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Voting for Obama? You're Voting Against the Redskins.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:44 pm
by Bob 0119
(This is designed to be humorous, but I love to see Democrats get all riled up)

Most of you probably know of this myth already (as we are reminded every election year) but the outcome of the last home game beofre the presidential election has correctly predicted the outcome of the election

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Snopes.com wrote:The Outcome of Washington Redskins Games Correctly Picks Winner of Presidential Election Since 1936. (http://snopes.com/sports/football/election.asp)

Our desire to understand and assert some control over the world around us is often manifested by our attempts to find predictive signs that enable us to prognosticate events — even when there is no seeming connection between predictor and event. Sometimes one natural phenomenon supposedly forecasts another, as in the belief that a groundhog's seeing his shadow on February 2 portends another six weeks of winter. In other instances the linkage is between affairs of mankind, as in the superstition that the winner of football's Super Bowl augurs that year's stock market performance (or vice-versa).

A recent item of this ilk maintains that the results of the last game played at home by the NFL's Washington Redskins (a football team based in the national capital, Washington, D.C.) before the U.S. presidential elections has accurately foretold the winner of the last fifteen of those political contests, going back to 1944. If the Redskins win their last home game before the election, the party that occupies the White House continues to hold it; if the Redskins lose that last home game, the challenging party's candidate unseats the incumbent president. While we don't presume there is anything more than a random correlation between these factors, it is the case that the pattern has held true even longer than claimed, stretching back over seventeen presidential elections since 1936:

On 30 October 2000 the Washington Redskins lost a Monday night game at home to the Tennessee Titans, 27-21, presaging a loss for the incumbent Democratic party. Since President Bill Clinton had already been elected to the constitutionally-mandated maximum of two terms in office, the 7 November 2000 presidential election pitted Democratic Vice-President Al Gore against Republican Governor George W. Bush of Texas. In the closest (and most controversial) presidential election since 1876, Governor Bush gained the White House by the slim margin of five electoral votes, thereby fulfilling the Redskin prophecy.


On 27 October 1996 the Washington Redskins defeated the Indianapolis Colts at home, 31-16, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Sure enough, in the 5 November 1996 general election, Democratic President Bill Clinton won re-election over his Republican challenger, Senator Bob Dole of Kansas.


On 1 November 1992 the Washington Redskins lost to the New York Giants at home, 24-7, predicting a similar loss for the incumbent Republicans. As expected, in the 3 November 1992, Republican President George H. W. lost his re-election bid to Governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas.


On 6 November 1988 the Washington Redskins edged the New Orleans Saints at home, 27-24, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans. As President Ronald Reagan had already been elected twice, the 8 November 1988 election once again matched a sitting Vice-President, Republican George H. W. Bush, against a challenger, Democratic Governor Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts. True to form, Vice-President Bush emerged victorious.


On 5 November 1984 the Washington Redskins bested the Atlanta Falcons in a Monday night home game, 27-14, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans. The next day, President Ronald Reagan handily defeated his Democratic challenger, former Vice-President and Senator Walter F. Mondale of Minnesota, winning re-election with an electoral vote landslide.


On 2 November 1980 the Washington Redskins were trounced at home by the Minnesota Vikings, 39-14, predicting a loss for the incumbent Democrats. As expected, on 4 November 1980 President Jimmy Carter failed in his re-election bid, losing to his Republican opponent, former California governor Ronald Reagan.


On 31 October 1976 the Washington Redskins were spooked by the Dallas Cowboys in a Halloween Day home game, losing 20-7 and predicting a loss for the incumbent Republicans. Two days later, on 2 November 1976, Democratic Governor Jimmy Carter of Georgia unseated President Gerald Ford (who had been appointed Vice-President after the resignation of Spiro Agnew in 1973 and became chief executive in 1974 after President Richard Nixon also resigned).


On 22 October 1972 the Washington Redskins edged the Dallas Cowboys, 24-20, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans. The 7 November 1972 election resulted in the electoral vote landslide re-election of President Richard Nixon over the Democratic nominee, Senator George McGovern of South Dakota.


On 27 October 1968 the Washington Redskins lost a close game to the New York Giants, 13-10, predicting a loss for the incumbent Democrats. Since President Lyndon B. Johnson had announced several months earlier that he would not seek another term as president, the 1968 election was a contest between sitting Vice-President Hubert Humphrey and a former Vice-President, Republican Richard Nixon. In a mirror of the Redskins game, the Democrats lost in a close contest (the two candidates were separated by a slim 0.6% margin in the popular vote).


On 25 October 1964 the Washington Redskins beat the Chicago Bears, 27-20, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. As predicted, on 3 November 1964 President Lyndon Johnson (who had ascended to the White House after the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963) won a landslide victory over Republican Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona.


On 30 October 1960 the Washington Redskins were pasted at home by the Cleveland Browns, 31-10, predicting a loss for the incumbent Republicans. President Dwight D. Eisenhower had already served two terms, so Vice-President Richard Nixon took up the Republican mantle against Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts in the 8 November 1960 presidential election. Like the Redskins, the Republicans lost; unlike the Redskins, the Republicans made the contest a very close one. (Kennedy bested Nixon by a mere 0.2% margin in the popular vote.)


On 21 October 1956 the Washington Redskins soundly defeated the Cleveland Browns at home, 20-9, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans on 6 November 1956. And, for the second straight election, the Republicans and their standard-bearer, Dwight D. Eisenhower, prevailed over the Democratic nominee, Adlai Stevenson.


On 2 November 1952 the Washington Redskins lost a squeaker to the Pittsburgh Steelers at home, 24-23, predicting a similar loss for the incumbent Democrats. President Harry S. Truman declined to run for re-election (he had already served eight years), leaving the field open for former Illinois governor Adlai Stevenson to stand against the Republican candidate, General Dwight D. Eisenhower. The Democrats' loss on 4 November 1952 was not nearly as close as the Redskins' had been.


On 31 October 1948, the Washington Redskins walloped the Boston Yanks at home, 59-21, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Two days later, In one of the most stunning political upsets in U.S. history, President Harry S. Truman (who had assumed office in 1945 when President Franklin D. Roosevelt died shortly after beginning his fourth term) defeated his Republican challenger, Governor Thomas E. Dewey of New York.


On 5 November 1944, the Washington Redskins trimmed the Cleveland Rams at home, 14-10, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. And win the Democrats did, as President Franklin D. Roosevelt secured an unprecedented fourth term by defeating the Republican nominee, Thomas Dewey, on 7 November 1944.


On 3 November 1940, the Washington Redskins thrashed the Pittsburgh Pirates (forebears of today's Steelers team) at home, 37-10, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Likewise, Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt became the first (and only) three-term president as he thrashed Republican challenger Wendell Wilkie of New York (a former Democrat who had never held high elected office) on 5 November 1940.


Going back to 1936 puts us beyond the beginnings of the Washington Redskins, as that year the Redskins franchise was still playing in Boston. Nonetheless, their knack for foretelling the outcome of presidential elections was already in place. On 1 November 1936 the Boston Redskins downed the Chicago Cardinals at Fenway Park, 13-10, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Two days later, President Franklin D. Roosevelt won his re-election over Republican Governor Alf Landon of Kansas.

That is as far back as the streak goes. In 1932 the Washington Redskins were neither the Redskins nor a Washington team: they were the Boston Braves, and they played in Braves Field, which they shared with the National League baseball team of the same name. On 6 November 1932 they won at home against the Staten Island Stapletons, 19-6, a result that should have foretold a presidential victory for the incumbent Republican party. Neither the Redskins' team name nor their predictive powers were yet evident, however, as President Herbert Hoover lost to his Democratic challenger, Governor Franklin Delano Roosevelt of New York on 8 November 1932


What this story leaves out is in the 2004 race, Green Bay beat Washington signalling a victory for John Kerry...who lost.

The game in question this year is Pittsburgh vs. Washington.

Based on Obama's popularity, I'd say this theory calls for Pittsburgh to win.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:25 pm
by Irn-Bru
Yeah, I was hoping this would go away after 2004. When it comes to the election, I don't have a dog in the fight. So part of me hopes that both Washington and Obama win, if only because that's going to help kill this bit of trivia.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:37 pm
by Deadskins
Irn-Bru wrote:Yeah, I was hoping this would go away after 2004. When it comes to the election, I don't have a dog in the fight. So part of me hopes that both Washington and Obama win, if only because that's going to help kill this bit of trivia.

=D> =D> =D> =D>
On the other hand, maybe 2004 is further proof that the Bush people stole their second election. :twisted:

(For the record, I though we were robbed in 2000.) 8)

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:26 pm
by Skinsfan55
I would gladly watch the Redskins lose every game for the next ten years to have a Barack Obama presidency.

Country > football.

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:10 pm
by Cappster
The best scenario would be a Redskins win and an Obama AND a McCain loss. We, as a Country, have been robbed for hundreds of years. Down with the "powers" and the lobbyist who control Washington.

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:38 pm
by JeanPassepartout1974
Wonder if Obama likes the Skins?
Know he is a Bears fan, coming from Illinois!

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:27 pm
by DesertSkin
Skinsfan55 wrote:I would gladly watch the Redskins lose every game for the next ten years to have a Barack Obama presidency.

Country > football.


No matter what candidate, I would never exchange an 0-160 redskins record for the election of any presidential candidate. An 0-160 record would absolutely, positively mean a more miserable life than anything that any President could provide for me.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:46 pm
by Sir_Monk
Looks like they tweaked this "stat" to keep this dumb trend going.

The Redskins, in fact, are an accurate barometer for presidential elections. According to Steve Hirdt of the Elias Sports Bureau, who coined the term "Redskins Rule" in 2000, the following bromide has held true for the past 17 presidential elections: If the Redskins win their last home game prior to Election Day, the party that won the popular vote in the previous election wins the White House; if the Redskins lose, the party that lost the popular vote in the previous election wins.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3672799

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:09 pm
by Irn-Bru
DesertSkin wrote:No matter what candidate, I would never exchange an 0-160 redskins record for the election of any presidential candidate. An 0-160 record would absolutely, positively mean a more miserable life than anything that any President could provide for me.


Heroic!

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:10 pm
by Irn-Bru
Sir_Monk wrote:Looks like they tweaked this "stat" to keep this dumb trend going.

The Redskins, in fact, are an accurate barometer for presidential elections. According to Steve Hirdt of the Elias Sports Bureau, who coined the term "Redskins Rule" in 2000, the following bromide has held true for the past 17 presidential elections: If the Redskins win their last home game prior to Election Day, the party that won the popular vote in the previous election wins the White House; if the Redskins lose, the party that lost the popular vote in the previous election wins.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3672799


Good Lord. . .I can't wait until that gets twisted with clauses twice as long. Then at least we can laugh at people who bring it up.

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:43 am
by langleyparkjoe
Well, we did our part in losing last night, lets see if Obama wins now

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:03 pm
by Deadskins
langleyparkjoe wrote:Well, we did our part in losing last night, lets see if Obama wins now

It has been preordained. :roll:

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:06 am
by langleyparkjoe
true

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:20 am
by TeeterSalad
Redskins Rule predicts it right again!

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:23 pm
by Irn-Bru
Darn you, universe! :evil:

Will we ever live this down?

Redskin Rule

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:29 pm
by hogproud
Well, I'm sure you all have heard and read about the "Redskin Rule". It came into play again for this eleciton and once again it holds true.

Kind of a stupid coincidence but still very interesting.

For the past 71 years, the outcome of the Redskins LAST HOME GAME prior to the election dictates who will win. If the Redskins win, the party winning the popular vote in the previous election assumes power. If the Redskins lose, the party losing the popular vote in the previous election assumes power.

Weird.

Thoughts?

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:36 pm
by Irn-Bru
Hi hogproud. We've got a thread on this going here, and we'd like to keep the discussion there. Thanks!