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A Thin Line Between Love and Hate -- LONG Read

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:11 pm
by BigRedskinDaddy
Every once in a while, in the midst of some quiet reverie, my thoughts drift -- of course -- to my life's obsession. My alpha and omega, my reason for being. The Washington Redskins

Almost invariably at times like these I will count back through the years to when I became a fan. I don't know precisely how old I was, but I do know I was very young. When you're in your forties and you fell in love with your team somewhere between seven and nine years old, you've got some tenure. You've put in some time. I'm now working on my fourth decade, and my passion is every bit as strong as it's always been, if not more so

Like most fans, I suppose, I have had my good and bad years. There have been periods of time when I was at least as hardcore, as knowledgeable, as walk-through-fire fanatical as anybody out there. There have also been periods when I follow my team rather perfunctorily, with a detached interest, because right then and there I have far more pressing things in my life to deal with. Also, in the interests of full disclosure, I have to admit that while the day will never dawn that I no longer bleed Burgundy and sweat Gold, my fandom waned a little during the dark years of the mid 90's and early 2000's. It's insidiously easy to let your passion for anything lose a lot of it's importance when you pour your heart and soul into it year after year, and get virtually nothing but disappointment and heartache in return

As I said, most of you can probably relate. It depends on the person, of course, but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that nearly all of you who have been hardcore fans for at least 15 years have gone through something similar. What is my point, you ask? Simply this: all things considered, I am and have always been somewhere between a casual and the most diehard fan

I have more shirts, jerseys, and memorabilia than those who call themselves fans mainly because their significant other has always been an ultimate fan...but not nearly as much as those who set aside an entire room of their home as a shrine to Burgundy and Gold.

I know more Redskins history and trivia than those fans who live in or near D.C. and root for the nearest team to them...but not as much as the person who owns every book ever written about the 'Skins, and is always among the first to buy special DVD collections of Greatest Games or Super Bowl Years in Review.

I know more about the nuances of the game, the battles within the battle, than your average armchair quarterback -- even one who played the game in his youth ..but not as much as those who coach and teach the game to kids at any amateur level.

In short, I'm somewhere in the middle of the pack as a Redskins fan. A little more intense than most... but not as into it as some. As a fan, I am, in the immortal words of the legendary Joe Walsh, just an ordinary, average guy.

Nowadays, any questions I have about my team can be answered in minutes via the miracle of the Internet. There is literally nothing about the team, from their storied history (including game results from every season they've played) all the way down to the most mundane information about transportation to and from their stadium, that I can't have at my fingertips with no effort at all. As a result I find myself, having followed my team for at least 33 or 34 years, more informed than I've ever been as a fan. Thanks to electronic communities like ExtremeSkins, for example, I can discuss anything about my 'Skins with my fellow fans. I learn something new almost every day about the franchise I've followed nearly my whole life, and will follow until the day I die.

It's truly amazing. Short of attending every home game like so many I've met who live in or around the Washington area, I feel as connected to the team and it's daily operations as I've ever been. As connected as the beat writers who make a living writing about the team daily, and know their way around Redskins Park like the back of their hands. All while living 3,000 miles away, on the other side of the continent -- as far as one can be and still live on the mainland of the United States.

As recently as three or four years ago I never dreamed that I would one day be so "in the loop" where the 'Skins are concerned. I never envisioned being aware of everything the team is doing outside of the locker room and team meetings, down to the smallest detail. When a Redskins star sneezes I'm damn near right there to offer him a handkerchief. Not in my wildest, most feverish Indian-head flights of fancy did I see this day coming.

And that's a very good thing. Because believe you me, if I had, I would've run the other way so far and so fast that it never would have caught me.

I dislike adages, maxims, call them what you will: so-called "truisms" that have been twisted and re-arranged so far from their original state that they are usually anything but. Nevertheless, a few still hold true, and carry a weight of wisdom even today. One such is the short phrase "ignorance is bliss." I don't know that I've ever really paid any attention to that saying, but I do now. In fact, I find myself mentally reciting it more and more these days. You see, all those years when I worshipped the coaches and players, and cheered the team on from afar, I was happy not knowing.

Not knowing that with one shining exception, the entire incoming crop of 2008 rookies has made about as much impact on any single game this season as the parking valets outside FedEx Field.

Not knowing that the offensive and defensive lines are so old, banged-up and just plain un-talented, that the team's potential franchise player, a 6'5", 233 lb man with a guided missile platform for a right arm and quicks to boot, is in danger of suffering a career-ending injury just about every time he drops back to pass.

Not knowing that the shining monument to one man's ego that the 'Skins now call home, a stadium that isn't even in the District at all, is so outrageously priced that certain opponents, such as the Steelers three weeks ago, can almost turn it into their home game by virtue of the thousands of terrible towel-waving fans who too easily got tickets to what was clearly one of the biggest games of this year the day the schedule came out.

Not knowing that the front office, until very recently, behaved a lot like a spoiled child born into a wealthy family -- impulsive, domineering, short-sighted, and tempermental -- more and more so with each year and each failed big-name acquisition.

All things being equal, I think if I had my choice I'd go back to those yester years, when I was lucky to see the Redskins on T.V. 5-6 times a year if they were winning. The days when my eyes would constantly scan the bottom ticker or upper right-hand corner of the screen during whatever teams I happened to be watching for scoring updates of their games, and I would eagerly rip the rubber-band off Monday's newspaper in my haste to open the Sports section and read the single measly column, no more than 4 paragraphs long, about the Redskins game that Sunday.

At least that way I could just be a fan, a guy who loved his team and believed they would win each and every Sunday no matter what. A guy who wasn't somehow so informed yet at the same time so unfamiliar with his favorite NFL team. Just a normal guy who wanted the best for his team, but understood deep down that his best probably wasn't going to happen for them, and kept on hoping for it anyway.

Just some dumb fan...

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:42 pm
by El Mexican
I feel you, man.

Great points yo make here.

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:36 am
by skinfaninla20
word

Re: A Thin Line Between Love and Hate -- LONG Read

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:38 am
by absinthe1023
BigRedskinDaddy wrote:Thanks to electronic communities like ExtremeSkins, for example, I can discuss anything about my 'Skins with my fellow fans.


Oops......probably should have edited this epic tome prior to posting it on multiple websites :lol:

Kinda like a band screaming "Helllooooo Cleeeeevelandddd!!!!" only to realize a moment too late that they're in Detroit.... :lol:

Re: A Thin Line Between Love and Hate -- LONG Read

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:34 am
by BigRedskinDaddy
absinthe1023 wrote:Oops......probably should have edited this epic tome prior to posting it on multiple websites :lol:

Kinda like a band screaming "Helllooooo Cleeeeevelandddd!!!!" only to realize a moment too late that they're in Detroit.... :lol:


Why should it be edited? ES is one of the Redskins MB's that I frequent to discuss my team, just as the Hogs.net is. There are several others as well, hence the "for example" at the tail end of the sentence in question.

I often post such things on multiple boards in order to get as much feedback as possible. Maybe it's just me, but if I were to subtly tailor each one for specific forums as if it were unique to that forum, THEN I might feel like I was plagiarizing myself or otherwise post-whoring somehow.

You may feel I have blundered by not removing or substituting this board's name for ES; I don't. I make no bones about frequenting both. What's more, I'm not the only one to do so. This board operates differently than its counterpart does, and it's discussions tend to go in different directions. As far as I'm concerned that makes it neither better or worse than that "other" board -- just different.

Tell you what: I'll make it a point to reference THN the next time I write another of my "epic tomes." Maybe then I'll get a response a little deeper than the equivalent of "Dude, you so blew it!" on your end.

Then again, if the points I thought I was trying to make were so easily rendered invisible in your eyes by what you consider to be a typo...probably not.

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:58 pm
by welch
It's fine, BRD. We know Hogs Net is the best place to be, but we admit that there are other Redskin boards.

Re: A Thin Line Between Love and Hate -- LONG Read

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:14 pm
by absinthe1023
BigRedskinDaddy wrote:
absinthe1023 wrote:Oops......probably should have edited this epic tome prior to posting it on multiple websites :lol:

Kinda like a band screaming "Helllooooo Cleeeeevelandddd!!!!" only to realize a moment too late that they're in Detroit.... :lol:


Why should it be edited? ES is one of the Redskins MB's that I frequent to discuss my team, just as the Hogs.net is. There are several others as well, hence the "for example" at the tail end of the sentence in question.

I often post such things on multiple boards in order to get as much feedback as possible. Maybe it's just me, but if I were to subtly tailor each one for specific forums as if it were unique to that forum, THEN I might feel like I was plagiarizing myself or otherwise post-whoring somehow.

You may feel I have blundered by not removing or substituting this board's name for ES; I don't. I make no bones about frequenting both. What's more, I'm not the only one to do so. This board operates differently than its counterpart does, and it's discussions tend to go in different directions. As far as I'm concerned that makes it neither better or worse than that "other" board -- just different.

Tell you what: I'll make it a point to reference THN the next time I write another of my "epic tomes." Maybe then I'll get a response a little deeper than the equivalent of "Dude, you so blew it!" on your end.

Then again, if the points I thought I was trying to make were so easily rendered invisible in your eyes by what you consider to be a typo...probably not.


Whoa.....easy big guy. No need to get up. I just thought it was humorous that this was posted here, yet specifically mentioned another fansite. For that reason, I found the post amusing.

Personally, I could really care less whether you read about the Redskins here, there, Warpath, redskins.com, or anywhere else for that matter. It also doesn't make your post more relevant if you mention thehogs.net to the exclusion of any other site, so I do think you went quite wide of the mark if that's how you interpreted my post.

Additionally, I'll respond freely to any post I choose and in any manner I choose that falls within the guidelines established by the board rules. Your post can be classified as an extensive rambling puff piece rather than an analytical, thought-provoking item, so my response to it seems entirely justified. You can, of course, disagree; that's what makes the world (and messageboards) go 'round.

Re: A Thin Line Between Love and Hate -- LONG Read

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:50 pm
by BigRedskinDaddy
absinthe1023 wrote:Additionally, I'll respond freely to any post I choose and in any manner I choose that falls within the guidelines established by the board rules. Your post can be classified as an extensive rambling puff piece rather than an analytical, thought-provoking item, so my response to it seems entirely justified. You can, of course, disagree; that's what makes the world (and messageboards) go 'round.


I wouldn't have it any other way. If you felt it was a certifiable waste of reading time, then I apologize. I'm confident you won't make the same mistake with one of my posts again.

More of a win/win than anything else, I think...

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:18 pm
by Fios
BigRedskinDaddy wrote:
absinthe1023 wrote:Additionally, I'll respond freely to any post I choose and in any manner I choose that falls within the guidelines established by the board rules. Your post can be classified as an extensive rambling puff piece rather than an analytical, thought-provoking item, so my response to it seems entirely justified. You can, of course, disagree; that's what makes the world (and messageboards) go 'round.


I wouldn't have it any other way. If you felt it was a certifiable waste of reading time, then I apologize. I'm confident you won't make the same mistake with one of my posts again.

More of a win/win than anything else, I think...
Fellas, this is getting pretty far afield of the initial topic, neither of you are technically violating the site rules by addressing one another and not the topic but you are ignoring the spirit of the rule.

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:00 am
by chiefhog44
BRD,

I feel ya man. If I don't get back to being a casual fan quick, I am going to have a heart attack like that dude from Pittsburgh had when Bettis fumbled on the one yard line in the AFC championship game against Indy a few years back.

Unfortunately, I don't see it happenin.

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:29 am
by VetSkinsFan
It's funny, my wife and son know that if the skins lose, to stay clear for at least an hour :lol: . Guess that can't qualify as a casual fan, can it :?: