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Winfield

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:21 pm
by SkiNoVA
im hearing from a friend that were reaching an agreement with antoine as we speak.. are we all so sure about springs, not sure of a source yet but apparently its from his 49ers fan forum friends... but it sounds kinda right from what hes tellin me

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:26 pm
by Bitter Smuggs
ESPN and the Post mention Springs, but there is nothing absolutely concrete, so it could be Winfield. I will be happy with either one. Springs is probably a better cover corner, but Winfield is good in run support. Also Springs has an injury history.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:29 pm
by SirSmizzy
Jets confidential is reprting the Winfield is in NY as we speak with his agents talking to the NYJ.

so i don't know who your "buddy" is but he's misinformed.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:29 pm
by ii7-V7
I doubt that we are going after Winfield. My only basis for this is that Williams hasn't said a word about him. You would think that if he wanted him, then we would have been more public about it like we were with Kearse. If G. W. doesn't want him...neither do I.

Chad

hmm

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:30 pm
by SkiNoVA
yeah any thing can happen.. ive been hearing so much stuff over the past hour.. "to going to the jets, randy to the dolphins" i think its official about springs now though, apparently

yes

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:47 pm
by SkiNoVA
apparently we rejected winfield cus he wanted something in the range of an 18m dollar signing bonus........ :roll:

Re: yes

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:53 pm
by SirSmizzy
SkiNoVA wrote:apparently we rejected winfield cus he wanted something in the range of an 18m dollar signing bonus........ :roll:


What are you talking about???


FA started today..he's in NY meeting with the jets.

How did he reject you offer?

well

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:57 pm
by SkiNoVA
someone told me we didnt even want to meet with him cus he wanted something around that much

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:00 pm
by Skinsfan55
"How did he reject you offer?"

What he means is we shied away from him because he wanted way too much... but I'm happy with Springs, I don't mind a vet to teach Smoot a thing or too.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:08 pm
by SirSmizzy
How reasonable is this?

The skins past him up becasue he wanted too much...but the Jets brought him in today and have made him their Key Fa.

see what i mean?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:11 pm
by SkiNoVA
not sure.. were crazy :twisted:

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:56 pm
by skins75
Smizzy what is the point you are trying to make...can you clarify?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:22 pm
by SirSmizzy
My point is...its the 1st day of free agency...and the player being mentioned is in another city with his agent ...

He's not in SF.

so unlewss the skins were tampering...he couldnt have lookd over an offer and turned it down...

C'mon...now because this guy made up his "buddy" or was silly enough to believe this guy on another forum without doing any reasearch what so ever...So he then proceeds to say "AWW shucks he wants to much money for the skins anyway"


thats just silly.

Plus when have you known the skins to shy away from big contracts to vet players?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:25 pm
by skinsfaninroanoke
Smiz - there is such a thing as a cell phone - Washington probably was on the phone at midnight and talked to the agent.... when they heard the price they backed off...

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:35 pm
by SirSmizzy
This is some guys opinion...someone on a message board...yeah im just gonna believe him.

Why do the skins need to be involved in every FA...everyday,no matter what...isn't it a little more possible..the skins didn't talk to him yet.

Because he is another city talking to another team you immediately think the skins must have passed on him...C'mon

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:38 pm
by skinsfaninroanoke
Sorry Antoine - didn't realize you went on the boards and posted here...

As you are saying - this is a person's opinion and you have a right to yours AS HE HAS A RIGHT TO HIS. Stop it Smiz.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:39 pm
by SirSmizzy
What are you talking about...what opinion?

The guy is in NY visiting with the Jets...thats a fact.


I tyhink "the skins passed on him" is an opinion....No?

why is this even a discussion?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:59 pm
by surferskin
don't be silly jets fan...you know if we wanted winfield we would have certainly got him over your jets. i guess we're giving you guys a break this year, maybe we'll steal him from you guys in 05 if he has a good year :nana:

hmm

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:12 pm
by SkiNoVA
i was just talkin about that because alot of people on this board liked winfield and talked of him quite a bit.. it wasnt some big plot to push a "hes a horrible player redskins dont need him" just tellin ppl things i heard about what a player we were interested in was going.. and obviously cus i heard that he wasnt gonna be a skin

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:35 pm
by SirSmizzy
surferskin wrote:don't be silly jets fan...you know if we wanted winfield we would have certainly got him over your jets. i guess we're giving you guys a break this year, maybe we'll steal him from you guys in 05 if he has a good year :nana:
Like Kearse?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:39 pm
by Champsturf
Smiz...I don't think the F.O. wanted Kearse as much as the fans wanted him (not me though.) I don't think (and this is all speculation) that they wanted to pay him a ton of money because of his injury problems. The Skins will get who the Skins want. They always do, it's just that in the past, most of their wants were bad ideas. That is until last year when we were willing to pay your players the $$ they deserved.

HTTR

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:54 pm
by SirSmizzy
I love how every player who sign elsewhere was "not wanted " by the skins...like your the top of the heap and the league gets you scraps...

Please...

Did you ever think maybe he didn't want to play for Washington...like bailey?

Or is that impossible to fathom?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:54 pm
by surferskin
Like Kearse?


no, more like coles...but you guys did a good job replacing him (curtis conway) ROTFALMAO

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:07 am
by BossHog
SirSmizzy wrote:I love how every player who sign elsewhere was "not wanted " by the skins...like your the top of the heap and the league gets you scraps...

Please...

Did you ever think maybe he didn't want to play for Washington...like bailey?

Or is that impossible to fathom?


I think you're right Smizz, and it's silly to think every FA is looking to come to the Skins. But I think that there are advantages to being aggressive... like your players not saying stuff like this:

"I just hope that our front office doesn't sit on their hands and get the last guy available," C Kevin Mawae wrote this week on his Web site. "We've done that in the past and it just doesn't work."


From this articleon Winfield.

That's harsh from a respected Jet starter.

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:23 am
by SirSmizzy
I read that this week...its true.

But then again its true when people say the skins should have been able to buy a Winning season by now with all that money they spent...or atleast put a better porduct on the field.

I guess it's really how you look at it.