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Hey Devon Thomas.....WHATEVER............!!!

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:54 pm
by tribeofjudah
Now the rookie speaks up. Yes, he still a "rookie" in my eyes and many other people's eyes too....

Why wasn’t Thomas, the Redskins’ top pick in the NFL Draft last April, as involved in the Redskins’ offense?

Posed the question, Thomas said he believes that every situation is different for rookies

Jackson and Royal were put in situations where they had to start early in their careers, he said.

Thomas had time to learn and work his way into the lineup behind veteran starters Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El.

“People are going to make their judgments about me, but it’s a tough learning curve and you have to figure things out,” he said. “My situation was totally different from the other rookies. But I have the offseason to get things right and get ready for next year.

“I’m anxious to take what I learned last year and just hit the ground running.”

Thomas played in all 16 games as a rookie last season, mostly serving as a third receiver, and finished with 15 catches for 120 yards.



Talk is cheap and will be cheap if you don't start producing....PAL..!!!
http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Th ... _31000.jsp

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:59 pm
by El Mexican
Just don't transform into Taylor Jacobs. We can start from there.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:59 pm
by PulpExposure
El Mexican wrote:Just don't transform into Taylor Jacobs. We can start from there.


At least Thomas actually plays with some ferocity. Taylor Jacobs was the most passive NFL player (on the field) that I've ever seen. I don't think I ever, ever saw him fight for a ball.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:33 pm
by tribeofjudah
PulpExposure wrote:
El Mexican wrote:Just don't transform into Taylor Jacobs. We can start from there.


At least Thomas actually plays with some ferocity. Taylor Jacobs was the most passive NFL player (on the field) that I've ever seen. I don't think I ever, ever saw him fight for a ball.


Been a Skins fan for 30 yrs and I just don't remember who Jacobs was/is and don't remember his face. It just proves that he was a NO IMPACT kind of player...

When was he with the Skins...? Nevermind, I will look it up.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:48 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Devon wrote: “My situation was totally different from the other rookies. But I have the offseason to get things right and get ready for next year.

Would anyone care for me to translate?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:17 pm
by El Mexican
To JUDAH: Jacobs was drafted under Spurrier in the SECOND round of the 2003 draft, 44th pick.

The guys drafted last year can start by setting their standard above Jacobs, IMO. Then Rod Gardner. I can't remember any other recent WR taken in the high rounds of the draft, not now at least.

Re: Hey Devon Thomas.....WHATEVER............!!!

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:47 pm
by jeremyroyce
tribeofjudah wrote:Now the rookie speaks up. Yes, he still a "rookie" in my eyes and many other people's eyes too....

Why wasn’t Thomas, the Redskins’ top pick in the NFL Draft last April, as involved in the Redskins’ offense?

Posed the question, Thomas said he believes that every situation is different for rookies

Jackson and Royal were put in situations where they had to start early in their careers, he said.

Thomas had time to learn and work his way into the lineup behind veteran starters Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El.

“People are going to make their judgments about me, but it’s a tough learning curve and you have to figure things out,” he said. “My situation was totally different from the other rookies. But I have the offseason to get things right and get ready for next year.

“I’m anxious to take what I learned last year and just hit the ground running.”

Thomas played in all 16 games as a rookie last season, mostly serving as a third receiver, and finished with 15 catches for 120 yards.



Talk is cheap and will be cheap if you don't start producing....PAL..!!!
http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Th ... _31000.jsp


Dude, just relax. Cut the guy some slack. Let's give him another year and let's see what he can do.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:30 pm
by Trample the Elderly
Hmmmm?

Isn't he the slacker that over-slept the first day of training camp or was that one of the other rookies?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:37 pm
by Countertrey
Trample the Elderly wrote:Hmmmm?

Isn't he the slacker that over-slept the first day of training camp or was that one of the other rookies?


That was Davis.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:02 pm
by VetSkinsFan
Countertrey wrote:
Trample the Elderly wrote:Hmmmm?

Isn't he the slacker that over-slept the first day of training camp or was that one of the other rookies?


That was Davis.


Nice negative connotation...

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:41 pm
by PulpExposure
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Devon wrote: “My situation was totally different from the other rookies. But I have the offseason to get things right and get ready for next year.

Would anyone care for me to translate?


I.e., I actually got to play this year?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:46 pm
by Skinsfan55
What did he say that was wrong?

After that JLC article saying he was moody and not a hard worker, I was kinda worried. He's showing some maturity IMO by saying he's learned a lot and can't wait for training camp.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:26 pm
by Deadskins
PulpExposure wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Devon wrote: “My situation was totally different from the other rookies. But I have the offseason to get things right and get ready for next year.

Would anyone care for me to translate?


I.e., I actually got to play this year?

Yeah, but that second sentence reads: I didn't work very hard, though, and never did get the whole "route" thing down, but now I've got the entire off-season to learn my playbook. Before he knows it, summer's gonna be here, and he'll be right back in the same situation; he partied all term and now he has to cram for finals again. :?

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:02 am
by ChocolateMilk
JSPB22 wrote:
PulpExposure wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Devon wrote: “My situation was totally different from the other rookies. But I have the offseason to get things right and get ready for next year.

Would anyone care for me to translate?


I.e., I actually got to play this year?

Yeah, but that second sentence reads: I didn't work very hard, though, and never did get the whole "route" thing down, but now I've got the entire off-season to learn my playbook. Before he knows it, summer's gonna be here, and he'll be right back in the same situation; he partied all term and now he has to cram for finals again. :?
how did you get that?

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:58 am
by fredp45
Give all three of the rookies a break. Rarely do (20-22 year olds) WRs come into the league ready to excel. Like QB, WR is a hard position to pick up as it's not entirely about instincts, agression, toughness, good hands, it's about route running, adjusting, being on the same wavelength as your QB...

With respect to:

Royal -- he played on a team where they threw the ball around because their defense sucked.

Jackson -- Okay, who else do the Eagles have at WR? Plus, remember the game vs us where he dropped two passes, one in the endzone?

A couple great WRs in the league now -- A. Johnson with the Texans is possibly the best WR in the NFL, it took him a few years. C. Johnson with the Lions wasn't pro-bowl his first year.

If any of you expected a lot out of them immediately, then of course you'd be disappointed but I posted warnings on this board to NOT expect much the first year. Which is exactly why I never would have taken 3 WR's/TE's that early, Zorn was saddled with 3 guys who wouldn't be ready to help and were in essence, "in training."

One WR would have been fine. With the other 2 picks, take other positions, e.g., LB, CB, OL, DT, where the player could have offered something this year. The two best drafting franchises in the league IMO are the Steelers and the Pats -- would those teams have drafted 2 Wr's and 1 TE with their first three picks? NO FREAKING WAY. I do think all 3 could be good players someday but you must take an assortment of players in a draft and having 3 guys learning how to play WR, at the same time makes no sense. It's almost what a building team would do and I don't see the SKins as a building team with the age of our lineman.

Don't blame the players, blame the FO for making the picks.

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:55 am
by BurgundyandGoldfaith
Why couldn't you at least give him all the credit the article gave, he did have a 29yard reverse TD and other running yards. Anyone else on the team take it in from 20yds or more?

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:41 am
by Deadskins
ChocolateMilk wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:
PulpExposure wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Devon wrote: “My situation was totally different from the other rookies. But I have the offseason to get things right and get ready for next year.

Would anyone care for me to translate?


I.e., I actually got to play this year?

Yeah, but that second sentence reads: I didn't work very hard, though, and never did get the whole "route" thing down, but now I've got the entire off-season to learn my playbook. Before he knows it, summer's gonna be here, and he'll be right back in the same situation; he partied all term and now he has to cram for finals again. :?
how did you get that?

My second sentence is purely conjecture, due to my perceived lack of effort on Devin's part. But since his second sentence is: "But I have the offseason to get things right and get ready for next year," I don't think I'm too far off the mark.

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:46 pm
by PulpExposure
JSPB22 wrote:
ChocolateMilk wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:
PulpExposure wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Devon wrote: “My situation was totally different from the other rookies. But I have the offseason to get things right and get ready for next year.

Would anyone care for me to translate?


I.e., I actually got to play this year?

Yeah, but that second sentence reads: I didn't work very hard, though, and never did get the whole "route" thing down, but now I've got the entire off-season to learn my playbook. Before he knows it, summer's gonna be here, and he'll be right back in the same situation; he partied all term and now he has to cram for finals again. :?
how did you get that?

My second sentence is purely conjecture, due to my perceived lack of effort on Devin's part. But since his second sentence is: "But I have the offseason to get things right and get ready for next year," I don't think I'm too far off the mark.


I actually read it the opposite of how you read it. I think he walked into training camp last year thinking it was just like college; after this season, he's realized that he needs to work to prepare for the season in the offseason, and he's going to do it right this time.

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:56 pm
by Deadskins
I agree with your assessment, just not that it is the opposite of mine. It should not have taken him until after the season to realize the difference.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:20 am
by Chris Luva Luva
PulpExposure wrote:I.e., I actually got to play this year?


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Devon wrote: “My situation was totally different from the other rookies.


He's saying that he wasn't given a chance to do those things. In the second part he tends to take some ownership of why he didn't get much time. However, it's apparent that he feels that he could have contributed more and I agree with him 100%

Let's not forget here, this lockerroom is split among the vets too. So it's not just a rookie thing, many players were rubbed wrong about many different things. So it's not just Devon feeling this way. He has a valid point.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:58 am
by spudstr04
From what I heard about Devin Thomas, is that he was a bit of a party-er his 1st year. Hopefully he can get that out of his system, it took Roddy White 3 years to get it out of his and now he is a pro-bowl caliber wide-out. I am not complaring DT to RW, just saying that it takes some time for WR to learn the playbook and produce.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:15 pm
by PulpExposure
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Let's not forget here, this lockerroom is split among the vets too. So it's not just a rookie thing, many players were rubbed wrong about many different things. So it's not just Devon feeling this way. He has a valid point.


Heh. I was being facetious. However, you say the "locker room is split"? I haven't heard that...do you have anything I could read on it? If that's true, that's not good at all.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:35 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
PulpExposure wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Let's not forget here, this lockerroom is split among the vets too. So it's not just a rookie thing, many players were rubbed wrong about many different things. So it's not just Devon feeling this way. He has a valid point.


Heh. I was being facetious. However, you say the "locker room is split"? I haven't heard that...do you have anything I could read on it? If that's true, that's not good at all.


You have people who side with CP but just not how he goes stating it. Shawn Springs recently echoed similar sentiments to Portis but in a more tactful way and even admonished Portis for how he went about it.

You have players in who in a recent thread don't agree with how the front office is run. They openly mock it and question their decision making. Springs also touched on this when he stated that both lines need major revamping and that is NOT an issue that revealed itself for the 1st time this year.

There is discontentment within the ranks of players. Some feel more strongly than others. The quotes are out there if you look for them, so is the evidence. If people want to pretend like everything is honky dorry at Redskin Park, be my guest, I could not care less.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:04 am
by ChocolateMilk
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
PulpExposure wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Let's not forget here, this lockerroom is split among the vets too. So it's not just a rookie thing, many players were rubbed wrong about many different things. So it's not just Devon feeling this way. He has a valid point.


Heh. I was being facetious. However, you say the "locker room is split"? I haven't heard that...do you have anything I could read on it? If that's true, that's not good at all.


You have people who side with CP but just not how he goes stating it. Shawn Springs recently echoed similar sentiments to Portis but in a more tactful way and even admonished Portis for how he went about it.

You have players in who in a recent thread don't agree with how the front office is run. They openly mock it and question their decision making. Springs also touched on this when he stated that both lines need major revamping and that is NOT an issue that revealed itself for the 1st time this year.

There is discontentment within the ranks of players. Some feel more strongly than others. The quotes are out there if you look for them, so is the evidence. If people want to pretend like everything is honky dorry at Redskin Park, be my guest, I could not care less.
man...... that sucks

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:42 pm
by roybus14
"Wild Child" will be fine if he puts in the physical work and classroom work. He has to tools to become a threat.

He, JC and Kelly need to start working out early and often....