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Just curious. Why is everyone from the national media to those of us on THN consider this to be a must win game? But most, if not all would consider the Eagles to be a "sleeping giant" or "underperforming" or "about to break out?" It seems to me that no matter what the Skins do or accomplish like go to the playoffs two of the last three years are worse off than the Eagles who've stunk since the 2004 Super Bowl and have missed the playoffs two of the last three years with the one year having J. Garcia as the QB.

This game is important but it is not must win. The Skins need to go 4-3 to end 10-6. This and the Giants game are the only tough one on the schedule - Philly here, @ Cincy, @ SF, @ Bmore (maybe tough, we'll see).

I am Mr. Negativity, I think the sky is falling or the world is coming to an end a lot but come one people - CP or not this is not a must win game.

I agree and I think this label is always applied way too early. I think by the time we hit 5-6 in 2005 we had already blown at least one "must-win" game.

cleg wrote:Just curious. Why is everyone from the national media to those of us on THN consider this to be a must win game? But most, if not all would consider the Eagles to be a "sleeping giant" or "underperforming" or "about to break out?" It seems to me that no matter what the Skins do or accomplish like go to the playoffs two of the last three years are worse off than the Eagles who've stunk since the 2004 Super Bowl and have missed the playoffs two of the last three years with the one year having J. Garcia as the QB.

This game is important but it is not must win. The Skins need to go 4-3 to end 10-6. This and the Giants game are the only tough one on the schedule - Philly here, @ Cincy, @ SF, @ Bmore (maybe tough, we'll see).

I am Mr. Negativity, I think the sky is falling or the world is coming to an end a lot but come one people - CP or not this is not a must win game.

I think in the years past, this wouldn't be a must-win game because the NFC was weak and you could get into the playoffs with an 8-8 or 9-7 record. The NFC is the beast this year and there are a ton of teams that are in the race for the wild-card spots:

Panthers 7-2
Bucs - 6-3
Skins - 6-3
Falcons - 6-3
Cowboys - 5-4
Eagles - 5-4
New Orleans - 4-5 (don't think they'll make it)

I think every game is a must-win from here on out and if the players don't think that way, why are they play ing the game. Also, this is Dallas week @ Fed Ex, of course it's a must win!

The race is too tight to be jerking around and losing games. If we want to be real about it, the race to win the NFC East is over unless the Giants completely screw up which prolly won't happen.

The NFC south is hot as crap right now and we're competing with them as well as our own tuff as nails division.

We can't afford to lose too many more games. Every game is a must win. And to be honest we're not THAT good to believe we can hop back on track. We need to keep the momentum.

We are in prime position for once, we can control our destiny. We don't need that 5-0 or we dont go BS anymore. We have the chance to not have to worry about what anyone else does.

spudstr04 wrote:

cleg wrote:Just curious. Why is everyone from the national media to those of us on THN consider this to be a must win game? But most, if not all would consider the Eagles to be a "sleeping giant" or "underperforming" or "about to break out?" It seems to me that no matter what the Skins do or accomplish like go to the playoffs two of the last three years are worse off than the Eagles who've stunk since the 2004 Super Bowl and have missed the playoffs two of the last three years with the one year having J. Garcia as the QB.

This game is important but it is not must win. The Skins need to go 4-3 to end 10-6. This and the Giants game are the only tough one on the schedule - Philly here, @ Cincy, @ SF, @ Bmore (maybe tough, we'll see).

I am Mr. Negativity, I think the sky is falling or the world is coming to an end a lot but come one people - CP or not this is not a must win game.

I think in the years past, this wouldn't be a must-win game because the NFC was weak and you could get into the playoffs with an 8-8 or 9-7 record. The NFC is the beast this year and there are a ton of teams that are in the race for the wild-card spots:

Panthers 7-2
Bucs - 6-3
Skins - 6-3
Falcons - 6-3
Cowboys - 5-4
Eagles - 5-4
New Orleans - 4-5 (don't think they'll make it)

I think every game is a must-win from here on out and if the players don't think that way, why are they play ing the game. Also, this is Dallas week @ Fed Ex, of course it's a must win!

If we beat the Eagles & the Cowboys, we'll all but knock them out and we hold the tie-breaker over the Saints. So basically we need to win this week, beat the teams we're supposed to (Bengals, Seahawks, and Ravens) and beat the Eagles and we are in. That's 5-2. Can we do it without Portis? IDK

Why can't we play in the NFC west??? It's not fair! LOL

The Cowboys are treating it as a 'must win.' Of course for them it almost is, which will make it even sweeter when we beat them. Everybody is back to talking about how great the Boyz' are going to be now that Romo is back. I am missing something? This team is a mess still, are they not? Why is it that people are so eager to hype this perpetually overrated team?

It's not a must win but it is a very big game all the same - fact is you always want to win the games in your division

we really should consider that this team was meant to have another off season of draft and possible free agents before we could consider this a good team again and here we are - 6-3

Our NFL ranks are #4 in rushing, #6 in Rush defense, #4 in total defense and #8 in scoring defense NOT BAD for a team that has a new coach and had a lot of question marks at various positions a few months ago

This is a huge game but only because it is the stupid pukes - we could lose to all the other teams but if we go 5-1 in our division this year we will have had a decent season - if we go 5-1 and 11-5 we will have had a great year



NOT a must win, no! but, a huge game this Sunday.

SkinsJock wrote:It's not a must win but it is a very big game all the same - fact is you always want to win the games in your division

we really should consider that this team was meant to have another off season of draft and possible free agents before we could consider this a good team again and here we are - 6-3

Our NFL ranks are #4 in rushing, #6 in Rush defense, #4 in total defense and #8 in scoring defense NOT BAD for a team that has a new coach and had a lot of question marks at various positions a few months ago

This is a huge game but only because it is the stupid pukes - we could lose to all the other teams but if we go 5-1 in our division this year we will have had a decent season - if we go 5-1 and 11-5 we will have had a great year



NOT a must win, no! but, a huge game this Sunday.

Not to be too negative about it: How are we going to score if both Portis and Moss dinged up? They'll be all over ey and neither ARE or Thomas will scare anybody, which means no room for Betts and co. to run, even if up to it.

I don't expect Kelly to contribute or strong performances from our running backs. If I were Zorn I'd use Davis and ey at the same time, play possession ball and hope the defense holds. We need to eat up the clock to keep Romo from getting in a groove.

In spite of the conventional wisdom, we'll be lucky to escape without another loss, and such a loss, will in fact be very damaging in regard to our playoff hopes.

spudstr04 wrote:

cleg wrote:Just curious. Why is everyone from the national media to those of us on THN consider this to be a must win game? But most, if not all would consider the Eagles to be a "sleeping giant" or "underperforming" or "about to break out?" It seems to me that no matter what the Skins do or accomplish like go to the playoffs two of the last three years are worse off than the Eagles who've stunk since the 2004 Super Bowl and have missed the playoffs two of the last three years with the one year having J. Garcia as the QB.

This game is important but it is not must win. The Skins need to go 4-3 to end 10-6. This and the Giants game are the only tough one on the schedule - Philly here, @ Cincy, @ SF, @ Bmore (maybe tough, we'll see).

I am Mr. Negativity, I think the sky is falling or the world is coming to an end a lot but come one people - CP or not this is not a must win game.

I think in the years past, this wouldn't be a must-win game because the NFC was weak and you could get into the playoffs with an 8-8 or 9-7 record. The NFC is the beast this year and there are a ton of teams that are in the race for the wild-card spots:

Panthers 7-2
Bucs - 6-3
Skins - 6-3
Falcons - 6-3
Cowboys - 5-4
Eagles - 5-4
New Orleans - 4-5 (don't think they'll make it)

I think every game is a must-win from here on out and if the players don't think that way, why are they play ing the game. Also, this is Dallas week @ Fed Ex, of course it's a must win!

That pretty much assumes we are not in the division title hunt. You should include the Giants at 8-1 in your list. And if we are to be in the division title hunt, this is a must win game.

I understand what everyone is saying but I probably was not clear enough - we have a better record than the Cowboys and Eagles whom both have tougher scheds but there is a sense that they are in better position than us to make the playoffs. I don't know what the Hell I'm trying to say. Go Redskins.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:If we want to be real about it, the race to win the NFC East is over unless the Giants completely screw up which prolly won't happen.

I couldn't disagree more. I think we are still very much in contention to take the NFC East crown. The toughest part of the G-strings schedule is still ahead of them (including our second game), and if they should falter against either the Pies on the road, or the Smeagols at home, we own the tie-breaker. In fact, I fully expect them to drop this weekend's match-up against the Crows, at least that's how I hognosticated it.

I'm not as confident that our schedule is all that easy... We have another 3 games against NFC East teams... yes, they are all at home, but none of them are going to lay down for these games... and we play B'more. Now, I hear the protests of "the crows suck", and, indeed, they do... but they have a kick ass defense, and the Redskins have yet to show they can play with a kick ass defense, and the last 4 games do nothing to boost confidence. Without Portis, a gimpy Moss... yeah... I'm feeling something...

Buckle up, boys... it's going to be a bumpy ride!

CLL, You said...

The race is too tight to be jerking around and losing games. If we want to be real about it, the race to win the NFC East is over unless the Giants completely screw up which prolly won't happen.

I beg to differ. Have you seen the Giants schedule? You actually think the Giants are going to win out? Here is their schedule:

Baltimore
Arizona
Washington
Philli
Dallas
Carolina
Minn

They just finished their first time around with the NFC East and will start their second round in 3 wks. Baltimore is not a push over on D as we saw when they played Pitt. Arizona has played teams close and is better then most give them credit for. They will have their hands full with Carolina and depending on how Minni is doing they might be tough to beat. Minni looked good the other night.

I'm betting the Giants lose a couple in there. Now obviously it would be nice for us to win out in order to keep pace with the Giants and wish and a prayer maybe surpass the Giants to take the NFC East and home field advantage.

I'm just pointing out that the Giants have one hell of a schedule coming up.

10-6 probably wont make it, 11-5 is pushing it. There are 5 teams in the NFC with the same or better record than us right now. If we lose this game there are 4 more teams to add to that list. It becomes a 9 teams with the same or better record than us. Yeah, we need this one.

I think this wouldnt be such a "must win" game if we didn't show our ASS on monday night...

I think every game is a must-win from here on out and if the players don't think that way, why are they play ing the game. Also, this is Dallas week @ Fed Ex, of course it's a must win!

I would hope the players would think every game is a must win to them but I think a must win game means if you lose you are out of the playoffs. If we lose Sunday (god, please don't let us lose!) and then won out, we would be 12-4. If a team that is 12-4 does not make the playoffs, I would be amazed. There are too many division games left for everyone in the NFC. If one team keeps winning, that means they are beating other temas in the division.

Note to all.



I hate Dallas.




Thanks for your time.

THIS IS A MUST WIN!

First, it is Dallas!
Second, after how PBurge punked us last game in they're house (Hines Field, Landover as they were calling it)

But most importantly we have to win to stay in the playoff race. The NFC is very good this year. Right now we would be a #6 seed.

1. New York Giants NCE 8 1 0
2. Carolina Panthers NCS 7 2
3. Arizona Cardinals NCW 6 3
4. Chicago Bears NCN 5 4
5. Atlanta Falcons NCS 6 3
6. Washington Redskins NCE 6 3

7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers NCS 6 3
8. Dallas Cowboys NCE 5 4
9. Minnesota Vikings NCN 5 4
10. Philadelphia Eagles NCE 5 4

As you see there are 4 other teams with in one game of us. If we are going to get into the playoffs we will have to go 11-5.

If we are going to win the division we will have to win a seven remaining games and the G strings would have to lose to us and two more teams. I don't see them dropping three games. There is a way that we could lose one more game (Baltimore or Cincy) and if the G strings lose to us and two other NFC teams. We could still win the division.

The fact that it's Dallas makes it a must win by itself, but more importantly the Redskins need to show that they are back on track.

In case it hasn't been pointed out enough, the Redskins have not played what you would call exceptional football here recently.

They squeaked out wins versus Detroit and Cleveland and were embarrased by Pittsburgh.

If they can beat Dallas, then maybe they've turned around their lackluster offense, but if they can't then it doesn't bode well for the rest of the season.

The offensive woes? Poor third down conversion percentage and an ugly red zone percentage. If they can't fix those problems then it doesn't matter if they make the playoffs because they won't stand a chance.

skinsfan#33 wrote:THIS IS A MUST WIN!

First, it is Dallas!
Second, after how PBurge punked us last game in they're house (Hines Field, Landover as they were calling it)

But most importantly we have to win to stay in the playoff race. The NFC is very good this year. Right now we would be a #6 seed.

1. New York Giants NCE 8 1 0
2. Carolina Panthers NCS 7 2
3. Arizona Cardinals NCW 6 3
4. Chicago Bears NCN 5 4
5. Atlanta Falcons NCS 6 3
6. Washington Redskins NCE 6 3

7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers NCS 6 3
8. Dallas Cowboys NCE 5 4
9. Minnesota Vikings NCN 5 4
10. Philadelphia Eagles NCE 5 4

As you see there are 4 other teams with in one game of us. If we are going to get into the playoffs we will have to go 11-5.

If we are going to win the division we will have to win a seven remaining games and the G strings would have to lose to us and two more teams. I don't see them dropping three games. There is a way that we could lose one more game (Baltimore or Cincy) and if the G strings lose to us and two other NFC teams. We could still win the division.

As I've pointed out twice in this thread already, the G-strings would only need lose 1 other game, if it was to the Pies or the Smeagols, for us to take the division.

JSPB22 wrote:As I've pointed out twice in this thread already, the G-strings would only need lose 1 other game, if it was to the Pies or the Smeagols, for us to take the division.

They are 8-1

We are 6-3

simple math will tell you they need to lose 2.

If they lose one game they will be 8-2 and if we win we'll be 7-3, still a game behind.

BnGhog wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:As I've pointed out twice in this thread already, the G-strings would only need lose 1 other game, if it was to the Pies or the Smeagols, for us to take the division.

They are 8-1

We are 6-3

simple math will tell you they need to lose 2.

If they lose one game they will be 8-2 and if we win we'll be 7-3, still a game behind.

One other game besides our second match-up.

JSPB22 wrote:

BnGhog wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:As I've pointed out twice in this thread already, the G-strings would only need lose 1 other game, if it was to the Pies or the Smeagols, for us to take the division.

They are 8-1

We are 6-3

simple math will tell you they need to lose 2.

If they lose one game they will be 8-2 and if we win we'll be 7-3, still a game behind.

One game besides our second match-up.

OOooh! Im slow sometimes.

JSPB22 wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:THIS IS A MUST WIN!

First, it is Dallas!
Second, after how PBurge punked us last game in they're house (Hines Field, Landover as they were calling it)

But most importantly we have to win to stay in the playoff race. The NFC is very good this year. Right now we would be a #6 seed.

1. New York Giants NCE 8 1 0
2. Carolina Panthers NCS 7 2
3. Arizona Cardinals NCW 6 3
4. Chicago Bears NCN 5 4
5. Atlanta Falcons NCS 6 3
6. Washington Redskins NCE 6 3

7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers NCS 6 3
8. Dallas Cowboys NCE 5 4
9. Minnesota Vikings NCN 5 4
10. Philadelphia Eagles NCE 5 4

As you see there are 4 other teams with in one game of us. If we are going to get into the playoffs we will have to go 11-5.

If we are going to win the division we will have to win a seven remaining games and the G strings would have to lose to us and two more teams. I don't see them dropping three games. There is a way that we could lose one more game (Baltimore or Cincy) and if the G strings lose to us and two other NFC teams. We could still win the division.

As I've pointed out twice in this thread already, the G-strings would only need lose 1 other game, if it was to the Pies or the Smeagols, for us to take the division.

True if we win every remaining game.