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Just got off the phone with Phillip Daniels, who told me that he's going to re-sign with the Redskins within a week.

"We're working something out," Daniels said. "I'll be a Redskin this year."

http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/Mar/27/daniels-coming-back/


More depth at DE, no matter what the age = good.[/quote]

Good news.

Very good news.

PulpExposure wrote:Very good news.

Daniels is now a little less than mediocre and utterly unable to take advantage of the greater opportunities Haynesworth will give him. He can easily be pass blocked one on one and is slow to boot. At this point he's a better fit at DE, maybe as a sub for Haynesworth.

Actually, his being on the team won't have an ounce of positive meaning in regard to the standings.

crazyhorse1 wrote:

PulpExposure wrote:Very good news.

Actually, his being on the team won't have an ounce of positive meaning in regard to the standings.

ehh, i'd give it a few ounces.



just sayin'.......

Great....an aging team is going to sign both Daniels and Wynn. It would have been a much better idea to re-sign Evans than to sign Wynn and Daniels. The DE spot is a joke on this team right now.

CanesSkins26 wrote:Great....an aging team is going to sign both Daniels and Wynn. It would have been a much better idea to re-sign Evans than to sign Wynn and Daniels. The DE spot is a joke on this team right now.

Yes, we have several veterans that are starters, but we are far from an aging team. Daniels is an excellent run stopper at the DE position, and can move inside to DT on passing downs. We will most likely still bring in youth, either through the draft or FA to rush the passer from the LDE spot. Wynn is no more than a backup, and will also not be rushing the QB. You guys need to quit being so fatalistic.

crazyhorse1 wrote:

PulpExposure wrote:Very good news.

Daniels is now a little less than mediocre and utterly unable to take advantage of the greater opportunities Haynesworth will give him. He can easily be pass blocked one on one and is slow to boot. At this point he's a better fit at DE, maybe as a sub for Haynesworth.

Actually, his being on the team won't have an ounce of positive meaning in regard to the standings.

I have no doubt that he will not be playing DE on passrushing downs.

We have guys who can rush the passer on 3rd down (Chris Wilson and Rob Jackson). What we didn't have is a guy who could stuff the run on 1st and 2nd down. Now, with Wynn and Daniels, we have two guys who can rotate and fill that need. No, neither one is anything more than a one year fill-in, but it's at least a little more cover than we had before.

CanesSkins26 wrote:Great....an aging team is going to sign both Daniels and Wynn. It would have been a much better idea to re-sign Evans than to sign Wynn and Daniels. The DE spot is a joke on this team right now.

This presumes that Evans would be (a) a solid, every-down player this season, (b) that he had a bright future with the team, and (c) that he's actually a better player than having a Wynn / Daniels rotation.

(A) was never proved before, although he has the chance to show the Redskins were wrong this year, (b) is highly doubtful given his age and the fact that he had never 'blossomed' as a player, and (c) is highly suspect in my view.

What's wrong with a Wynn / Daniels combination for one season? Not ideal, but it seems like a decent stop-gap to me. Mix in Chris Wilson in passing situations and it could hold up well.

We have guys who can rush the passer on 3rd down (Chris Wilson and Rob Jackson).

Wilson and Jackson have a combined 5 career sacks. Jackson has shown zero ability to rush the passer, even in college he only had 6 total sacks.

What's wrong with a Wynn / Daniels combination for one season? Not ideal, but it seems like a decent stop-gap to me. Mix in Chris Wilson in passing situations and it could hold up well.

The problem that I have with it is that both Wynn and Daniels are going to be over 35 years old next season. Wynn isn't very good and Daniels is coming off of a serious injury. There's no telling how good he is going to be or how durable he will be. Jackson didn't show very much in college and I don't expect much from him as a Redskin. Chris Wilson is talented and has a lot of potential imo but he isn't close to an every down DE at his size. Add all of that up and LDE is a serious question mark. Imagine how much trouble we would be in if Carter got hurt next season.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

What's wrong with a Wynn / Daniels combination for one season? Not ideal, but it seems like a decent stop-gap to me. Mix in Chris Wilson in passing situations and it could hold up well.

The problem that I have with it is that both Wynn and Daniels are going to be over 35 years old next season. Wynn isn't very good and Daniels is coming off of a serious injury. There's no telling how good he is going to be or how durable he will be. Jackson didn't show very much in college and I don't expect much from him as a Redskin. Chris Wilson is talented and has a lot of potential imo but he isn't close to an every down DE at his size. Add all of that up and LDE is a serious question mark. Imagine how much trouble we would be in if Carter got hurt next season.

Wynn did have 25 tackles and 2 sacks last season. Our leading DE were Andre and Taylor, who had 3.5 each. I believe that Wynn will be fine.

Why did the skins waive Erasmus James? It seems like they never gave him a chance. Do you any of you guys know what the word on him was?

Native Skin wrote:Why did the skins waive Erasmus James? It seems like they never gave him a chance. Do you any of you guys know what the word on him was?

Something's not right with the kid; the Vikings didn't want him, he had his opportunity in Washington (albeit, small), and the Patriots looked at him in December and passed. Maybe its just as simple as not having the tools.

spudstr04 wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

What's wrong with a Wynn / Daniels combination for one season? Not ideal, but it seems like a decent stop-gap to me. Mix in Chris Wilson in passing situations and it could hold up well.

The problem that I have with it is that both Wynn and Daniels are going to be over 35 years old next season. Wynn isn't very good and Daniels is coming off of a serious injury. There's no telling how good he is going to be or how durable he will be. Jackson didn't show very much in college and I don't expect much from him as a Redskin. Chris Wilson is talented and has a lot of potential imo but he isn't close to an every down DE at his size. Add all of that up and LDE is a serious question mark. Imagine how much trouble we would be in if Carter got hurt next season.

Wynn did have 25 tackles and 2 sacks last season. Our leading DE were Andre and Taylor, who had 3.5 each. I believe that Wynn will be fine.

See the problem is we are going from bad to worse. We didn't improve at the DE position which was our biggest weakness last year.

Cappster wrote:See the problem is we are going from bad to worse. We didn't improve at the DE position which was our biggest weakness last year.

We still have the draft, and who knows what will happen there. As for going from bad to worse...I'd say that's a stretch. If anything, when comparing numbers, we broke even and came out winner's cap wise. Jason Taylor had 29 Tackles and 3.5 Sacks while Wynn had 25 Tackles and 2 Sacks...not much of a difference to say we went from bad to worse. J. Taylor just didn't fit well (no one can deny that), and Wynn's 52 extra pounds will stop the run where J. Taylor was non-existent.

Daniels is a great pickup, a lot better than Wynn in my opinion. He is so strong that nobody pushes him around. I'm really happy we got him for another year (maybe two!).

A pass rush can come from many places...it doesn't have to be our defensive ends. It can be our DT's, up the middle, it can be our linebackers from all over, it can be your strong safety picking a spot.

By adding Haynesworth and pairing him with Griffin, I believe we will see Carter and Daniels getting single covered. This opens them up to make a move and get the pressure. Daniels is one studly run stuffer and that's another important need on our defense. With Fletcher tackling everything that moves and Haynesworth and Griffin taking on 3-4 guys, we'll get plays from all over the defense. We'll be bragging about our DE's next year at this time!

Last year, Evans and Taylor didn't do much for me. Teams ran right at Taylor, as he is NOT a strong side DE. Evans was okay but not great at anything. Daniels is a much better run stopper than him. Carter a better pash rusher and athlete.

At the draft, I 'd like to add a player on defense, like a LB that can make plays for us. Washington didn't do much all year and that hurt us. Add Cushing to our current defense and I'm pretty excited about the unit.

Deadskins wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:Great....an aging team is going to sign both Daniels and Wynn. It would have been a much better idea to re-sign Evans than to sign Wynn and Daniels. The DE spot is a joke on this team right now.

Yes, we have several veterans that are starters, but we are far from an aging team. Daniels is an excellent run stopper at the DE position, and can move inside to DT on passing downs. We will most likely still bring in youth, either through the draft or FA to rush the passer from the LDE spot. Wynn is no more than a backup, and will also not be rushing the QB. You guys need to quit being so fatalistic.

We have four aging linemen on the offensive line and three aging linemen on the defensive line, as well as an aging LB, and an aging backup at DE. We also have a battered star RB, an old fullback, and a No.1 and No.2 receiver who have a serious tendency to look old. Just thought I'd remind you.

fredp45 wrote:Daniels is a great pickup, a lot better than Wynn in my opinion. He is so strong that nobody pushes him around. I'm really happy we got him for another year (maybe two!).

A pass rush can come from many places...it doesn't have to be our defensive ends. It can be our DT's, up the middle, it can be our linebackers from all over, it can be your strong safety picking a spot.

By adding Haynesworth and pairing him with Griffin, I believe we will see Carter and Daniels getting single covered. This opens them up to make a move and get the pressure. Daniels is one studly run stuffer and that's another important need on our defense. With Fletcher tackling everything that moves and Haynesworth and Griffin taking on 3-4 guys, we'll get plays from all over the defense. We'll be bragging about our DE's next year at this time!

Last year, Evans and Taylor didn't do much for me. Teams ran right at Taylor, as he is NOT a strong side DE. Evans was okay but not great at anything. Daniels is a much better run stopper than him. Carter a better pash rusher and athlete.

At the draft, I 'd like to add a player on defense, like a LB that can make plays for us. Washington didn't do much all year and that hurt us. Add Cushing to our current defense and I'm pretty excited about the unit.

Please send me a note on what you're smoking when you imagine Daniels making a move. What I imagine is nobody at all blocking Daniels and him still not getting within five yards of the QB.

Irn-Bru wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:Great....an aging team is going to sign both Daniels and Wynn. It would have been a much better idea to re-sign Evans than to sign Wynn and Daniels. The DE spot is a joke on this team right now.

This presumes that Evans would be (a) a solid, every-down player this season, (b) that he had a bright future with the team, and (c) that he's actually a better player than having a Wynn / Daniels rotation.

(A) was never proved before, although he has the chance to show the Redskins were wrong this year, (b) is highly doubtful given his age and the fact that he had never 'blossomed' as a player, and (c) is highly suspect in my view.

What's wrong with a Wynn / Daniels combination for one season? Not ideal, but it seems like a decent stop-gap to me. Mix in Chris Wilson in passing situations and it could hold up well.

Not to mention Evans' contract with the Niners is more than Daniels and Wynn combined!

CanesSkins26 wrote:

We have guys who can rush the passer on 3rd down (Chris Wilson and Rob Jackson).

Wilson and Jackson have a combined 5 career sacks. Jackson has shown zero ability to rush the passer, even in college he only had 6 total sacks.

Ok, and Evans has a grand total of 13 sacks in 8 NFL seasons!

Cappster wrote:See the problem is we are going from bad to worse. We didn't improve at the DE position which was our biggest weakness last year.

Disagree completely. By far, RT was the biggest weakness we had last year. Even with a hole at LDE, we still were 4th overall in defense.

PulpExposure wrote:

Cappster wrote:See the problem is we are going from bad to worse. We didn't improve at the DE position which was our biggest weakness last year.

Disagree completely. By far, RT was the biggest weakness we had last year. Even with a hole at LDE, we still were 4th overall in defense.

QFT

PulpExposure wrote:

Cappster wrote:See the problem is we are going from bad to worse. We didn't improve at the DE position which was our biggest weakness last year.

Disagree completely. By far, RT was the biggest weakness we had last year. Even with a hole at LDE, we still were 4th overall in defense.

And we can expect improvement from those positions with the acquisition of Hayney.

PulpExposure wrote:

Cappster wrote:See the problem is we are going from bad to worse. We didn't improve at the DE position which was our biggest weakness last year.

Disagree completely. By far, RT was the biggest weakness we had last year. Even with a hole at LDE, we still were 4th overall in defense.

I didn't mean the biggest weakness on the team. I was implying our weakness on defense, but it seems I should have clarified myself. As I have said before, Haynesworth will help, but only if our guys can beat their one on one matchup. I just don't see how we improved our line by going with two old guys. Yes, they have experience, but that will not make up for their diminished skill set. I believe Wynn is a complete waste of a roster spot. Daniels, on the other hand, is strong enough to play DT and I hope that is where he lines up most of the time. I am just curious to see how well his knee holds up over the course of a season.