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Okay, I admit it, I want to go and suit up for this guy, even if it means playing for the 49ers. Talk about intensity:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80bf84eb

I'd rather play with 10 people and just get penalized all the way until we have to do something else rather than play with 11 when I know that right now that person is not sold out to be a part of this team. It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win.

Heck yeah, I loved that.


I bet Vernon has been acting like that for a couple of years and Mike couldn't do squat about it...until now. LOL

I love it too...but this isn't high school. Let's see if management backs him??

DEHog wrote:I love it too...but this isn't high school. Let's see if management backs him??

If they don't, then they deserve to be in the situation that they're in.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I bet Vernon has been acting like that for a couple of years and Mike couldn't do squat about it...until now. LOL

I never figured it out. . .was the play that "did it" that INT return for a touchdown by Seattle? It looked like a 49er chased him down and tackled him late in the end zone, but I couldn't tell from the replay who it was or whether there was a flag thrown.

DEHog wrote:I love it too...but this isn't high school. Let's see if management backs him??

Even if 49er management doesn't back him, some team's management in the NFL will, so I think he'll land a job.

I could see him becoming HC of a team but being almost completely hands-off when it comes to calling plays or running game plans. He could save his efforts for team chemistry, running practices, and giving game-day and half-time speeches.

no, the play that did it was, after making a catch Vernon Davis smacked an opposing player in the face mask and took a 15 yard penalty for it. It was a dumb penalty that cost them and then he acted non-chalant about it on the sideline.

oneman56 wrote:no, the play that did it was, after making a catch Vernon Davis smacked an opposing player in the face mask and took a 15 yard penalty for it. It was a dumb penalty that cost them and then he acted non-chalant about it on the sideline.

Oh. Well that'll do it.

LOL, that man got put on in-house suspension. LOL

I love it. I would love to see more coaches do that to players. See, in my opinion, the Players seem to have a lot of power and if Coaches see that this will work, more will do this. TO is next.

frankcal20 wrote:I love it. I would love to see more coaches do that to players. See, in my opinion, the Players seem to have a lot of power and if Coaches see that this will work, more will do this. TO is next.

TO may be next (and Chad Johnson right with him), but neither Wade Phillips or Marvin Lewis would ever do that.

Then again, while TO may complain and whine plenty, he doesn't often do stupid things on the field that draw big penalties in key situations. He usually just drops the big pass.

frankcal20 wrote:I love it. I would love to see more coaches do that to players. See, in my opinion, the Players seem to have a lot of power and if Coaches see that this will work, more will do this. TO is next.

I think we are starting to see a trend of coaches standing up to players more than they used to. See Giants and Plax, KC and Johnson, Zorn & CP, and there are others but I am too lazy to remember them now.

Mike Singletary is AWESOME! I am absolutely unsurprised by this. A player will give him attitude ONCE. Period.

I love Singletary. Some of the players these days need to be smacked in the face by reality. It's even better when the smack is delivered by the old school guys who know what it takes to be successful.

Should make a great Coors light ad!!

Countertrey wrote:Mike Singletary is AWESOME! I am absolutely unsurprised by this. A player will give him attitude ONCE. Period.

It was a thing of sheer beauty. I felt like cheering!

Man, I would willingly give a limb to have him replace Lovie. Anyone got a saw?

Why is everybody so happy with this? So, now he is the first coach in the NFL ever to banish a player from the game? For what? What did Vernon Davis do that was so bad? He slapped a face mask? Not a big deal. I've seen players do worse things that have almost cost them the game and they didn't even get tossed. There are great, and I mean great coaches that have won Superbowl's and never did anything like that. And some of these great coaches had great fire in them. I'm sorry but this was ridiculous and totally blown way out of proportion. If there was a problem with an individual it should have been dealt with in house. And then to throw him under the bus at the press conference. Remember Nolan did this and everybody was all over Nolan for throwing people under the bus at his press conference so because Nolan is not a hall of fame player its not okay for Nolan, but because Singletary is a hall of fame player and has fire in his its okay? Nonsense

jeremyroyce wrote:Nonsense

- From reading your post I doubt that you read the comments that Vernon made to Singletary after he was on the sidelines. When the coach approached him he told him to get basically get over it and that it wasn't a big deal, dismissing the coach.

- I think that you haven't heard the quotes from players who were happy that this happened and stated that Vernon's temper tantrums are numerous.


You wouldn't be calling it a big deal if ey did something in the middle of a comeback drive that eventually aided in our defeat.

- Look at how Raybach was treated in Dallas with his penalties....
- Look at how Kendall was treated by the fans after the incident with the Rams....

jeremyroyce wrote:Why is everybody so happy with this?

Is the little baby vernon going to cry and run home to his mommy? Or is he going to be a man and realize that he's been acting like a chump down in SanFRan and be a team player?

jeremyroyce wrote:Not a big deal. I've seen players do worse things that have almost cost them the game and they didn't even get tossed.

So that means everyone else should have low standards and zero accountability for their players?

Kids got away with crap that I'd never dream to do as a child. Would that excuse work with my father nope? Cus it's pretty lame.

jeremyroyce wrote:There are great, and I mean great coaches that have won Superbowl's and never did anything like that.

So he'll never win a superbowl cus he made Vernon cry like a baby? I'm sorry but I'd roll with a former HOF player before siding with a bunch of overly sensitive people.

jeremyroyce wrote:I'm sorry but this was ridiculous and totally blown way out of proportion.

Ridiculous is getting a 15 yard penalty when you're team is trying to make a comeback and fight for position midway thru the season.

jeremyroyce wrote:If there was a problem with an individual it should have been dealt with in house.

His message was to the players as a whole. He only spoke of Vernon when asked and may not have brought it up on his own.


Vernon got ejected for talking back to his head coach and basically dismissing his feelings in regards to what he did. He deserved to be benched.

Until I see you get irate over how Zorn went ballistic on Portis for a simple helmet issue, you're entire argument means nothing. Or how Zorn basically treated Brooks like a 13 year old after shanking a punt. The only difference is that he didn't send them to the showers and they were actually trying to help the team.

What Vernon did was put himself before his team. The fact that Singletary is a former player only adds credence to his argument. He's not asking his players to do anything he would not have done for the Bears when he was playing. I applaud him for what he did.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:Nonsense

- From reading your post I doubt that you read the comments that Vernon made to Singletary after he was on the sidelines. When the coach approached him he told him to get basically get over it and that it wasn't a big deal, dismissing the coach.

- I think that you haven't heard the quotes from players who were happy that this happened and stated that Vernon's temper tantrums are numerous.


You wouldn't be calling it a big deal if ey did something in the middle of a comeback drive that eventually aided in our defeat.

- Look at how Raybach was treated in Dallas with his penalties....
- Look at how Kendall was treated by the fans after the incident with the Rams....

jeremyroyce wrote:Why is everybody so happy with this?

Is the little baby vernon going to cry and run home to his mommy? Or is he going to be a man and realize that he's been acting like a chump down in SanFRan and be a team player?

jeremyroyce wrote:Not a big deal. I've seen players do worse things that have almost cost them the game and they didn't even get tossed.

So that means everyone else should have low standards and zero accountability for their players?

Kids got away with crap that I'd never dream to do as a child. Would that excuse work with my father nope? Cus it's pretty lame.

jeremyroyce wrote:There are great, and I mean great coaches that have won Superbowl's and never did anything like that.

So he'll never win a superbowl cus he made Vernon cry like a baby? I'm sorry but I'd roll with a former HOF player before siding with a bunch of overly sensitive people.

jeremyroyce wrote:I'm sorry but this was ridiculous and totally blown way out of proportion.

Ridiculous is getting a 15 yard penalty when you're team is trying to make a comeback and fight for position midway thru the season.

jeremyroyce wrote:If there was a problem with an individual it should have been dealt with in house.

His message was to the players as a whole. He only spoke of Vernon when asked and may not have brought it up on his own.


Vernon got ejected for talking back to his head coach and basically dismissing his feelings in regards to what he did. He deserved to be benched.

Until I see you get irate over how Zorn went ballistic on Portis for a simple helmet issue, you're entire argument means nothing. Or how Zorn basically treated Brooks like a 13 year old after shanking a punt. The only difference is that he didn't send them to the showers and they were actually trying to help the team.

Okay, like I said that if this is a situation that needs to be dealt with then deal with it in the locker room. NO it wasn't a big deal like I said. First the official should have never thrown the flag and secondly Singletary overreacted, By this time the game was already over with. Secondly if Singletary is trying to make a statement then do it with players that keep getting flagged for the same repeated things week in and week out, players dropping passes week in and week out, players turning the ball over week in and week out. Thirdly if Nolan had done this everybody would have been all over him in a heartbeat. Everybody was all over Nolan when he had that press conference when he threw his WHOLE TEAM under the bus when they lost against the Cowboys his first year but everybody is praising Singletary its a double standard. And then Nolan had several other press conferences where he threw several players under the bus and everybody was all over him. I didn't support Nolan when he did it and I'm not supporting Singletary when he did it. As far as ey is concerned deal with it in house. No I didn't see anything wrong with Zorn and what he did, Zorn hid first game didn't have a tirade and secondly what does this have to do with Zorn, I'm not talking about Zorn I'm talking about Singletary because he made a fool out of himself and now I know why nobody wanted him as a head coach.

I loved the way Singletary handled this. I hope he kicks Davis off the team. Davis is the biggest underachiever ever!

frankcal20 wrote:I love it. I would love to see more coaches do that to players. See, in my opinion, the Players seem to have a lot of power and if Coaches see that this will work, more will do this. TO is next.

There is a big difference between T.O. and Vernon Davis.

T.O. produces and is one of the best if not the best receivers of all time. Vernon Davis is a nobody who has done nothing. Davis has no kind of ammunition especially going against a Hall of fame coach.

Another thing , T.O. rarely gets penalties. Heck I cant remember him ever getting a penalty. He complains , but he only does it when the team is underperforming.

I never got why people hate T.O. The guy is an outstanding player, has a champions work ethic. He only complains when something is wrong and the team is not winning. I have no problems with that at all.

HEROHAMO wrote:He only complains when something is wrong and the team is not winning.

Does complaining that he didn't get the ball enough when he got 1/3 of the offensive touches, fit that description? Well, maybe the team not winning part.

I also remember him complaining when the Smeagols were in their consecutive NFC Championship games run.

Yeah, I think he's mostly been quiet in the past couple of years because he realizes that he's getting old and his chances at a championship keep slipping. The fear of never achieving the highest goal is enough to make even a man like TO stay in line a little better.