(Poll) Who would have the better future as Skins QB?
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:18 pm
Not necessarily who would have the better career anywhere but only as a Redskin.
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(Poll) Who would have the better future as Skins QB?
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:38 pm
J.Campbell
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:41 pm
Definitely Campbell. He's shown that he's at least an average QB in the NFL. Brennan is a 3rd stringer and always will be and Sanchez isn't even in the NFL yet.
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:18 pm
Jason is coming off of a pretty good year really, I like his numbers.. low on the interception side. He took little to no chances throwing it down the field.
I think with the second year in the same system he will be able to adjust and to be very productive the widouts are going to love it too.
He was a Gibbs product and Zorn and Gibbs are not all alike or anything. And the oline did not protect real well , It will come together for the offense. Not to knock the offensive line but they did get run down in the second half. I believe Jason is a hard worker a fast learner and will be much improved in the offseason.
I think with the second year in the same system he will be able to adjust and to be very productive the widouts are going to love it too.
He was a Gibbs product and Zorn and Gibbs are not all alike or anything. And the oline did not protect real well , It will come together for the offense. Not to knock the offensive line but they did get run down in the second half. I believe Jason is a hard worker a fast learner and will be much improved in the offseason.
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:49 pm
Brennen has a QB's temperment.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:30 am
Sanchez is not a Redskins so he's an automatic out. Colt did not beat out Todd Collins so he's out. That leaves us JC. JC has proven he can manage a game. This year he needs to win us a game. He's first round talent that has yet to wake up. I think his biggest problem is he is thinking too much. But that has a lot to do with so many different offenses. I think the longer he plays in a system, the better he will be in the long run. He has shown signs of being a pro-bowl QB. We just need him to do it consistantly.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:08 am
Colt's been in the league one year and only played with 3rd string. Kinda tough to judge that in one year.
JC has shown glimpses of efficiency, but nothing in consistancy.
Sanchez hasn't even been drafted yet.
As for this poll, I'm not going to go in to basless speculation.
JC has shown glimpses of efficiency, but nothing in consistancy.
Sanchez hasn't even been drafted yet.
As for this poll, I'm not going to go in to basless speculation.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:59 am
Scottskins wrote:Definitely Campbell. He's shown that he's at least an average QB in the NFL. Brennan is a 3rd stringer and always will be and Sanchez isn't even in the NFL yet.
This is a rediculous statement. There is no way to know is CB would be a career third QB. If you remember the Skins gave up an 1st, 3rd. and 4th round pick to get JC and he still entered his second season as the Skins third QB.
I'm not saying CB will amount to more, just that it is rediculous to say he won't be anything but a career 3rd QB just because in his rookie year, he, a 6th round pick, was the 3rd QB on a team behind a guy the team gave up three picks to get and a veteran QB that had just won four straight regualar season games and led his team to the playoffs.
Right now it would be safer to say that JC will never be anything but an average QB at best.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:35 am
DEFINETLY Campbell at this time. I do not think he's a very good QB but I think he has more upside than the other 2.
We need a new future great QB but I do not think that Sanchez or Brennan offer all that much - this poll is very restrictive
hopefully we do not use the #13 pick on Sanchez as we have many other issues on offense
I think we will have a better idea on how we are doing and what the future holds for Campbell after 8 to 12 games, and, at that time we will be able to plan for what we want to do about the QB position going forward. Right now it looks like a better class of QBs next year but we also have other "issues" with our offense than just a new future great QB
A "good" QB like Campbell might suffice while we assemble the other parts
We need a new future great QB but I do not think that Sanchez or Brennan offer all that much - this poll is very restrictive
hopefully we do not use the #13 pick on Sanchez as we have many other issues on offense
I think we will have a better idea on how we are doing and what the future holds for Campbell after 8 to 12 games, and, at that time we will be able to plan for what we want to do about the QB position going forward. Right now it looks like a better class of QBs next year but we also have other "issues" with our offense than just a new future great QB
A "good" QB like Campbell might suffice while we assemble the other parts
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:48 am
Campbell.
I like the potential in Colt, but he's got a longer road in front him. I definitely think he'll be the #2 QB this year and should be. I'm not even considering Collins. If Campbell goes down with an injury, I wouldn't be nervous about Colt stepping in to take his place.
Sanchez is a one year starter. Even if we draft him, he'll need to sit for at least a year. So you're back to Campbell. I just can't imagine they'd completely turn the offense over to a rookie.
Campbell will be much improved this coming year, as will the entire offense. Last season, JC was merely getting comfortable and learning what Zorn was preaching, which was mostly to be perfect with the ball, not make mistakes and to stay medium. Now that JC will be more confident in the system, he'll be able to take more chances.
The receivers, Zorn, 2nd year in a system, chip on his should, the feeling he has something to prove, increased confidence from system stability... Campbell will be better.
I like the potential in Colt, but he's got a longer road in front him. I definitely think he'll be the #2 QB this year and should be. I'm not even considering Collins. If Campbell goes down with an injury, I wouldn't be nervous about Colt stepping in to take his place.
Sanchez is a one year starter. Even if we draft him, he'll need to sit for at least a year. So you're back to Campbell. I just can't imagine they'd completely turn the offense over to a rookie.
Campbell will be much improved this coming year, as will the entire offense. Last season, JC was merely getting comfortable and learning what Zorn was preaching, which was mostly to be perfect with the ball, not make mistakes and to stay medium. Now that JC will be more confident in the system, he'll be able to take more chances.
The receivers, Zorn, 2nd year in a system, chip on his should, the feeling he has something to prove, increased confidence from system stability... Campbell will be better.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:59 am
Sanchez, obviously.
With all the turmoil on the Redskins and a possible coaching change next season I don't see Campbell having a lot of chance for success with all these new offenses. Sanchez would at least be a blank slate.
With all the turmoil on the Redskins and a possible coaching change next season I don't see Campbell having a lot of chance for success with all these new offenses. Sanchez would at least be a blank slate.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:46 am
Right now it's Campbell because he has actually played in the NFL. Sanchez, imo, has the most potential out of the three though.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:22 pm
The Colt Brennan stuff never fails to amuse me. People really believe that our third string QB is our best option.
Amazing that none of the coaches has realized that.
I don't really have any opinion on Sanchez. I just think that if we draft him the most likely scenario is that he will have huge expectations, get thrown into the fire early, get killed behind the o-line which we failed to upgrade, be labelled a "bust", and go the way of Patrick Ramsey and Jason Campbell. Would anybody be remotely surprised?
Amazing that none of the coaches has realized that.
I don't really have any opinion on Sanchez. I just think that if we draft him the most likely scenario is that he will have huge expectations, get thrown into the fire early, get killed behind the o-line which we failed to upgrade, be labelled a "bust", and go the way of Patrick Ramsey and Jason Campbell. Would anybody be remotely surprised?
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:53 pm
Campbell will give us 8-8 and no fire
Sanchez takes us 0-16 or 16-0
My gut feeling is that Dan wants Sanchez; and if we've learned anything it's our owner usually gets what he wants.
Sanchez takes us 0-16 or 16-0
My gut feeling is that Dan wants Sanchez; and if we've learned anything it's our owner usually gets what he wants.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:53 pm
riggofan wrote:The Colt Brennan stuff never fails to amuse me. People really believe that our third string QB is our best option.
Amazing that none of the coaches has realized that
Ditto
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:40 am
Brennan would make a a nice story, but everything I've ever read about him is that he has a weak arm. It is my opinion that you can't even be an average QB in the NFL with a weak arm. Defensive players are too fast in the modern NFL.
It's starting to look like Campbell is done in washington though. If he stays here this season and finally figures it all out, who expects him to stay here next year when he's a free agent?
It's starting to look like Campbell is done in washington though. If he stays here this season and finally figures it all out, who expects him to stay here next year when he's a free agent?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:12 am
KazooSkinsFan wrote:riggofan wrote:The Colt Brennan stuff never fails to amuse me. People really believe that our third string QB is our best option.
Amazing that none of the coaches has realized that
Ditto
Yeah, becuase 2nd day rookies start at QB all the time...
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:22 am
VetSkinsFan wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:riggofan wrote:The Colt Brennan stuff never fails to amuse me. People really believe that our third string QB is our best option.
Amazing that none of the coaches has realized that
Ditto
Yeah, because 2nd day rookies start at QB all the time...
well, there was that guy from Michigan that could not "start" because of a guy called Drew Henson - he was a second day pick (6th round) that turned out fairly well - Tom Brady
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:32 am
SkinsJock wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:riggofan wrote:The Colt Brennan stuff never fails to amuse me. People really believe that our third string QB is our best option.
Amazing that none of the coaches has realized that
Ditto
Yeah, because 2nd day rookies start at QB all the time...
well, there was that guy from Michigan that could not "start" because of a guy called Drew Henson - he was a second day pick (6th round) that turned out fairly well - Tom Brady
And he started from week 1 year 1?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:36 am
Oh! I thought you knew
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:27 pm
VetSkinsFan wrote:SkinsJock wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:riggofan wrote:The Colt Brennan stuff never fails to amuse me. People really believe that our third string QB is our best option.
Amazing that none of the coaches has realized that
Ditto
Yeah, because 2nd day rookies start at QB all the time...
well, there was that guy from Michigan that could not "start" because of a guy called Drew Henson - he was a second day pick (6th round) that turned out fairly well - Tom Brady
And he started from week 1 year 1?
No! Week 3, year 2!
So we have nothing that says that CB can't be the next Brady, except for the fact that CB had a much better college carreer. Of course CB could be the next Shuler (someone should have waived off his request for #5!). But more likely we won't give him a chance and he will go some where else and be a star.
Off course there is nothing to point at how well Sanchez will do either!
TB threw more TDs (18) his first 14 games than JC has in any year as a pro and JC only had one year at Auburn where he threw for more than 18 (20).
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:58 pm
SkinsJock wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:riggofan wrote:The Colt Brennan stuff never fails to amuse me. People really believe that our third string QB is our best option.
Amazing that none of the coaches has realized that
Ditto
Yeah, because 2nd day rookies start at QB all the time...
well, there was that guy from Michigan that could not "start" because of a guy called Drew Henson - he was a second day pick (6th round) that turned out fairly well - Tom Brady
OOohhhh, I thought you were talking about me until you mentioned Tom, what's his name. Though he was pretty good too...
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:07 pm
I think it's Colt. The way the team has handled Jason Campbell's development reminds me of Patrick Ramsey. Could the constant change have ruined a potentially great QB, in JC? I think so.
Colt, on the other hand, is Vinny and Dan's guy. He will have some growing pains, but he can really electrify the team with his bravado and gun-slinger style of play.
Colt, on the other hand, is Vinny and Dan's guy. He will have some growing pains, but he can really electrify the team with his bravado and gun-slinger style of play.
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:47 am
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Colt, on the other hand, is Vinny and Dan's guy. He will have some growing pains, but he can really electrify the team with his bravado and gun-slinger style of play.
Actually, Colt is JZ's guy. They wanted to draft a QB in round 6 and had Brennan rated the same as Andre Woodson and Matt Flynn, so they told Zorn to choose which one he wanted to work with.
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:08 am
Colt actually has more votes than Sanchez at this point. Come on guys!
Watch this video. It's every pass he threw in the Rose Bowl (not just a highlight reel though it plays like one).
In particular, just notice how fast this guy plays... his feet, his reads, his release.
I usually beat my head against the wall when we do the "sexy" move, but this guy may just be worth the trade up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNwVfPNhYtI
Watch this video. It's every pass he threw in the Rose Bowl (not just a highlight reel though it plays like one).
In particular, just notice how fast this guy plays... his feet, his reads, his release.
I usually beat my head against the wall when we do the "sexy" move, but this guy may just be worth the trade up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNwVfPNhYtI