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Looking forward to seeing this guy in pre-season. He's already better than boonell. I was at the Titans/Skins pre-season game last year and when boonell trotted out there this fat guy behind me kept saying "Oh here he comes with his cane, old man needs his cane!" Well when Colt trots out there I think there may be some concern from opponents because of his shear competitiveness. Great prospect value in the 6th round.

Looking forward to seeing this guy play too. Any chance this guy is Danny Wuerffel part II?

Or Shuler II, since he chose the dreaded #5.

At least he has a cool first name.

"Colt". Sounds real Wild West to me.

I gotta admit I'm pretty pleased with the front office so far. They seem to be working rather diligently to get these guys signed. As a matter of fact, I can admit I've been pleased with this entire offseason. I really think they are making strides in the right direction.

I really like the addition of Brennan. Zorn will mold this guy and I'm also anxious to see him in action. As a matter of fact, I really like our group of QB's. I think Jason will have a breakout season, more than pleased with Collins backing him up, and if something crazy should happen over the next few years, Colt appears to be a decent option if needed. In this day in age, you gotta have more than one reliable QB. With Collins signed for a few years, Zorn should have plenty of time to work his magic with Colt. I could see Jason and Colt as the main guys here for many years to come.

riggofan wrote:Looking forward to seeing this guy play too. Any chance this guy is Danny Wuerffel part II?

Not at all, if Brennen fails it won't be noteworthy. Oh, you mean any chance he'll suck? A seventeenth round flyer? The odds are overwhelmingly so. But that's what you do with a twentyfourth round pick on a quarterback, you gamble. I'm not knocking picking him either, just being realistic.

From John Clayton...

Brennan, the third pick of the sixth round, is scheduled to make around $1.8 million over the four years of the contract, but the good news for Brennan and the team is the positive medical report he received. Last week, Brennan was cleared to practice and participate in camp, where he has a very good chance of becoming the No. 3 quarterback on the roster behind Jason Campbell and Todd Collins.

The former Hawaii quarterback had minor hip surgery to repair the labrum on April 8. Though some thought he might have to start camp on the physically unable to perform list, Brennan made a quick recovery. Through weight lifting, he is 220 pounds.

I think Brennan worked extremely hard to regain his health after his surgery. I like that he worked out and got his weight up to 220 lbs.

I hope this guy works out. While Collins is a great backup for now, he is a little on the aged side and probably will not play for more than a couple more years. That gives Brennen a chance to get some experience and education without any real pressure. If Brennen works out, our quarterback situtation will be set for many years to come. I think this was a worthwhile risk for the Redskins in drafting him.

aswas71788 wrote:I hope this guy works out. While Collins is a great backup for now, he is a little on the aged side and probably will not play for more than a couple more years. That gives Brennen a chance to get some experience and education without any real pressure. If Brennen works out, our quarterback situtation will be set for many years to come. I think this was a worthwhile risk for the Redskins in drafting him.

Risk? Virtually none.

Anything that we get out of Brennan is a bonus.

I am thrilled that he has clearly worked hard to get back into condition, and I'm impressed with his weight. Again... bonus! This is good stuff!

I agree that the Skins off-season has been very refreshing. i also agree that they shouldn't be criticized for taking a flyer pick on Brennan if he doesn't pan out. That said, I am of the opinion that he is not cut out to be an NFL QB. I know, I know, he threw for a trillion yards and a million TD's at Hawaii. That was a run-n-shoot offense that gave him a billion passing attempts and forced weaker, slower college defenses to spread out and play 6 DB's. There's a reason this works in college and not in the NFL, defensive speed. Colt's numbers were extremely inflated, he played exclusively out of the shotgun and rarely was asked to make reads to throw to a 3rd or 4th option and he has a quirky sidearmed delivery which will result in numerous passes batted by NFL DL's who average 6'3 tall. Basically, a run-n-shoot system QB with issues. (Can you say David Klinger or Andre Ware?) IF Zorn develops this kid into even a decent backup QB, I think we should all take our hats off to Zorn, because it will be an amazing accomplishment. I hope it works out.

fleetus wrote:I agree that the Skins off-season has been very refreshing. i also agree that they shouldn't be criticized for taking a flyer pick on Brennan if he doesn't pan out. That said, I am of the opinion that he is not cut out to be an NFL QB. I know, I know, he threw for a trillion yards and a million TD's at Hawaii. That was a run-n-shoot offense that gave him a billion passing attempts and forced weaker, slower college defenses to spread out and play 6 DB's. There's a reason this works in college and not in the NFL, defensive speed. Colt's numbers were extremely inflated, he played exclusively out of the shotgun and rarely was asked to make reads to throw to a 3rd or 4th option and he has a quirky sidearmed delivery which will result in numerous passes batted by NFL DL's who average 6'3 tall. Basically, a run-n-shoot system QB with issues. (Can you say David Klinger or Andre Ware?) IF Zorn develops this kid into even a decent backup QB, I think we should all take our hats off to Zorn, because it will be an amazing accomplishment. I hope it works out.

i know what you mean, just look at Jimmy Chang who had a gig with the eagles for a little while. He broke the record for most touchdown passes in a college career(granted he also broke the most interceptions too).

But in Colt's defense, no one under that offense produced more number than he did. and no one else led them to an undefeated regular season and a BCS bowl game. so i really dont think hes only a system QB.

ChocolateMilk wrote:

fleetus wrote:I agree that the Skins off-season has been very refreshing. i also agree that they shouldn't be criticized for taking a flyer pick on Brennan if he doesn't pan out. That said, I am of the opinion that he is not cut out to be an NFL QB. I know, I know, he threw for a trillion yards and a million TD's at Hawaii. That was a run-n-shoot offense that gave him a billion passing attempts and forced weaker, slower college defenses to spread out and play 6 DB's. There's a reason this works in college and not in the NFL, defensive speed. Colt's numbers were extremely inflated, he played exclusively out of the shotgun and rarely was asked to make reads to throw to a 3rd or 4th option and he has a quirky sidearmed delivery which will result in numerous passes batted by NFL DL's who average 6'3 tall. Basically, a run-n-shoot system QB with issues. (Can you say David Klinger or Andre Ware?) IF Zorn develops this kid into even a decent backup QB, I think we should all take our hats off to Zorn, because it will be an amazing accomplishment. I hope it works out.

i know what you mean, just look at Jimmy Chang who had a gig with the eagles for a little while. He broke the record for most touchdown passes in a college career(granted he also broke the most interceptions too).

But in Colt's defense, no one under that offense produced more number than he did. and no one else led them to an undefeated regular season and a BCS bowl game. so i really dont think hes only a system QB.

I f he is a system QB, I hope he fits the WCO and wins games.

He's definitely a long shot, but I like having athletic guys like him coming off the bench... they can usually use their feet to make things happen when things break down since they're not used to getting the reps...

Let's think about who Colt's receivers were, too. He spread the ball to 4 converted running backs, Ryan Grice-Mullen had 108 catches, Davone Bess had 106, Jason Rivers had 92 and CJ Hawthorne had 61. The first 3 went for over 1100 yards and 12 touchdowns each, and Hawthorne had 859 yards; hence the claim that he never had to look for a 3rd or 4th guy is bogus. That was in 2007.

In 2006, Colt spread the ball a little more evenly. Bess had 96 catches, Rivers 72, Nate Ilaoa (running back) with 67, Grice Mullen with 46, and 2 players with 54. That is 6 receivers with over 45 catches, 2 with over 1100 yards, and 4 with over 680. Again, spreading the ball around.

131 touchdowns to only 42 interceptions over his entire career, plus a completion percentage that averages out to 70.33333% is hard to ignore.

Yes multiple players had lots of receptions, that has nothing to do with whether Colt made reads. Lots of plays are designed to go to the 3rd and 4th receiver in any system, but especially in the run-n-shoot. The run-n-shoot system June Jones uses calls for quick passing plays out of the shotgun where the QB doesn't have to take snap from center, doesn't have to drop back, doesn't have to make reads because they spread the field and run ingenious routes where Colt knows exactly who he's throwing to before the play ever starts. it is a great stat padding system in college.

skinsfano28 wrote:Let's think about who Colt's receivers were, too. He spread the ball to 4 converted running backs, Ryan Grice-Mullen had 108 catches, Davone Bess had 106, Jason Rivers had 92 and CJ Hawthorne had 61. The first 3 went for over 1100 yards and 12 touchdowns each, and Hawthorne had 859 yards; hence the claim that he never had to look for a 3rd or 4th guy is bogus. That was in 2007.

In 2006, Colt spread the ball a little more evenly. Bess had 96 catches, Rivers 72, Nate Ilaoa (running back) with 67, Grice Mullen with 46, and 2 players with 54. That is 6 receivers with over 45 catches, 2 with over 1100 yards, and 4 with over 680. Again, spreading the ball around.

131 touchdowns to only 42 interceptions over his entire career, plus a completion percentage that averages out to 70.33333% is hard to ignore.

And, Brunell Broke the NFL record for most completions in a row. AND?

A mans completions and TD and INTs and yard are all relative. You can talk about the best QB in NFL Europe and how he had more TDs and yards than anyone ever. But that means squat when it comes to the NFL.

BnGhog wrote:

skinsfano28 wrote:Let's think about who Colt's receivers were, too. He spread the ball to 4 converted running backs, Ryan Grice-Mullen had 108 catches, Davone Bess had 106, Jason Rivers had 92 and CJ Hawthorne had 61. The first 3 went for over 1100 yards and 12 touchdowns each, and Hawthorne had 859 yards; hence the claim that he never had to look for a 3rd or 4th guy is bogus. That was in 2007.

In 2006, Colt spread the ball a little more evenly. Bess had 96 catches, Rivers 72, Nate Ilaoa (running back) with 67, Grice Mullen with 46, and 2 players with 54. That is 6 receivers with over 45 catches, 2 with over 1100 yards, and 4 with over 680. Again, spreading the ball around.

131 touchdowns to only 42 interceptions over his entire career, plus a completion percentage that averages out to 70.33333% is hard to ignore.

And, Brunell Broke the NFL record for most completions in a row. AND?

A mans completions and TD and INTs and yard are all relative. You can talk about the best QB in NFL Europe and how he had more TDs and yards than anyone ever. But that means squat when it comes to the NFL.

It's merely saying to not write the guy off. We all know that QBs are tougher to gauge than any other position.

Brennan will be the starter in a couple years.

HEROHAMO wrote:Brennan will be the starter in a couple years.

No, he won't