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article doesn't make me feel all "warm and fuzzy" about the Taylor injury...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3607393

JCaptMorgan12 wrote:article doesn't make me feel all "warm and fuzzy" about the Taylor injury...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3607393

Quite freekish if you as me!

JCaptMorgan12 wrote:article doesn't make me feel all "warm and fuzzy" about the Taylor injury...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3607393

Headline says "injury to leg was career-threatening"... The operative word being "was".

Compartment Syndrome, however, is extremely serious, and can result in permanent nerve damage, muscle loss, and even loss of parts of the limb. It's bad news... sounds like they caught it early enough, and, fortunately, he'll heal quickly.

Remind me again...why did we trade for a 34 year old undersized DE? This move had trouble written all over it from the very beginning.


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Wahoo McDaniels wrote:Remind me again...why did we trade for a 34 year old undersized DE? This move had trouble written all over it from the very beginning.

This injury has nothing to do with his size nor with his age. You may or may not have a legitimate issue with the trade, but this particular injury proves nothing, as it is unrelated to your voiced concerns (age/size).

TRULY I DONT CARE, I am sick of #55 being bigger than this team, today's press conference w/Zorn was 90% about #55 and ITS DALLAS WEEK!

I take the Greg Blache approach, if your not here I don't even think about you, there are too many players that are going to get on that plane walk into texas stadium and go to WAR those players deserve our attention, questions, respect, etc etc.

When #55 flew down here with his 2yr 16 million dollar contract he recieved more media attention then the Skins did during a 5 game win streak into the playoffs last year, it was ridiculous, and now every owie he gets or everytime he passes gas its the #1 topic

#55 was brought here to help this team, at this point I'll take Phillip Daniels and or d. evans and chris wilson and rob jackson, and erasmus,
#55 has made some plays but he's also been abused and I DONT WANT to even get into that argument with you people the bottom line is this is a RIVALRY WEEK and the last thing I wanna hear about is intricate details of #55's owie.

I swear the reporters who cover this team are mentally retarded, their questions are out of touch with the interests of the fans, its frustrating, I wish Larry Michael would do more one on one interviews weekly because the beat reporters aren't getting to the heart of what we care about and this week that's HOW TO BEAT ttit.

Gibbs4Life wrote: #55 was brought here to help this team, at this point I'll take Phillip Daniels and or d. evans and chris wilson and rob jackson, and erasmus,
#55 has made some plays but he's also been abused and I DONT WANT to even get into that argument with you people the bottom line is this is a RIVALRY WEEK and the last thing I wanna hear about is intricate details of #55's owie.

i agree with the media coverage he got when he came here, and he has gotten... that attention would be the same anywhere... living in Philly, when they got TO, or Jevon Kearse, that is all the media talked about... the coverage TO got was way more than JT will ever get, but some of that is b/c TO brought it on himself... however, in this case, they are not just commenting on a minor injury, it's not like someone stepped on his foot and bruised his big toe... the ONLY reason this article was written, and the subject of his injury was brought up again, was b/c it could have cost him his career, or even a limb... regardless if he makes $16M or $300K, i am glad they wrote the article, helps to explain the reason he got the surgery before the biggest game of the year (to date)... as for having the other players in there, I am happy with JT's play so far, a sack, four deflected passes (tied for team lead, next closest lineman has 1), pressure on the QB... these are things that were not so prevelant on our D in years past... at the same time, i am not saying he has played at the same caliber as he has in the past either... but i don't think Daniels would be playing any better at this point...

daniels last year had 2.5 sacks, and 9 pass deflections, in a FULL year... JT is practically 1/2 way to both those totals in 3 games....

This injury is exactly one of the reasons people did not want him here. Age and injury concerns are the questions raised whenever u bring in an aging player.

That being said I still think we were in dyer need of a defensive end. I still think it was the right move. I am not sure how much we are paying Jason Taylor but I hope we didn't get ripped in the deal.

Remember Phillip Daniels blew out his knee. The Redskins needed another starter on the defensive line.

HEROHAMO wrote:This injury is exactly one of the reasons people did not want him here. Age and injury concerns are the questions raised whenever u bring in an aging player.

That being said I still think we were in dyer need of a defensive end. I still think it was the right move. I am not sure how much we are paying Jason Taylor but I hope we didn't get ripped in the deal.

Remember Phillip Daniels blew out his knee. The Redskins needed another starter on the defensive line.

Once again, this injury is unrelated to his age. He would have had this injury if he were 23. It is unrelated to his salary. He would have had this injury if he were making $5 K/year. And, all the wishing in the world WON'T MAKE IT SO.

HEROHAMO wrote:I still think we were in dyer need

I make a mean tie-dye. They should have hired me.

Countertrey wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:This injury is exactly one of the reasons people did not want him here. Age and injury concerns are the questions raised whenever u bring in an aging player.

That being said I still think we were in dyer need of a defensive end. I still think it was the right move. I am not sure how much we are paying Jason Taylor but I hope we didn't get ripped in the deal.

Remember Phillip Daniels blew out his knee. The Redskins needed another starter on the defensive line.

Once again, this injury is unrelated to his age. He would have had this injury if he were 23. It is unrelated to his salary. He would have had this injury if he were making $5 K/year. And, all the wishing in the world WON'T MAKE IT SO.

exactly, i am not sure why people keep blaming his age/size for this... it could happen in any sport at any time... i guess maybe he should have played the game with steel pants and socks on since he is so old and undersized, that would have prevented all of this...

Countertrey wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:This injury is exactly one of the reasons people did not want him here. Age and injury concerns are the questions raised whenever u bring in an aging player.

That being said I still think we were in dyer need of a defensive end. I still think it was the right move. I am not sure how much we are paying Jason Taylor but I hope we didn't get ripped in the deal.

Remember Phillip Daniels blew out his knee. The Redskins needed another starter on the defensive line.

Once again, this injury is unrelated to his age. He would have had this injury if he were 23. It is unrelated to his salary. He would have had this injury if he were making $5 K/year. And, all the wishing in the world WON'T MAKE IT SO.

No. Clearly, Vinny Cerrato should have known that a guy who has a long history of not playing games because of injury problems would have injury problems this year. I mean, he last missed a game in 1999, that's what, only 9 seasons ago?

Sheesh. I can't believe they didn't see this coming.

JSPB22 wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:I still think we were in dyer need

I make a mean tie-dye. They should have hired me.

Countertrey wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:This injury is exactly one of the reasons people did not want him here. Age and injury concerns are the questions raised whenever u bring in an aging player.

That being said I still think we were in dyer need of a defensive end. I still think it was the right move. I am not sure how much we are paying Jason Taylor but I hope we didn't get ripped in the deal.

Remember Phillip Daniels blew out his knee. The Redskins needed another starter on the defensive line.

Once again, this injury is unrelated to his age. He would have had this injury if he were 23. It is unrelated to his salary. He would have had this injury if he were making $5 K/year. And, all the wishing in the world WON'T MAKE IT SO.

The guy has already missed a game. He also has not been that good either.

Fact is he is getting older. Face the facts older people get injured easier. I know its hard to accept at your old age , but thats the reality. You cant beat father time.

HEROHAMO wrote:The guy has already missed a game. He also has not been that good either.

Fact is he is getting older. Face the facts older people get injured easier. I know its hard to accept at your old age , but thats the reality. You cant beat father time.

Ahhhhh, another case of a player magically starting to suck cus he's a Redskin?

1. The guy is being played out of position.

2. The pass-rush with only our front four guys has improved a decent amount and it shows in the number of turnovers we have thus far this season. We religously ranked at the bottom of the NFL in that category.

3. He's been just as effective as Andre Carter, so why is age a factor?

I'm not understanding why ya'll are gripin' so much.. the guy was hurt and played through it, isn't that what we all like to see? It turned into something serious and the guy had to get it taken care of. Ya'll are being over critical IMO but from what I've seen (unless you watched another J. Taylor from Miami) this dude gives 100% every game. It's week 4 and some of you are writing him off already. That's absolutely nuts! Some of you are questioning why we brought him here to begin with.. you mean to tell me a guy who has gotten so much sacks in his career and a pretty darn good DE isn't good enough for a last minute deal considering one of OUR better DE's goes down? So ya'll would rather them have gotten some unproven guy to step in and then we he messes up ya'll would slaughter him? Nice.. real nice my folks...

langleyparkjoe wrote:I'm not understanding why ya'll are gripin' so much.. the guy was hurt and played through it, isn't that what we all like to see? It turned into something serious and the guy had to get it taken care of. Ya'll are being over critical IMO but from what I've seen (unless you watched another J. Taylor from Miami) this dude gives 100% every game. It's week 4 and some of you are writing him off already. That's absolutely nuts! Some of you are questioning why we brought him here to begin with.. you mean to tell me a guy who has gotten so much sacks in his career and a pretty darn good DE isn't good enough for a last minute deal considering one of OUR better DE's goes down? So ya'll would rather them have gotten some unproven guy to step in and then we he messes up ya'll would slaughter him? Nice.. real nice my folks...

langleyparkjoe wrote:I'm not understanding why ya'll are gripin' so much.. the guy was hurt and played through it, isn't that what we all like to see? It turned into something serious and the guy had to get it taken care of. Ya'll are being over critical IMO but from what I've seen (unless you watched another J. Taylor from Miami) this dude gives 100% every game. It's week 4 and some of you are writing him off already. That's absolutely nuts! Some of you are questioning why we brought him here to begin with.. you mean to tell me a guy who has gotten so much sacks in his career and a pretty darn good DE isn't good enough for a last minute deal considering one of OUR better DE's goes down? So ya'll would rather them have gotten some unproven guy to step in and then we he messes up ya'll would slaughter him? Nice.. real nice my folks...

Well obviously, a guy his age was bound to be kicked in the calf by a teammate. I mean, once you break 30, its only a matter of time before you have to have you leg cut open to relieve pressure from a cleat to the calf. Stupid Vinny. [/sarcasm]

we have to play the people we have on sunday against our rivals..so thats how i,m going to take this whole deal.JT get better and come back soon meanwhile it is what it is.......

go skins

Someone please correct me if I am wrong but wasn't a DE one of the major needs per some of the experts on this site? I seem to remember many people complaining that the Redskins did not address the need in the off-season. Isn't he the sack leader for active players? Weren't there rave notices about him a couple weeks ago when he got his first sack as a Redskin?

This type of injury could have happened to any player regardles of age or size. Be glad that it was caught in time and there was no permanent damage.

JSPB22 wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:I still think we were in dyer need

I make a mean tie-dye. They should have hired me.

Even if they did, you would've been working in a whole 'nother compartment...

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:The guy has already missed a game. He also has not been that good either.

Fact is he is getting older. Face the facts older people get injured easier. I know its hard to accept at your old age , but thats the reality. You cant beat father time.

Ahhhhh, another case of a player magically starting to suck cus he's a Redskin?

1. The guy is being played out of position.

2. The pass-rush with only our front four guys has improved a decent amount and it shows in the number of turnovers we have thus far this season. We religously ranked at the bottom of the NFL in that category.

3. He's been just as effective as Andre Carter, so why is age a factor?

A younger Jason Taylor would not have been injured at this point. His history proves that. Now that he is getting older he will be more injury prone.

Like I said before I like having him here. DOnt try and tell me that age is not a factor. Age is always a factor.

Was Jason Taylor injured in his twenties? No! He rarely was injured.
Your body takes a beating over time especially in the NFL, NBA, MLB, whatever league your in. Age is a factor.

I still think we needed him and am glad we picked him up. Dont try and tell me that he is the same Jason Taylor that he was in his twenties because he is not.

HEROHAMO wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:The guy has already missed a game. He also has not been that good either.

Fact is he is getting older. Face the facts older people get injured easier. I know its hard to accept at your old age , but thats the reality. You cant beat father time.

Ahhhhh, another case of a player magically starting to suck cus he's a Redskin?

1. The guy is being played out of position.

2. The pass-rush with only our front four guys has improved a decent amount and it shows in the number of turnovers we have thus far this season. We religously ranked at the bottom of the NFL in that category.

3. He's been just as effective as Andre Carter, so why is age a factor?

When Jason Taylor was in his twentys he rarely missed time due to injury. Now that he is getting older bam injury in starting to happen. A common occurence in older people, animals , whatever you want to name. Older cars, people , bugs, whatever are more injury prone.

Ask any medical professional you want to.

I am a medical professional.

His injury is unrelated to his age.

There... asked and answered.

HEROHAMO wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:The guy has already missed a game. He also has not been that good either.

Fact is he is getting older. Face the facts older people get injured easier. I know its hard to accept at your old age , but thats the reality. You cant beat father time.

Ahhhhh, another case of a player magically starting to suck cus he's a Redskin?

1. The guy is being played out of position.

2. The pass-rush with only our front four guys has improved a decent amount and it shows in the number of turnovers we have thus far this season. We religously ranked at the bottom of the NFL in that category.

3. He's been just as effective as Andre Carter, so why is age a factor?

When Jason Taylor was in his twentys he rarely missed time due to injury. Now that he is getting older bam injury in starting to happen. A common occurence in older people, animals , whatever you want to name. Older cars, people , bugs, whatever are more injury prone.

Ask any medical professional you want to.

What is it that you can't understand about this injury not being associated with age? He got kicked in the calf, and blood filled the area. He would have gotten the same injury if he had been 15. Now, the time it takes him to heal may be a different story. That may be associated with his age, but the propensity for getting this particular injury has nothing to do with how old he is.

I don't believe age didn't contribute to his injury. I agree that its a freak injury, like getting rolled up in a pile during pre-season, but these things happen more often as you get older because you find yourself in awkward situations because you're not as physically superior as you were. Seriously, how many times this year can you say that JT has gotten real pressure on the QB. Maybe twice. The rest are bat downs after getting stoned at the line by the tackle.

I have been at each game watching him consistently and I marvel at how he can't get pressure on the QB. If he doesn't beat his man with the initial speed rush, he's done. He's forced to drop back and get his hands up.

This is not the Jason Taylor of old. As he drops back, he finds himself in more traffic with more interior lineman. He forced to extricate himself from awkward situations which will invariably lead to more injuries.

Everybody's right, he is the active sack leader, but in 2002, we had the active sack leader, who did absolutely nothing for us for 3-4 years except look out for himself and his sack record.

I believe JT is already looking forward to his second career and thus the reason he came to the Skins. If I was a betting man, I would say that JT was promised some sort of production deal from Snyder after his playing days were over to get him started in Hollywood as the next big action star.

Pure conjecture, but I wouldn't be surprised.