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I'm sorry but that is complete B S!!!

They took a man, a father and a superstars life! Hes never coming back!

The shooter should get it......u take a man's life, u dont deserve urs. Plain and simple.


R.I.P SEAN, YOU'LL BE MISSED FOREVER!

The shooter should get it......u take a man's life, u dont deserve urs. Plain and simple.

Read the article that you posted. The alleged shooter was a minor at the time of the crime and the Supreme Court held in 2005 that it is cruel and unusual punishment to sentence a minor to death. Hopefully all four of them receive life without parole.

It is probably easier to get a conviction on life in prison then it is to get a conviction on a death sentence. I just want to see justice served.

I just want to see justice served.

JMO, but justice can't be served without the death penalty.

Let me say that my feelings on this have nothing to do with ST... Murder is murder, and it matters not whom the victim is.

Hunte's lawyer Michael Hornung said he learned of the decision by prosecutors late Friday.

"They would have had to show it was premeditated," Hornung said. "I believe that it's appropriate that they waive the death penalty."

What ever happened to the perfectly reasonable concept that the deliberate commission of a felony while armed constitutes premeditation?

If I burglarize a home while carrying a hand gun, it indicates that I have both the potential to cause death, and the intent to use the weapon, should I feel threatened. That meets the criteria for premeditation in any rational mind.

If I knowingly participate in a burglary while knowing that one of the other participants is so armed, I am consenting to that act, and conceding the potential use of deadly force, again, meeting the criteria for premeditation. Since I am consenting to, participating in, and facilitating the crime, I should be equally liable for the consequences.

Facinating that the same DA's office which wanted to railroad ST for his excessive exhuberance in responding to crimes against him wants to cut his murderers this slack. Even if they end up not receiving the death penalty, they should have to be terrified of the possibility until the time the sentence is confirmed.

Any comfort this offers them is wrong.

The Prosecutor can't prove collusion or conspiracy to commit murder.
Aggravating factors are required to successfully seek the death penalty.

The Prosecutor cannot prove "Beyond A Reasonable Doubt" that the defendants entered the home with the intention of committing murder.

If the Prosecutor were to attempt to pursue the death penalty, one of several things could occur. The Judge could throw the case out due to the age of the alleged shooter, the Prosecutor could add the "lesser included charge" of first degree murder to the indictment, or the jury could acquit based upon lack of evidence of pre-meditation.

The Prosecution is pursuing the heaviest charge they can prove byond a reasonable doubt to twelve stupid people called a jury.

Personally, I would rather each defendant spend the next 50 years in prison being gang-raped and fending off real murderers, as opposed to the "gangsta wannabe's they are, then to have the easy way out, which is death.

Killing people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong makes about no sense. The only complaint I have is that our taxes pay to keep them alive.

I agree that life in prison (with all that it entails) is better than the death penalty as long as there is no possibility of parole. I'd hate to see even one of these wastes of sperm do 10-15 years, get paroled for good behavior, and be on the streets again before age 35.
That would be a travesty and would make a mockery of the criminal "justice" system.

In reality, though, I think that these guys have a pretty high chance of being assaulted and/or killed in prison if they go to a Florida pen without being segregated from the general population.

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The Prosecutor can't prove collusion or conspiracy to commit murder.
Aggravating factors are required to successfully seek the death penalty.

The Prosecutor cannot prove "Beyond A Reasonable Doubt" that the defendants entered the home with the intention of committing murder.

They don't have to show pre-mediation in this case. Florida has the felony murder rule, which allows for the death penalty in cases where a person is killed during the commission of a felony, which in this case was the burglary. Under the felony murder rule, not only can the actual killer be sentenced to death, but so can his co-conspirators, provided that they played a major rule in committing the underlying felony and acted with reckless indifference to human life. However, I think that this decision boils down to the fact that they can't seek the death penalty against the alleged shooter because he was 17 when this took place.

I live in South Florida and the story is all over the news here.

I'm not, in any way, against the death penalty, but does anyone think life in prison could be a worse punishment?

I'm ok with the death penalty, but yeah I kind of think life without the possibility of parole is a worse punishment. Those kids are going to have 50 or 60 years to think about what they did.

As long as there is no chance of parole, justice will have been served.

SkinsFreak wrote:I live in South Florida and the story is all over the news here.

I'm not, in any way, against the death penalty, but does anyone think life in prison could be a worse punishment?

I would have to agree, Life in prison exspecially at such a young age, is definatly worse. If this kid lives until 80, thats at least 60 Plus years in prison.

SkinsFreak wrote:
I'm not, in any way, against the death penalty, but does anyone think life in prison could be a worse punishment?

If they get life without parole, then yes. Life for these 4 is going to be brutal in a Florida pen. Like you, I've lived in South Florida, and Sean Taylor was a hero to many people down there. I would imagine that these guys will have a much rougher go of it in prison than most of the other inmates.

riggofan wrote:I'm ok with the death penalty, but yeah I kind of think life without the possibility of parole is a worse punishment. Those kids are going to have 50 or 60 years to think about what they did.

As long as there is no chance of parole, justice will have been served.

I agree. Either way, neither is going to bring Sean back. It just hurts to think that their punishment is going to be measured, even restricted, when Sean never got the same consideration.

Want justice? Have them spend a year of their sentence in a prison close to the DC area and see what happens to them.

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I'm sorry but that is complete B S!!!

They took a man, a father and a superstars life! Hes never coming back!

The shooter should get it......u take a man's life, u dont deserve urs. Plain and simple.


R.I.P SEAN, YOU'LL BE MISSED FOREVER!

Have not read the article but if the family wishes not to press capital punishment, then I think the courts will have to consider that too.....

If you carry a gun while committing a crime, to me, that is intent.... a few less scumbags in the world would be nice.

the fact is the courts are proceding under the rules of law AND the family has no issue with this according to the reports from Sharpstein - what any one else feels these guys deserve (me included) means very little - they will be getting what they deserve and there really is nothing that anyone can do that will make the loss of Sean any easier for anyone to handle.

they will be getting what they deserve

No, they won't. What they deserve is to die.

And, it's far more consideration than their victim got.

SkinsJock wrote:the fact is the courts are proceding under the rules of law AND the family has no issue with this according to the reports from Sharpstein - what any one else feels these guys deserve (me included) means very little - they will be getting what they deserve and there really is nothing that anyone can do that will make the loss of Sean any easier for anyone to handle.

true that......
I can't wait to play football in heaven with Sean. Heaven you say is a tall tale and a fable? We'll see you there.....

redskingush wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:I live in South Florida and the story is all over the news here.

I'm not, in any way, against the death penalty, but does anyone think life in prison could be a worse punishment?

I would have to agree, Life in prison exspecially at such a young age, is definatly worse. If this kid lives until 80, thats at least 60 Plus years in prison.

And a waste of our tax dollars.

Jake wrote:

redskingush wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:I live in South Florida and the story is all over the news here.

I'm not, in any way, against the death penalty, but does anyone think life in prison could be a worse punishment?

I would have to agree, Life in prison exspecially at such a young age, is definatly worse. If this kid lives until 80, thats at least 60 Plus years in prison.

And a waste of our tax dollars.

What tax dollars? There's no state tax in Florida.

GSPODS has it exactly right.

KennyKenn21 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3391604


I'm sorry but that is complete B S!!!

They took a man, a father and a superstars life! Hes never coming back!

The shooter should get it......u take a man's life, u dont deserve urs. Plain and simple.


R.I.P SEAN, YOU'LL BE MISSED FOREVER!

Looking at the crime u also have to look at intent, I think he saw a person with a knife and thought, crap. He shoot him at the leg, if he wanted to kill him he would have shoot him in the chest or head. I am not saying the ruling is right or wrong but u can't just look at it from ur point of view. U have to look at it from an unbiased point of view. Not saying law makers do, but one should look at the crime from an unbiased point of view.

riggofan wrote:I'm ok with the death penalty, but yeah I kind of think life without the possibility of parole is a worse punishment. Those kids are going to have 50 or 60 years to think about what they did.

As long as there is no chance of parole, justice will have been served.

The problem with that argument is the empirical fact that almost all killers still do everything they can to avoid the death penalty. Tim McVey was a very rare exception. So why do they do that if life in prison is worse?

BTW, I'm anti-death penalty. Nothing to do with the killers, I think it's better for society to not kill people. Then again you'd never catch me at a rally protesting ST's murderer's execution if it did happen. I'd just quietly oppose it.

Jake wrote:

redskingush wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:I live in South Florida and the story is all over the news here.

I'm not, in any way, against the death penalty, but does anyone think life in prison could be a worse punishment?

I would have to agree, Life in prison exspecially at such a young age, is definatly worse. If this kid lives until 80, thats at least 60 Plus years in prison.

And a waste of our tax dollars.

Again, I'm anti-death penalty. But the tax dollar argument doesn't work, it's more costly to put someone to death then keep them in prison the rest of their lives. Now granted this argument is used most often by the people who make it so. The anti-death penalty advocates do everything in their power to tie up executions then say we can't do it becaues of the COST!

But here's the rub. Despite their self fulfilling prophesy, the only way to change the cost driven by the endless appeals is to get the country overwhelmingly in favor of the death penalty, not just leaning towards it like they do now. Face it, that's not going to happen. It will ALWAYS be more costly to execute then keep in prison for that reason.

Countertrey wrote:

they will be getting what they deserve

No, they won't. What they deserve is to die.

And, it's far more consideration than their victim got.

True and true. But consider an alternative proposal.

The Federal government sets up a "death penalty" prison. States have the option to send prisoners there who get State "death penalties" and they pay for them there. The prison is in a remote location (desert, island, whatever). There is no TV, no papers, you get no mail, no Internet, no air conditioning. If you go there unless your conviction is later overturned, you never hear from your family again and they never hear from you until it's time to deliver your dead body back to them. Maybe we could even slip in the occasional water boarding. That would be cool! Only to collect intelligence of course.