn't have booed the team.

However, I would have had an earful of anger for Jake. lol

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:56 pm
by Wahoo McDaniels
I was at the game and I didn't think the booing was bad at all. I think instead of the booing what I saw was complete and utter apathy by the fan base. There was NO excitement in the stands and for large stretches when the defense had the ball there were people who were marginally paying attention in the stands. This is the worst thing that can happen. As with boxing, you wanted to be either loved or hated, it's when nobody cares that you really get concerned.


BTW, Snyder even outdid himself today. He bought all of the satellite parking up outside the game and raised the cost by 60%. He may be the worst person on earth. Move over Idi Amin.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:04 pm
by SkinsFreak
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
TeeterSalad wrote:I think they were booing the fact that Zorn didn't go for a TD at the end..of course I wasn't there but thats what I saw at the very end of the game. Either way, I think the boo's were mostly intended for JZ.


This is what I believe to be true.


Yeah, I'm with you guys on this. I completely agree.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:14 pm
by Mursilis
Irn-Bru wrote:We really have a lackluster, confused, and boorish fan base. It's very sad.


It's not just our fans - it's football fans in general. I'd say 3/4 of the football fanbase is plain no-class trash, just looking for an excuse to get drunk (again) and shout obscenities in public. That's why I don't go to games - why on earth would I want to pay big $$ to spend 3 hours surrounded by drunken morons?

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:22 pm
by riggofan
Irn-Bru wrote:We really have a lackluster, confused, and boorish fan base. It's very sad.

(Yes, I know that not everyone is that way. There are lots of people like Terri and Jake who go and show the right kind of support. But who can deny that the fans, at large, are part of the problem?)


A lackluster fan base?? Part of the problem?

Redskins fans might be demanding and overly passionate sometimes, but I don't see how you can call them lackluster. People around here are crazy about this team.

I was in the car tonight listening to fans call in to 106.7. I think fans calling in were smart enough to know that yeah a "win is a win", but that was a pretty sad effort out there today against a bad team. It seemed like people were most ticked off about the play calling.

I'd guess that most of the boo's out there today were directed towards Zorn and maybe that little Napoleon in the skybox.

Really weird btw. I can't think of a game we won where the fans were so disappointed. Not really that surprising though.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:25 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
I would have booed as well. Again, until the Redskins decide to field a professional team -- you know, the ones who know how to score touchdowns -- this season is about done. They are .500 right now, and all signs point to finishing under that, to this disgruntled fan. :cry:

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:28 pm
by jdubya
TeeterSalad wrote:I think they were booing the fact that Zorn didn't go for a TD at the end..of course I wasn't there but thats what I saw at the very end of the game. Either way, I think the boo's were mostly intended for JZ.


I was there, and this is why I was making noise. I would never boo the 'Skins, but Zorn shoulda showed some sac and punched it in.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:34 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Mursilis wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:We really have a lackluster, confused, and boorish fan base. It's very sad.


It's not just our fans - it's football fans in general. I'd say 3/4 of the football fanbase is plain no-class trash, just looking for an excuse to get drunk (again) and shout obscenities in public. That's why I don't go to games - why on earth would I want to pay big $$ to spend 3 hours surrounded by drunken morons?
Thats another reason that I do not attened. The only thing worth seeing are the THN fam. Especially jaxkson who is my fav.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:42 pm
by MDSKINSFAN
I think the booing was directed more, if not entirely, towards Zorn not the players. We have no reason to be upset with the players except maybe Hall. Some reporter should ask Zorn what he thinks of being booed after a home win and I hope he isn't as arrogant to say he didn't deserve it. Maybe being booed will make him realize what a terrible play caller he is and that he needs to make adjustments.

We should be beyond the point of barely beating one of the worst teams in the league and I believe that is on Zorn and that's it. Those fans, especially season ticket holders, are paying to see this team and if I were one of them I would feel like I wasn't getting my moneys worth, seeing a mediocre team year in-year out that has the potential and talent to be a great team.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:47 pm
by CanesSkins26
I think the booing was directed more, if not entirely, towards Zorn not the players. We have no reason to be upset with the players except maybe Hall.


No reason to be upset with the players? Look, the playcalling was poor, but both Sellers and Thomas dropped td passes. Campbell missed a likely TD pass to Kelly. The execution, on offense mainly, was terrible.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:51 pm
by DesertSkin
jdubya wrote:
TeeterSalad wrote:I think they were booing the fact that Zorn didn't go for a TD at the end..of course I wasn't there but thats what I saw at the very end of the game. Either way, I think the boo's were mostly intended for JZ.


I was there, and this is why I was making noise. I would never boo the 'Skins, but Zorn shoulda showed some sac and punched it in.


Come on. Zorn's six best calls in the red zone today where..kick, kick, kick, kneel, kneel, kneel.

I'm as disappointed in the red zone play calling as anyone, but to not kneel would have been disguistingly stupid.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:59 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Robert Henson is back on twitter acting like a chump. LOL he's really salty.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:00 pm
by CanesSkins26
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Robert Henson is back on twitter acting like a chump. LOL he's really salty.


Yea I was just reading his tweets. He's acting like a complete fool.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:06 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
I think he's lying about the fans spitting on him. Nobody else is reporting that, he's just saying that to validate his temper tantrum from earlier today.