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1. Detroit Mark Sanchez/QB/USC
2. St. Louis Jason Smith/OT/Baylor
3. Kansas City Aaron Curry/OLB/Wake Forest
4. Seattle Eugene Monroe/OT/Virginia
5. Cleveland Everette Brown/DE-OLB/Florida State
6. Cincinnati Brian Orakpo/DE/Texas
7. Oakland Darrius Heyward-Bey/WR/Maryland
8. Jacksonville Michael Crabtree/WR/Texas Tech
9. Green Bay Bj Raji/DT/Boston College
10. San Francisco Michael Oher/OT/Ole Miss
11. Buffalo Aaron Maybin/DE-OLB/Penn State
12. Denver Matthew Stafford/QB/Georgia
13. Washington Andre Smith/OT/Alabama
14. New Orleans Malcolm Jenkins/CB-S/Ohio State
15. Houston Brian Cushing/OLB/USC
16. San Diego Rey Maualuga/MLB/USC
17. New York Jets Jeremy Maclin/WR/Missouri
18. Denver (from Chicago) Tyson Jackson/DE/LSU
19. Tampa Bay Vontae Davis/CB/Clemson
20. Detroit (from Dallas) Peria Jerry/DT/Ole Miss
21. Philadelphia Chris Wells/RB/Ohio State
22. Minnesota Eben Britton/OT/Arizona
23. New England Clay Matthews/OLB/USC
24. Atlanta Jared Cook/TE/South Carolina
25. Miami Darius Butler/CB/UConn
26. Baltimore Hakeem Nicks/WR/UNC
27. Indianapolis Percy Harvin/WR/Florida
28. Philadelphia (from Carolina) Alex Mack/C-G/Cal
29. New York Giants James Laurinaitis/MLB/Ohio State
30. Tennessee Michael Johnson/DE/Georgia Tech
31. Arizona Eric Wood/C-G/Louisville
32. Pittsburgh Alphonso Smith/CB/Wake Forest

Most people will think I got Sanchez/E. Brown/Heyward-Bey too high and Stafford/V.Davis/A. Smith too low. This is how I see it right now it will change before the draft.

I have the Skins drafting Andre Smith at 13. I hope Michael Oher slips to 13 but its going to be close. I also thought about giving the Skins Cushing but I decided against it.

Thoughts? (Be Gentle )

Looks a sensible choice, long as he wears a shirt so we know what team he's on.

Lot of the published drafts have us getting Oher

SkinsSince96 wrote:1. Detroit Mark Sanchez/QB/USC
2. St. Louis Jason Smith/OT/Baylor
3. Kansas City Aaron Curry/OLB/Wake Forest
4. Seattle Eugene Monroe/OT/Virginia
5. Cleveland Everette Brown/DE-OLB/Florida State
6. Cincinnati Brian Orakpo/DE/Texas
7. Oakland Darrius Heyward-Bey/WR/Maryland
8. Jacksonville Michael Crabtree/WR/Texas Tech
9. Green Bay Bj Raji/DT/Boston College
10. San Francisco Michael Oher/OT/Ole Miss
11. Buffalo Aaron Maybin/DE-OLB/Penn State
12. Denver Matthew Stafford/QB/Georgia
13. Washington Andre Smith/OT/Alabama
14. New Orleans Malcolm Jenkins/CB-S/Ohio State
15. Houston Brian Cushing/OLB/USC
16. San Diego Rey Maualuga/MLB/USC
17. New York Jets Jeremy Maclin/WR/Missouri
18. Denver (from Chicago) Tyson Jackson/DE/LSU
19. Tampa Bay Vontae Davis/CB/Clemson
20. Detroit (from Dallas) Peria Jerry/DT/Ole Miss
21. Philadelphia Chris Wells/RB/Ohio State
22. Minnesota Eben Britton/OT/Arizona
23. New England Clay Matthews/OLB/USC
24. Atlanta Jared Cook/TE/South Carolina
25. Miami Darius Butler/CB/UConn
26. Baltimore Hakeem Nicks/WR/UNC
27. Indianapolis Percy Harvin/WR/Florida
28. Philadelphia (from Carolina) Alex Mack/C-G/Cal
29. New York Giants James Laurinaitis/MLB/Ohio State
30. Tennessee Michael Johnson/DE/Georgia Tech
31. Arizona Eric Wood/C-G/Louisville
32. Pittsburgh Alphonso Smith/CB/Wake Forest

Most people will think I got Sanchez/E. Brown/Heyward-Bey too high and Stafford/V.Davis/A. Smith too low. This is how I see it right now it will change before the draft.

I have the Skins drafting Andre Smith at 13. I hope Michael Oher slips to 13 but its going to be close. I also thought about giving the Skins Cushing but I decided against it.

Thoughts? (Be Gentle )

I stopped reading after I saw that you had Heyward-Bey going before Crabtree.

It's not a stretch or unreasonable to think Oakland may like Hayward-Bey. Oakland has always valued speed at the WR position. That's common knowledge. Crabtree doesn't posses elite speed, although he still could go higher to a team like the Seahawks. His mock draft isn't that bad.

SkinsFreak wrote:It's not a stretch or unreasonable to think Oakland may like Hayward-Bey. Oakland has always valued speed at the WR position. That's common knowledge. Crabtree doesn't posses elite speed, although he still could go higher to a team like the Seahawks. His mock draft isn't that bad.

There is no way that Heyward-Bey goes before either Maclin or Crabtree. Simply isn't going to happen. Crabtree is a Fitzgerald-like talent. A team isn't going to pass on him to take a raw receiver like Heyward-Bey.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:It's not a stretch or unreasonable to think Oakland may like Hayward-Bey. Oakland has always valued speed at the WR position. That's common knowledge. Crabtree doesn't posses elite speed, although he still could go higher to a team like the Seahawks. His mock draft isn't that bad.

There is no way that Heyward-Bey goes before either Maclin or Crabtree.

I didn't say he would. I merely said the Raiders value speed, so it's not unreasonable for someones MOCK draft to say the Raiders may take the fastest WR. Will it happen? Probably not, but it's a MOCK.

SkinsFreak wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:It's not a stretch or unreasonable to think Oakland may like Hayward-Bey. Oakland has always valued speed at the WR position. That's common knowledge. Crabtree doesn't posses elite speed, although he still could go higher to a team like the Seahawks. His mock draft isn't that bad.

There is no way that Heyward-Bey goes before either Maclin or Crabtree.

I didn't say he would. I merely said the Raiders value speed, so it's not unreasonable for someones MOCK draft to say the Raiders may take the fastest WR. Will it happen? Probably not, but it's a MOCK.

True. I was probably a little harsh with my initial response.

CanesSkins26 wrote:I stopped reading after I saw that you had Heyward-Bey going before Crabtree.

Thats my "Al Davis Oakland special". I got a gut feeling they take DHB at 7. Theres always a couple shockers on draft day and that one will probably be the first.

SkinsSince96 wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:I stopped reading after I saw that you had Heyward-Bey going before Crabtree.

Thats my "Al Davis Oakland special". I got a gut feeling they take DHB at 7. Theres always a couple shockers on draft day and that one will probably be the first.

LIKE TED GINN LOL

stafford will never fall to 12

SkinsSince96 wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:I stopped reading after I saw that you had Heyward-Bey going before Crabtree.

Thats my "Al Davis Oakland special". I got a gut feeling they take DHB at 7. Theres always a couple shockers on draft day and that one will probably be the first.

Yeah, who did the Iggles take that one year? 'bout 10 years ago they drafted a DE that NO ONE had rated above a 3rd round prospect. (and I mean NO ONE) Iggles drafted him in the 1st and then I think cut him two years later.

Anyway, my mock would differ greatly from this one. I don't agree at all with the placement of Sanchez, Oher, Bey or Brown, among others. But hey, it's a mock.

NJ-SKINS-FAN wrote:

SkinsSince96 wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:I stopped reading after I saw that you had Heyward-Bey going before Crabtree.

Thats my "Al Davis Oakland special". I got a gut feeling they take DHB at 7. Theres always a couple shockers on draft day and that one will probably be the first.

LIKE TED GINN LOL

Anyone who thought Ginn was a top 20 pick was a idiot imo. Ginn going 9th to the Phins was ignorant.

DHB is a 6'1 210 lb WR who runs a 4.3 40 he isnt Ted Ginn. I got a feeling DHB goes alot higher than what people think.

NJ-SKINS-FAN wrote:stafford will never fall to 12

I didnt include trades in my mock or he wouldnt of went 12th. I dont think Stafford will drop to 12 either. My last mock before the draft is usually when I had a trade or two.

fleetus wrote:Anyway, my mock would differ greatly from this one. I don't agree at all with the placement of Sanchez, Oher, Bey or Brown, among others. But hey, it's a mock.

Yeah its a mock ive seen 100 different ones in the last month. Its really all a guessing game.

This is what I've got

DET 1. Stafford, Matthew
STL 2. Smith, Jason
KC 3. Curry, Aaron
SEA 4. Monroe, Eugene
CLE 5. Orakpo, Brian
CIN 6. Smith, Andre
OAK 7. Crabtree, M.
JAC 8. Oher, Michael
GB 9. Raji, B.J.
SF 10. Maclin, Jeremy
BUF 11. Maybin, Aaron
DEN 12. Sanchez, Mark
WAS 13. Cushing, Brian
NO 14. Wells, Chris
HOU 15. Harvin, Percy
SD 16. Maualuga, Rey
NYJ 17. Heyward-Bey, D.
DEN 18. Jenkins, Malcolm
TB 19. Freeman, Josh
DET 20. Brown, Everette
PHI 21. Moreno, K.
MIN 22. Nicks, Hakeem
NE 23. Ayers, Robert
ATL 24. English, Larry
MIA 25. Jackson, Tyson
BAL 26. Smith, Alphonso
IND 27. Jerry, Peria
PHI 28. Delmas, Louis
NYG 29. Pettigrew, B.
TEN 30. Johnson, Michael
ARI 31. McCoy, LeSean
PIT 32. Davis, Vontae

andyjens89 wrote:This is what I've got

DET 1. Stafford, Matthew
DEN 12. Sanchez, Mark
NO 14. Wells, Chris
HOU 15. Harvin, Percy
DET 20. Brown, Everette
ARI 31. McCoy, LeSean

I like Sanchez more than Stafford but its really a flip of the coin. They both are about the same level imo. Wells to the Saints is interesting. I keep hearing the Saints want Wells. I find it weird that they dont like Pierre Thomas. Imo hes a damn good RB. That will be a pick I will find interesting when the Saints are on the clock. I havent really thought about Harvin to the Texans. They have bigger holes on defense. I dont think Everette Brown will slip to 20. Hes got great ability and has a insane burst. If the Cards draft a RB they will draft Donald Brown imo. I actually have Brown ahead of Moreno in my rankings.

Overall, its a very nice mock. Great job dude.

CanesSkins26 wrote:There is no way that Heyward-Bey goes before either Maclin or Crabtree. Simply isn't going to happen. Crabtree is a Fitzgerald-like talent. A team isn't going to pass on him to take a raw receiver like Heyward-Bey.

Mayock has Heyward-Bey going 7th to Oakland in his mock draft he just showed tonight.

I think he copied off of me.

SkinsSince96 wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:There is no way that Heyward-Bey goes before either Maclin or Crabtree. Simply isn't going to happen. Crabtree is a Fitzgerald-like talent. A team isn't going to pass on him to take a raw receiver like Heyward-Bey.

Mayock has Heyward-Bey going 7th to Oakland in his mock draft he just showed tonight.

I think he copied off of me.

You have to love speed. Heyward-Bey could become a dangerous downfield weapon. He'll be a project, but I wouldn't be shocked if he goes before Harvin/Maclin, simply because of his size compared to them and the fact he ran the best 40. I wouldn't be shocked if the skins took him. I think Oakland will take Crabtree if they go that route though.

brad7686 wrote:I think Oakland will take Crabtree if they go that route though.

Odds are the Raiders would take Crabtree if they went WR. I decided to go DHB just because I have a gut feeling.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:It's not a stretch or unreasonable to think Oakland may like Hayward-Bey. Oakland has always valued speed at the WR position. That's common knowledge. Crabtree doesn't posses elite speed, although he still could go higher to a team like the Seahawks. His mock draft isn't that bad.

There is no way that Heyward-Bey goes before either Maclin or Crabtree. Simply isn't going to happen. Crabtree is a Fitzgerald-like talent. A team isn't going to pass on him to take a raw receiver like Heyward-Bey.

I could see Heyward-Bey going before Maclin because I personally think he is a better all around receiver who can return kicks and punts pretty well himself, but to put him above Crabtree is insane. Crabtree is a rare talent. He is probably the best receiver talent since Calvin Johnson who is really good.

MDSKINSFAN wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:It's not a stretch or unreasonable to think Oakland may like Hayward-Bey. Oakland has always valued speed at the WR position. That's common knowledge. Crabtree doesn't posses elite speed, although he still could go higher to a team like the Seahawks. His mock draft isn't that bad.

There is no way that Heyward-Bey goes before either Maclin or Crabtree. Simply isn't going to happen. Crabtree is a Fitzgerald-like talent. A team isn't going to pass on him to take a raw receiver like Heyward-Bey.

I could see Heyward-Bey going before Maclin because I personally think he is a better all around receiver who can return kicks and punts pretty well himself, but to put him above Crabtree is insane. Crabtree is a rare talent. He is probably the best receiver talent since Calvin Johnson who is really good.

I actually got Crabtree 1 and DHB a close 2nd in my rankings. I based the mock on a gut feeling with the Raiders pick. Hopefully it pans out. My draft doesnt go by my rankings all together I base them on what I think teams will do with the pick.

i dont get why the Giants would draft Laurinitus when they have Peirce... And the Lions are going to take Stafford, i honostly feel thats a done deal already. I mean do they really want Culpepper playing still?

ChocolateMilk wrote:i dont get why the Giants would draft Laurinitus when they have Peirce... And the Lions are going to take Stafford, i honostly feel thats a done deal already. I mean do they really want Culpepper playing still?

I did this mock before the Giants cut Plax so id probably have them drafting Kenny Britt from Rutgers here now.

I had the Giants drafting Laurinitus mainly because I have him slipping right now imo and I thought it would be a nice value pick for the Giants. I know they have Pierce but sometimes a player falls and a team decides to take him. They could move Pierce to OLB if they draft Laurinitus imo.

As for the Lions I have them drafting Sanchez instead of Stafford at #1. Hes a QB so I dont udnerstand your point. I think Culpepper is the starter opening day this year anyways. If the Lions draft either of those QBs they will be on the bench come week 1 imo.

If Sanchez is still on the board at 11 (unlikely) I see us leapfrogging the Broncos and going for him

Manchester_Redskin wrote:If Sanchez is still on the board at 11 (unlikely) I see us leapfrogging the Broncos and going for him

What would we offer the Bills at #11?