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Cartoon "Seems" to Link Obama to Chimp

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:27 am
by Cappster
NEW YORK (Feb. 19) - A New York Post cartoon that some have interpreted as comparing President Barack Obama to a violent chimpanzee gunned down by police drew outrage Wednesday from civil rights leaders and elected officials who said it echoed racist stereotypes of blacks as monkeys.
The cartoon in Wednesday's Post by Sean Delonas shows two police officers, one with a smoking gun, standing over the body of a bullet-riddled chimp. The caption reads: "They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill."

The New York Post drew accusations of racism for printing a political cartoon that some have said compares President Barack Obama to a mad chimpanzee. The cartoon, which appeared in Wednesday's newspaper, was playing off an incident involving a chimpanzee that severely mauled a woman and then was shot by police in Connecticut on Monday.

The cartoon refers to a chimpanzee named Travis who was killed Monday by police in Stamford, Conn., after it mauled a friend of its owner.
Some critics called the cartoon racist and said it trivialized a tragedy in which a woman was disfigured and a chimpanzee killed. Others said the cartoon suggests that Obama should be assassinated. Many urged a boycott of the Post and the companies that advertise in it.
"How could the Post let this cartoon pass as satire?" said Barbara Ciara, president of the National Association of Black Journalists. "To compare the nation's first African-American commander in chief to a dead chimpanzee is nothing short of racist drivel."


State Sen. Eric Adams called it a "throwback to the days" when black men were lynched.
The Rev. Al Sharpton called the cartoon "troubling at best given the historic racist attacks of African-Americans as being synonymous with monkeys."
The cartoon set off a furious response against the Post. Its phones rang all day with angry callers. Protesters picketed the tabloid's Manhattan offices, demanding an apology and a boycott and chanting "shut the Post down."
Col Allan, editor-in-chief of the Post, defended the work.
"The cartoon is a clear parody of a current news event, to wit the shooting of a violent chimpanzee in Connecticut," Allan said in a statement. "It broadly mocks Washington's efforts to revive the economy. Again, Al Sharpton reveals himself as nothing more than a publicity opportunist."

The cartoon drew hundreds of comments on the Internet including at the liberal Huffington Post, where columnist Sam Stein wrote: "At its most benign, the cartoon suggests that the stimulus bill was so bad, monkeys may as well have written it. Most provocatively, it compares the president to a rabid chimp."

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs declined comment.
"I have not seen the cartoon," he told reporters aboard Air Force One as Obama returned to Washington from Arizona, where he announced his plan to deal with the foreclosure crisis. "But I don't think it's altogether newsworthy reading the New York Post."
It is not the first time that Delonas, the longtime cartoonist for the Post's Page Six, has raised eyebrows with a heavy-handed caricature.
An earlier Delonas cartoon made fun of Paul McCartney's ex-wife Heather Mills for having only one leg, and another compared gay people seeking marriage licenses to sheep lovers. In a cartoon last month, an enormous Jessica Simpson dumps boyfriend Tony Romo for Ronald McDonald.


Some people are attention whores and Al Sharpton is one of them. Its ok to refer to Bush as an ape cause he is white, but when a reference like this occurs its racism? I don't think the article is even directed at Obama, but somehow because he is half black certain attention whores want to link the cartoon to him. Obama doesn't write legislation; Congress are the ones who writes a bill. People like Sharpton and "civil rights groups" try to keep racism alive and well, because it keeps money flowing into their pockets and keeps them in the spotlight. Its really sad that people can't move on and want to live in the past. Racism is decaying which in turn is taking a hit on their career.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:42 am
by Bob 0119
I just found that cartoon, and to tell you the truth, if Al Sharpton hadn't said anything about it, I never would have seen it, and if I had I never would have made a connection to Obama.

It would appear that Rev. Al is calling Obama a chimp...

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:47 pm
by langleyparkjoe
So who writes the Stimulus Bill? Apparently i'm a dummy who doesn't know, someone please shed some light.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:51 pm
by VetSkinsFan
Last time I checked, I think the Pres just signed it. I took this cartoon as a slight on Congress' inability to get their job done. I asked a few people of various races at work as well, and they didn't make the connection to Obama being symbolized as the chimp.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:49 am
by JansenFan
In answer to your question Joe, the democratic congressonal leadership wrote the bill.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:49 am
by langleyparkjoe
maybe because of past racist comments associating blacks with monkeys/apes I do think its directed at obama. to me and a lot of co-workers here (of all races as well) they see it as the same thing because in the end no matter who officially writes it or signs it, the stimulus bill is still obama's project. moreso i don't agree with the majority of things that sharpton says and some of his views but this time I agree with him 100%. Don't forget on the reverse side of the cartoon, there's a picture of Obama signing the stimulus bill. The only monkey that was shot was the "pet" monkey who went "apes" on its owner and what does that monkey have to do with our economic situation? "It broadly mocks Washington's efforts to revive the economy"... really? Cappster I disagree with you that Sharpton is trying to gather attention here, he's not the only person who is furious about it, and no, it is NOT ok to refer to Bush as an ape when they're other terms that fit him better...like.. idiot for instance. You say they try to keep racism alive, now that is the most ridiculous statement i've seen on this board since i've joined. I'm not trying to match the wrongs because blacks haven't always been on the recieving end but when Obama first ran for the office, a lot of racist whites started their nonsense as well. Just for the record I heard about the story on Hot 99.5, a white disc jokey who was furious about it that ripped New York Post a new you know what on air.. I didn't hear it from Sharpton. Also, if Sharpton didn't say anyting about it, does that mean no one else would've??? to me.. it clearly goes at Obama but whatever, go ahead and do the nonsense, he's still our guy and we should support him the same way we needed to support bush.. and bush wasn't a color issue, he made clear mistakes that he admitted to

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:30 am
by Irn-Bru
That cartoon chimp represented Obama as much as as McCain was the "pig" in "lipstick on a pig." In other words, it's all bull.

The cartoon wasn't funny. Maybe if it had a more obvious point people wouldn't have reached and decided it must have been about Obama. Still, not that the paper deserved to be called racist over it.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:47 am
by VetSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:That cartoon chimp represented Obama as much as as McCain was the "pig" in "lipstick on a pig." In other words, it's all bull.

The cartoon wasn't funny. Maybe if it had a more obvious point people wouldn't have reached and decided it must have been about Obama. Still, not that the paper deserved to be called racist over it.


Without the obvious point (which political cartoons are more commonly guilty of), it's not surprising. This next year or two shall be interesting to say the least.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:51 pm
by Cappster
langleyparkjoe wrote:maybe because of past racist comments associating blacks with monkeys/apes I do think its directed at obama. to me and a lot of co-workers here (of all races as well) they see it as the same thing because in the end no matter who officially writes it or signs it, the stimulus bill is still obama's project. moreso i don't agree with the majority of things that sharpton says and some of his views but this time I agree with him 100%. Don't forget on the reverse side of the cartoon, there's a picture of Obama signing the stimulus bill. The only monkey that was shot was the "pet" monkey who went "apes" on its owner and what does that monkey have to do with our economic situation? "It broadly mocks Washington's efforts to revive the economy"... really? Cappster I disagree with you that Sharpton is trying to gather attention here, he's not the only person who is furious about it, and no, it is NOT ok to refer to Bush as an ape when they're other terms that fit him better...like.. idiot for instance. You say they try to keep racism alive, now that is the most ridiculous statement i've seen on this board since i've joined. I'm not trying to match the wrongs because blacks haven't always been on the recieving end but when Obama first ran for the office, a lot of racist whites started their nonsense as well. Just for the record I heard about the story on Hot 99.5, a white disc jokey who was furious about it that ripped New York Post a new you know what on air.. I didn't hear it from Sharpton. Also, if Sharpton didn't say anyting about it, does that mean no one else would've??? to me.. it clearly goes at Obama but whatever, go ahead and do the nonsense, he's still our guy and we should support him the same way we needed to support bush.. and bush wasn't a color issue, he made clear mistakes that he admitted to


Is it truly ridiculous that I believe Al Sharpton is trying to keep racism alive? Sharpton is a profiteer in that he will use his "cause" to keep lining his pockets with money. If he doesn't have a cause to keep fighting for, the "reverend" is out of a "job." What civil rights does he still have to fight for that aren't already granted? None in my opinion. Blacks/minorities are entitled to the same opportunity as whites are in this Country. Granted, you will have racists that still try undermine society's progress, but I feel they are in the minority and their numbers are shrinking every day. Sharpton is also a big fat hypocrite. Remember how he and his buddy Jesse Jackson came down on the accused in the Duke rape case? When the accused were aquited did you hear them apologize for defaming the character of those boys? No, but they are quick to demand an apology when there is a stupid little cartoon with a dead monkey on it. Case in point:

WALLACE: Well, let me ask you about another case. When those three students charged in the Duke rape case were charged in the case, even after people found holes in the prosecutor's argument, you continued to side with the accuser.

Here's what you told Bill O'Reilly.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SHARPTON: This D.A. is probably not one that is crazy. He would not have proceeded it he did not feel...

BILL O'REILLY, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm not criticizing him.

SHARPTON: ... that he could convict.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WALLACE: Reverend Sharpton, now that all of those students have been found innocent by the state attorney general, will you apologize to the Duke students?

SHARPTON: Mr. Wallace, maybe you played the wrong tape. I think what I said in that tape was that the D.A. is apparently not crazy, and this is what the D.A. said.

You said that you were getting ready to play a tape where I said that this case must be pushed despite the holes in it. That's not what you played. And the reason you didn't play it is because I never said that.

What I said is that the D.A., we felt, brought the charges because — the charges he felt he had evidence for. If the D.A. misled us, you want me to apologize for what, being misled?

WALLACE: Well, one could argue that, in fact, you — a lot of other people were saying let's see what happens in the court case. You were siding with the prosecutor. You were saying he's not crazy.

SHARPTON: No, I said that I did not...

WALLACE: What about the presumption of innocence, Reverend Sharpton?

SHARPTON: Wait, woah, woah.

WALLACE: What about the presumption of innocence, Reverend Sharpton?

SHARPTON: Well, first of all, again, what you are trying to do is compare a man who gets on radio that involved no case, no allegation — nobody said anything about these students — and called them nappy-headed ho's with cases that people — whether it's O.J., whether it's Michael Jackson or anything else — people have a right to take positions on what they believe in a case.

You cannot take an individual case and compare that to people getting on federally regulated broadcast stations and making, for no reason, no context, no accusation, just blanket statements. You're trying to compare apples and oranges.

WALLACE: And, Reverend Sharpton, even after the case has been completely disproved, even after the attorney general in North Carolina has said that it was an overreaching, overzealous prosecutor, you're still not willing to say...

SHARPTON: Oh, absolutely, but...

WALLACE: ... "I, Reverend Sharpton, was wrong, I owe an apology to those students?"

SHARPTON: ... you didn't ask that question. You did not ask that question.

WALLACE: Well, I'm asking it to you now, sir.

SHARPTON: I wish you would, rather than assume my answer. Not only would I said today I think clearly the prosecutor misled us, and that what happened to those young men were horrible, I said it on my show Friday. It said it immediately after it happened.

So to act as though I have not said that is not true. You should have asked that. I've said that as soon as it came down. I said it on my radio program Friday.

But again, you didn't ask that. You assumed an answer and put it in my mouth and then asked me to apologize for it.

WALLACE: I don't think that's exactly what I did. Actually, what I said was now that the attorney general says they're all innocent, do you apologize to the students.

SHARPTON: No. You said will I now...

WALLACE: In any case, Reverend Sharpton, let me ask you one...

SHARPTON: ... do it, as if I had not done it.

WALLACE: Reverend Sharpton, let me ask you one...

SHARPTON: I did it.

WALLACE: ... final question, if I may.

SHARPTON: I will again do it. I did it on Friday.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266213,00.html

You gotta love how he attacks Wallace for the way he asked the question instead of actually answering the question that was asked.

And here is his buddy Jesse:

The Rev. Jesse Jackson said Saturday that his Rainbow/Push Coalition will pay the college tuition for a black stripper who has made rape allegations against white members of Duke University's men's lacrosse team.

And the offer stands even if it turns out she fabricated her story.

Jackson told The Associated Press Saturday that his organization is committed to making sure the 27-year-old divorced mother of two will never again "have to stoop that low to survive."


But in a recent interview with The Associated Press, Jackson said history can't help but loom large over this case. It is particularly horrible because these white men hired black women to strip for them.

"That fantasy's as old as slave masters impregnating young slave girls," he said.

Cheshire found Jackson's comment odd, since the lacrosse players did not specifically ask for black strippers.

"There is no slave-master mentality here, and that's just another perfect example of ... self-absorbed race pandering," Cheshire said.


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1091599/

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I feel that we are going to have to hear about race the whole time Obama is in office. God forbid if SNL does a parity of Obama and offend somebody, but they probably will and we all will have to hear about for weeks on end. I just feel that every time that anyone can remotely associate a newspaper article or anything else that is negative about our government the race card will be pulled. I personally am just sick and tired of the "poor old me" mentality. Too many people are living in the past no matter how much we are trying to move forward. Not to mention that the "white man" is always painted as the big fat racist that hate black people.

Maybe I think too differently than other people as I don't get offended to easily. I just think people tend to see the negative aspect of anything and ignore the true meaning of what it was intended to be. One thing that does get under my skin is the fact that everyone refers to Obama as being black. Does being black override his other ethnicity? I think to myself, since my son is mixed (half white/half black), what if they just view him as being "African American" because that would be a false statement as is Barack Obama being an African American. Is my son not made up with 50% of my genes? Does half of his ancestry just not exist because black overrides white (I actually have Indian in my family too)? We as a society need to drop the race crap and have all of us be known as Americans. Sadly, I don't think that will ever happen.

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:55 am
by Fios
It may not be intentionally racist but it is stupid. It also is not terribly surprising given the cartoonist and the paper involved.

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:59 am
by Countertrey
The new paradigm...

Caricature Congress... you are a racist

Caricature the Senate... you are a racist

Caricature Obama... you are a racist

If Obama truly gets it, he will shut this crap down. That's not likely, sooo...

Prepare for 4 years of pandering to the race baiters.

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:45 pm
by Fios
Countertrey wrote:The new paradigm...

Caricature Congress... you are a racist

Caricature the Senate... you are a racist

Caricature Obama... you are a racist

If Obama truly gets it, he will shut this crap down. That's not likely, sooo...

Prepare for 4 years of pandering to the race baiters.


Here is the totality of the White House response, which came earlier this week:

Robert Gibbs, White House press secretary, declined comment. “I have not seen the cartoon,” he told reporters aboard Air Force One as Mr Obama returned to Washington. “But I don’t think it’s altogether newsworthy reading the New York Post.”


Where do you see race-baiting in that reply?

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:31 pm
by Countertrey
Fios wrote:
Countertrey wrote:The new paradigm...

Caricature Congress... you are a racist

Caricature the Senate... you are a racist

Caricature Obama... you are a racist

If Obama truly gets it, he will shut this crap down. That's not likely, sooo...

Prepare for 4 years of pandering to the race baiters.


Here is the totality of the White House response, which came earlier this week:

Robert Gibbs, White House press secretary, declined comment. “I have not seen the cartoon,” he told reporters aboard Air Force One as Mr Obama returned to Washington. “But I don’t think it’s altogether newsworthy reading the New York Post.”


Where do you see race-baiting in that reply?


I don't... but (consistent with the very clear statement in my post...), I don't see him telling them to knock it off, either... do you? If you can point out where I suggest that Obama or the White House would do the "baiting" (as you allude in your reply) please feel free to do so.

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:34 pm
by MDSKINSFAN
Maybe the cartoonist was referring to Congress members as stupid monkeys who have done a horrible job of handling the economy and have completely butchered the economy like that monkey did to that woman? That was my first thought. When I saw the cartoon I didn't even think of it as a reference to Obama but hey Sharpton has been quiet since the big Imus incident so he needed some attention.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:50 am
by tcwest10
I saw it when it ran in the paper, and never once thought about it in racist terms.
I thought the first group to express any outrage would be PETA.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:19 pm
by Fios
Countertrey wrote:
Fios wrote:
Countertrey wrote:The new paradigm...

Caricature Congress... you are a racist

Caricature the Senate... you are a racist

Caricature Obama... you are a racist

If Obama truly gets it, he will shut this crap down. That's not likely, sooo...

Prepare for 4 years of pandering to the race baiters.


Here is the totality of the White House response, which came earlier this week:

Robert Gibbs, White House press secretary, declined comment. “I have not seen the cartoon,” he told reporters aboard Air Force One as Mr Obama returned to Washington. “But I don’t think it’s altogether newsworthy reading the New York Post.”


Where do you see race-baiting in that reply?


I don't... but (consistent with the very clear statement in my post...), I don't see him telling them to knock it off, either... do you? If you can point out where I suggest that Obama or the White House would do the "baiting" (as you allude in your reply) please feel free to do so.


Come on man, that's splitting hairs, if they are pandering to race-baiting they are tacitly endorsing it. I don't know how much more you can ask than "I don’t think it’s altogether newsworthy reading the New York Post" as far as a "this story is not worth it" response.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:09 pm
by Irn-Bru
It's not incumbent upon Obama to denounce every idiot that makes an unfounded claim on his behalf. Simply not responding is fine.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:15 pm
by tcwest10
I wish I were sophisicated enough read between the lines in this cartoon so that I, too, could share in this heated debate.
With my very average IQ and complete lack of saavy in all things racial/political, all I could see was, "Hey, this cartoonist thinks the stimulus bill was so clumsy and hasty, a chimp could've done it."
Honestly, people. When was the last time anybody seriously compared blacks to primates? For Christs sake, we've just elected a man of color to the highest post in the free world! By a huge margin!
Freedom of speech lives and breathes here in America, but so too does the hypersensitivity and the social imperative of jumping to conclusions.
Occam's Razor, please. It's not always a complicated message conveyed by a cartoonist.
Sometimes, it's just that the cartoonist thinks something sucks.
By the way, IMHO...Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are finished as spokesmen for people of color. We are now all equally represented by our new President, who needs no help from them. Jesse has mooched far too long on MLK's legacy (his photograph on the infamous balcony), and Al Sharpton is a parody of a civil rights activist and not ready for Prime Time. There are still lives ruined by his 'work' in the Tawana Brawley incident (one of whom is a casual acquaintance) some 25 years ago, and his treatment of Don Imus was inappropriate for a man whose own reputation has been sullied for decades.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:49 pm
by Cappster
tcwest10 wrote:I wish I were sophisicated enough read between the lines in this cartoon so that I, too, could share in this heated debate.
With my very average IQ and complete lack of saavy in all things racial/political, all I could see was, "Hey, this cartoonist thinks the stimulus bill was so clumsy and hasty, a chimp could've done it."
Honestly, people. When was the last time anybody seriously compared blacks to primates? For Christs sake, we've just elected a man of color to the highest post in the free world! By a huge margin!
Freedom of speech lives and breathes here in America, but so too does the hypersensitivity and the social imperative of jumping to conclusions.
Occam's Razor, please. It's not always a complicated message conveyed by a cartoonist.
Sometimes, it's just that the cartoonist thinks something sucks.
By the way, IMHO...Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are finished as spokesmen for people of color. We are now all equally represented by our new President, who needs no help from them. Jesse has mooched far too long on MLK's legacy (his photograph on the infamous balcony), and Al Sharpton is a parody of a civil rights activist and not ready for Prime Time. There are still lives ruined by his 'work' in the Tawana Brawley incident (one of whom is a casual acquaintance) some 25 years ago, and his treatment of Don Imus was inappropriate for a man whose own reputation has been sullied for decades.


You need to give yourself more credit. You seem to be a person that thinks with logic. I agree with what you said for what it is worth. I too think that a lot of people are hypersensitive. You can look at the election of Obama as a sign that racism is dying and so should the poor old me mentality. A man or woman of any race, ethnicity, color, and/or background can do anything he or she ____ well pleases if they work hard enough. Its the people who made their living off of inequality who try to keep the unequal mindset in those who cannot see that all things are equal.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:07 pm
by Countertrey
Fios wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
Fios wrote:
Countertrey wrote:The new paradigm...

Caricature Congress... you are a racist

Caricature the Senate... you are a racist

Caricature Obama... you are a racist

If Obama truly gets it, he will shut this crap down. That's not likely, sooo...

Prepare for 4 years of pandering to the race baiters.


Here is the totality of the White House response, which came earlier this week:

Robert Gibbs, White House press secretary, declined comment. “I have not seen the cartoon,” he told reporters aboard Air Force One as Mr Obama returned to Washington. “But I don’t think it’s altogether newsworthy reading the New York Post.”


Where do you see race-baiting in that reply?


I don't... but (consistent with the very clear statement in my post...), I don't see him telling them to knock it off, either... do you? If you can point out where I suggest that Obama or the White House would do the "baiting" (as you allude in your reply) please feel free to do so.


Come on man, that's splitting hairs, if they are pandering to race-baiting they are tacitly endorsing it. I don't know how much more you can ask than "I don’t think it’s altogether newsworthy reading the New York Post" as far as a "this story is not worth it" response.


Sooo... you can't respond. What I would ASK is that he suggests to Rev'rend Al that he is doing more harm than good, rather than (clearly) tacitly agree with Rev'rend Al that the agenda of the Post was a racial slap.

To fail to say to Al "shut up" is no more helpful than to fail to openly confront ACTUAL racism.



Thank you.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:29 pm
by Countertrey
Irn-Bru wrote:It's not incumbent upon Obama to denounce every idiot that makes an unfounded claim on his behalf.


True... on the other hand, this isn't just "every" idiot. It is the king of all race baiters, Rev'rund Al, that we are talking about, here.


Simply not responding is fine.


Well, who has the "bully" pulpit? I would disagree. Unlike every previous President, Obama is, like it or not, uniquely positioned to truly move this agenda.

Does Obama truly want to foster an effective dialog on race? Or does he want Al to frame the dialog for him?

I would simply note that Obama has used the power of his remarkable rhetorical skills in the past to confront and denounce similar race baiting. He himself set the bar when he denounced his long time friend, Jerimiah Wright. Why would he not do so now, when it is truly important? My point is, I believe that, as most Americans, he does not see the chimp in the same manner as the Rev does. Why would he not confront the hazard such baiting represents? He HAS done so in the past. HE established the standard.

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:13 am
by Deadskins
Yawn

Who is doing more race baiting here, Al Sharpton, or those "news" organizations that run to him for comment every time some story, even remotely involving race, arises?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:59 pm
by Countertrey
Deadskins wrote:Yawn

Who is doing more race baiting here, Al Sharpton, or those "news" organizations that run to him for comment every time some story, even remotely involving race, arises?


Fine. You're OK with the status quo. I'm not.

Clearly, the press and Sharpton need each other. Who is the one person best positioned to do something about it? But, never mind... you're just fine with the way things are.

If the topic bores you... why comment?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:30 pm
by Bob 0119
Tar Baby was used to describe a "sticky situation" that the more you dealt with the harder it became to get away from long before it was used to describe people of darker brown complexion.

Spook is used to describe CIA operatives, but we can't use that either since it has been used to describe people of darker brown complexion.

Chris Cooley is going to have to get his name changed as it could be seen as offensive.

Koons of Manassas will also have to change their name (even though it is named after the owner) because it sounds too much like 'Coons.

My brother-in-law can no longer properly refer to his relationship to his dad's brother Tom. God forbid he say "Uncle Tom" in public, people might think he's refering to a person of darker brown complexion.

It's this kind of crap that results in City Concil members being offended by terms like "black hole" without stopping to think "hey, maybe they are referring to the fact that a black hole IS BLACK and not just trying to pin something negative to my race."

And even for the sake of arguement, let's assume the monkey depicted in the article WAS supposed to be Obama; so what? What, is the white man going to keep him down? Maybe he won't be President someday?

Would the cartoon have been okay if it were drawn by a black man? Then we would know that he wasn't referring to Obama, since he was black himself and would never do anything racist ('cuz that's something only white people do)?

Guess what? Obama is president, and for the next four years, there will be plenty of things said, done, and drawn about him that are negative. He will have to do the same as all the other Presidents before him...get over it.

Which, to his credit, I believe he has. He is now the "leader of the free-world" and I'm sure he's got more to worry about than some stupid cartoon.

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:18 pm
by Cappster
It's this kind of crap that results in City Council members being offended by terms like "black hole" without stopping to think "hey, maybe they are referring to the fact that a black hole IS BLACK and not just trying to pin something negative to my race."


I remember watching that on youtube. It truly does show the ignorance of people in reference to what some of our fellow Americans construe as racism. It is utterly ridiculous that we as a society have so many problems, because of skin pigmentation.

Do I have the right to be upset and be on tv to demand an apology if a black weather man (or woman) say that a snowstorm will be a "white out?"

Yeah, that is truly ridiculous.